SRC Member TayHongSiang Posted August 3, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted August 3, 2011 Yea will have to agree with lemon that dwarf angels are generally reef safe here my list of angels in my tank King Queen 2multicolor2flame Flameback Agri Regal However I read that queen and king will not be reef safe once they grow big i'm impressed.... u have 2 multicolour angels...this baby also not easy let's examine this angel together... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member TayHongSiang Posted August 3, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted August 3, 2011 how abt japs pygmy angels? watz the damage to our real estate like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member lcf425 Posted August 3, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted August 3, 2011 That fish alone can burn your estate in your bank =.= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators thomas_lim Posted August 3, 2011 Moderators Share Posted August 3, 2011 haha...yeah..."come and get me baby"... Lemon: actually i know nothing abt this angel...thomas was the culprit who introduced this fish to me and so, i became curious...and i agree that perhaps, i m fortunate or the fish is fortunate...haha...cheers mate. Wau... got "drag in" for nothing ar... Like i mentioned, it is a nice fish but very very difficult.. and you happen to get the right one at the right moment. Quote Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo77 Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Think the subject header is clear. Hopefully peppermint dwarf angel will not be suggested. No 100% safe and depends on ur lucky. Buyer will take the risk as it might be safe for initially but u nvr know when they turn to their mother nature habit. So far flame seems the safest for me. Coral beauty also but heard from others that they weren't so lucky. One thing for sure, lemon peel is not safe for me, ate 4 elegances. Lol. Quote Tank : 4 X 2 X 2 with low iron front panel and external overflow Skimmer : BK SM200 with waste collector Return Pumps : Red Dragon 6m3 and Ehiem 1262 FR : 2 X Deltec 509 & powered by AB2000 Nitrate Filter : Deltec NF 509 and tee off from AB2000 Calcium R'tor : Deltec PF 501 with RM secondary chamber Kalkwasser R'tor : Deltec KM500 Chiller : Pansonic 1 HP Compressor with 20m titanium Coil Wave Makers : 4 X Tunze 6055 with 7096 & Vortec MP40w Controller : GHL Profilux Lighting : ATI Powermodule 10 or 8 tubes Water Top-up : Water Top-Up tank powered by Tunze Osmolator External Monitor : American Pinpoint pH and Temp. Monitor for main tank and GHL Profilux Controller to measure temp, pH, Redox Ozonizer : Sander C50 UV : Corallife 6x Algae Scrubbler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnsfpl Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 in fact, given the same fish, reef safe in my tank does not mean reef safe in your tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member TayHongSiang Posted August 3, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted August 3, 2011 Wau... got "drag in" for nothing ar... oops! i think they r certainly not sponge safe...they love to eat spongebobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryz_ Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Think the subject header is clear. Hopefully peppermint dwarf angel will not be suggested. No 100% safe and depends on ur lucky. Buyer will take the risk as it might be safe for initially but u nvr know when they turn to their mother nature habit. So far flame seems the safest for me. Coral beauty also but heard from others that they weren't so lucky. One thing for sure, lemon peel is not safe for me, ate 4 elegances. Lol. Peppermint???? Dun tink will even have a chance to see it... Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo77 Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Yup. So think better stick to the subject header of dwarf and realistic advices. Multi bar, golden, venuatus, colini etc are shy and less readily feeder. Also the source and way caught. Think no one can claim expert as there are many factors to keep them alive. Anything less than 6 months to me is still under monitoring and think many of us encounter fishes just died without any tell tale sign. So far only know a handful experts knowing how to handle angels under different situation but still fate and luck do play their part. Quote Tank : 4 X 2 X 2 with low iron front panel and external overflow Skimmer : BK SM200 with waste collector Return Pumps : Red Dragon 6m3 and Ehiem 1262 FR : 2 X Deltec 509 & powered by AB2000 Nitrate Filter : Deltec NF 509 and tee off from AB2000 Calcium R'tor : Deltec PF 501 with RM secondary chamber Kalkwasser R'tor : Deltec KM500 Chiller : Pansonic 1 HP Compressor with 20m titanium Coil Wave Makers : 4 X Tunze 6055 with 7096 & Vortec MP40w Controller : GHL Profilux Lighting : ATI Powermodule 10 or 8 tubes Water Top-up : Water Top-Up tank powered by Tunze Osmolator External Monitor : American Pinpoint pH and Temp. Monitor for main tank and GHL Profilux Controller to measure temp, pH, Redox Ozonizer : Sander C50 UV : Corallife 6x Algae Scrubbler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yongshun Posted August 3, 2011 Author Share Posted August 3, 2011 thks for all the advices and comments bro...guess i might be getting a few dwarf angels such as flame, cherub, flameback, multi color and see how it goes Quote Main tank: 4.5 x 2.5 x 2Skimmer: Deltec AP701 Return pump: RD 6Chiller: Daikin compressor with Titanium coil Wavemaker: Jebao w-20, Maxspect Gyre xf150 Lighting: 8x54 ATI Sunpower Non-dimmableLinked tankMain tank: 2 x 1 x 2Return: Eheim 1260Lighting: AI Hydra 26 with controllerWavemaker: Tunze 6025My decommed 3 ft setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member lcf425 Posted August 3, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted August 3, 2011 Lol bro then will have the same dwarf angel as me le ^.^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member iskay Posted August 3, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted August 3, 2011 Peppermint???? Dun tink will even have a chance to see it... Pictures and video surely can see. Quote "Be formless... shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle; it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot; it becomes the teapot. Water can flow, or it can crash. Be water, my friend..." - Lei Siu Lung (Bruce Lee) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yongshun Posted August 3, 2011 Author Share Posted August 3, 2011 Pictures and video surely can see. haha marine is such a lethal passion tat im willing to be poisoned w/o finding ne antidote!! Quote Main tank: 4.5 x 2.5 x 2Skimmer: Deltec AP701 Return pump: RD 6Chiller: Daikin compressor with Titanium coil Wavemaker: Jebao w-20, Maxspect Gyre xf150 Lighting: 8x54 ATI Sunpower Non-dimmableLinked tankMain tank: 2 x 1 x 2Return: Eheim 1260Lighting: AI Hydra 26 with controllerWavemaker: Tunze 6025My decommed 3 ft setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yongshun Posted August 3, 2011 Author Share Posted August 3, 2011 Lol bro then will have the same dwarf angel as me le ^.^ haha Quote Main tank: 4.5 x 2.5 x 2Skimmer: Deltec AP701 Return pump: RD 6Chiller: Daikin compressor with Titanium coil Wavemaker: Jebao w-20, Maxspect Gyre xf150 Lighting: 8x54 ATI Sunpower Non-dimmableLinked tankMain tank: 2 x 1 x 2Return: Eheim 1260Lighting: AI Hydra 26 with controllerWavemaker: Tunze 6025My decommed 3 ft setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eniram Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 thks for all the advices and comments bro...guess i might be getting a few dwarf angels such as flame, cherub, flameback, multi color and see how it goes Hey guys am gonna sell my cherub (1.5"), Caribbean flame back (2.5"), flame angel x 2 (2"), passer angel (1.5") and a royal gamma (2") interested parties pls pm me. All feeding on pellets, mysis, dr g medicated food and algae on tank walls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digiman Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 thks for all the advices and comments bro...guess i might be getting a few dwarf angels such as flame, cherub, flameback, multi color and see how it goes For the list of dwarfs u've mentioned i've nothing to worry except for aggression. In fact adding any dwarfs u will always have to worry about aggression because any dwarf angel once established becomes aggressive to a certain extent, so u may wanna take note on that. Flameback and cherub are the most aggressive u can find. However flame and multicolor can be bullies too if they are established in a tank. So if u are to ask me i would say add all four in together if u can. They are quite common to find and u can take a few months to collect all four before releasing all at one go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Bulldozer Posted August 3, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted August 3, 2011 I had my fair share of Shock too for being an Pygmy Angel Lover. Interestingly, I had the most hard time to get a Coral Beauty to be stabalise in the tank. Finally a Fat One is swimming and eating like a pig in my tank now. And many other shocking experiences. I did not add in all the ANgels in one shot (I wish I have the Time and Chance). Nevertheless, the 'PIG'MY Angels that I am blessed with so far:- 2 x Flame 1 X Flame Back 1 X Bi Colour 1 X Key Hole 1 X Coral Beauty Acclimatizing Phase:- Multicolour Lemon Peel Actually it's pretty Normal to experience Chase by Resident Angels. Maybe they have places to hide, so All Well Ends Well. The Really Bad Experiences are due to my Damsels which were introduced at Phase 1 during setting up of my Tank. Even the Smallest Orange Colour Looking Damsel is having a Heart of a Big Bully. Really an A*S Hol*. Last week, I managed to catch out 6 of the Damsels using the Fish Trap. Now things are better. Returned all of them to my Marine Fish Shop. Those Damsels really gets on my nerve. I guess everyone has unique, funny or horrible experiences being a 'PIG'MY Angel Lover ya ........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yongshun Posted August 5, 2011 Author Share Posted August 5, 2011 For the list of dwarfs u've mentioned i've nothing to worry except for aggression. In fact adding any dwarfs u will always have to worry about aggression because any dwarf angel once established becomes aggressive to a certain extent, so u may wanna take note on that. Flameback and cherub are the most aggressive u can find. However flame and multicolor can be bullies too if they are established in a tank. So if u are to ask me i would say add all four in together if u can. They are quite common to find and u can take a few months to collect all four before releasing all at one go. thks for the advice bro, tink if can i will release all 2gether at the same time Quote Main tank: 4.5 x 2.5 x 2Skimmer: Deltec AP701 Return pump: RD 6Chiller: Daikin compressor with Titanium coil Wavemaker: Jebao w-20, Maxspect Gyre xf150 Lighting: 8x54 ATI Sunpower Non-dimmableLinked tankMain tank: 2 x 1 x 2Return: Eheim 1260Lighting: AI Hydra 26 with controllerWavemaker: Tunze 6025My decommed 3 ft setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yongshun Posted August 5, 2011 Author Share Posted August 5, 2011 I had my fair share of Shock too for being an Pygmy Angel Lover. Interestingly, I had the most hard time to get a Coral Beauty to be stabalise in the tank. Finally a Fat One is swimming and eating like a pig in my tank now. And many other shocking experiences. I did not add in all the ANgels in one shot (I wish I have the Time and Chance). Nevertheless, the 'PIG'MY Angels that I am blessed with so far:- 2 x Flame 1 X Flame Back 1 X Bi Colour 1 X Key Hole 1 X Coral Beauty Acclimatizing Phase:- Multicolour Lemon Peel Actually it's pretty Normal to experience Chase by Resident Angels. Maybe they have places to hide, so All Well Ends Well. The Really Bad Experiences are due to my Damsels which were introduced at Phase 1 during setting up of my Tank. Even the Smallest Orange Colour Looking Damsel is having a Heart of a Big Bully. Really an A*S Hol*. Last week, I managed to catch out 6 of the Damsels using the Fish Trap. Now things are better. Returned all of them to my Marine Fish Shop. Those Damsels really gets on my nerve. I guess everyone has unique, funny or horrible experiences being a 'PIG'MY Angel Lover ya ........ thks for sharing...hopefully mine turns out well Quote Main tank: 4.5 x 2.5 x 2Skimmer: Deltec AP701 Return pump: RD 6Chiller: Daikin compressor with Titanium coil Wavemaker: Jebao w-20, Maxspect Gyre xf150 Lighting: 8x54 ATI Sunpower Non-dimmableLinked tankMain tank: 2 x 1 x 2Return: Eheim 1260Lighting: AI Hydra 26 with controllerWavemaker: Tunze 6025My decommed 3 ft setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Bulldozer Posted August 5, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted August 5, 2011 thks for sharing...hopefully mine turns out well All the very Best to you ya ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member peacemaker Posted August 5, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted August 5, 2011 The problem I have with dwarf angels is keeping them alive... they can be feeding and doing well for months, then die the next moment. Question: Do they need to go through de-worming or some form of treatment upon purchase? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zico Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Witnessed my Flame Angel nipping on some "half dead" zoas closed buds. Am wondering if they are - nipping them coz the zoa polyps are dying ? ... or.... - their nippings caused the zoas polyps to die ? Will try to feed more food each day and see if more zoa polyps gets attacked. Anyone here with troublesome flame angel in a reef tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member vinccc2009 Posted May 29, 2012 SRC Member Share Posted May 29, 2012 Maybe you can try to shift your zoa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zico Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Yes, I have taken the 2 assaulted zoas frags out and transfered them to the refugium to recuperate. So far the healthy zoas are not under any attack. Fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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