stmomo Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Hi Guys, I am planning to put my Deep Sand Bed in the Sump tank rather then in the main tank. Any one can advice what would be the recommended size? My main tank is 422, My sump tank is L32" by W18" by H16". Intend to use 10" by 18" for a 6" DSB. Ok bo ha? Many thanks.... Quote Main Tank: 4x2x2 with 5 FT Piano Finishing Cabinet Sump Tank: 32" by 18" by 16" Arctica Chiller 1/4 HP DBE 200 Vortech MP40wES Wavemaker Skimz 201 Skimmer DE Lighting Retro Fit 6x54W T5 tubes Eheim 1264 Chiller and Return Pump American Pinpoint PH and Temperature Monitor KDK 15WUD Chiller Compartment Fan Tunze Osmolator ATO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xaine Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 That's already a pretty decent sized DSB, I've seen some with even smaller ones. However at the end of the day you will still need to test your nitrate to ensure it is capable to sustaining your bioload. Different tanks and feeding regiment would have different requirement, there's no one-size fits all Just got to test it out to be sure. Quote FOWLR Tank : 48"x24"x30" Sump: 36"x18"x20" Return Pump : Rio 32HF Skimmer: Reef Octopus DNW-110 Lighting: 150W MH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member tunicate Posted May 24, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted May 24, 2011 Hi bro, Below is the info when I inquire about DSB. Hope it contributes to your planning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stmomo Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share Posted May 24, 2011 That's already a pretty decent sized DSB, I've seen some with even smaller ones. However at the end of the day you will still need to test your nitrate to ensure it is capable to sustaining your bioload. Different tanks and feeding regiment would have different requirement, there's no one-size fits all Just got to test it out to be sure. Thanks for the advice bro..... will take note on that.... Quote Main Tank: 4x2x2 with 5 FT Piano Finishing Cabinet Sump Tank: 32" by 18" by 16" Arctica Chiller 1/4 HP DBE 200 Vortech MP40wES Wavemaker Skimz 201 Skimmer DE Lighting Retro Fit 6x54W T5 tubes Eheim 1264 Chiller and Return Pump American Pinpoint PH and Temperature Monitor KDK 15WUD Chiller Compartment Fan Tunze Osmolator ATO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stmomo Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share Posted May 24, 2011 Hi bro, Below is the info when I inquire about DSB. Hope it contributes to your planning. Thanks for sharing bro..... it seems like advice from Bro Terryz my DSB size might not be sufficient leh.... what abt if i maintain the same DSB for my sump and i increase my main tank live sand from 2 inches to 3 inches high? ok bo? The reason i don wan it in the main tank is becos is a bit ugly leh... and i don wan to make my cabinet take up too much of the tank bottom just to cover the ugly live sand.... Quote Main Tank: 4x2x2 with 5 FT Piano Finishing Cabinet Sump Tank: 32" by 18" by 16" Arctica Chiller 1/4 HP DBE 200 Vortech MP40wES Wavemaker Skimz 201 Skimmer DE Lighting Retro Fit 6x54W T5 tubes Eheim 1264 Chiller and Return Pump American Pinpoint PH and Temperature Monitor KDK 15WUD Chiller Compartment Fan Tunze Osmolator ATO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo77 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Bro, any reason u decided to go for dsb? Do read up more. For effective dsb, it must be rather big and if not wrong there must be a gap in-between the sand for the bacteria. So far, not many ppl have success and seldom see ppl using this. They rather go bare. Anyway do share yr findings and setup process. Quote Tank : 4 X 2 X 2 with low iron front panel and external overflow Skimmer : BK SM200 with waste collector Return Pumps : Red Dragon 6m3 and Ehiem 1262 FR : 2 X Deltec 509 & powered by AB2000 Nitrate Filter : Deltec NF 509 and tee off from AB2000 Calcium R'tor : Deltec PF 501 with RM secondary chamber Kalkwasser R'tor : Deltec KM500 Chiller : Pansonic 1 HP Compressor with 20m titanium Coil Wave Makers : 4 X Tunze 6055 with 7096 & Vortec MP40w Controller : GHL Profilux Lighting : ATI Powermodule 10 or 8 tubes Water Top-up : Water Top-Up tank powered by Tunze Osmolator External Monitor : American Pinpoint pH and Temp. Monitor for main tank and GHL Profilux Controller to measure temp, pH, Redox Ozonizer : Sander C50 UV : Corallife 6x Algae Scrubbler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stmomo Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share Posted May 24, 2011 Bro, any reason u decided to go for dsb? Do read up more. For effective dsb, it must be rather big and if not wrong there must be a gap in-between the sand for the bacteria. So far, not many ppl have success and seldom see ppl using this. They rather go bare. Anyway do share yr findings and setup process. Hi Bro...... only reason is to control the NO3. Will try out and update if it really works..... thanks bro..... Quote Main Tank: 4x2x2 with 5 FT Piano Finishing Cabinet Sump Tank: 32" by 18" by 16" Arctica Chiller 1/4 HP DBE 200 Vortech MP40wES Wavemaker Skimz 201 Skimmer DE Lighting Retro Fit 6x54W T5 tubes Eheim 1264 Chiller and Return Pump American Pinpoint PH and Temperature Monitor KDK 15WUD Chiller Compartment Fan Tunze Osmolator ATO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member tunicate Posted May 24, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted May 24, 2011 You can try out DSB without a permanent setup. Find a plastic tub of suitable depth & size as your DSB refugium. Cut 2 holes for balkhead fittings on 1 side of the tub. 1 for inlet from a pump in your sump, the other for overflow back into sump. Hence, you need to sit the tub higher than the sump for the overflow to work. This modular refugium can easily be dismantled without impact to the rest of your tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puppet Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 You can try out DSB without a permanent setup. Find a plastic tub of suitable depth & size as your DSB refugium. Cut 2 holes for balkhead fittings on 1 side of the tub. 1 for inlet from a pump in your sump, the other for overflow back into sump. Hence, you need to sit the tub higher than the sump for the overflow to work. This modular refugium can easily be dismantled without impact to the rest of your tank. Agree with tunicate I think this is call a remote DSB system whereby you can disengage it anytime easily without the need to scoop all the sand out etc when things goes wrong. Some aquarist mentioned that after a long period of time, DSB could crash the system, so it might be good to have a remote system whereby u can change the DSB after ~ 6 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stmomo Posted May 25, 2011 Author Share Posted May 25, 2011 You can try out DSB without a permanent setup. Find a plastic tub of suitable depth & size as your DSB refugium. Cut 2 holes for balkhead fittings on 1 side of the tub. 1 for inlet from a pump in your sump, the other for overflow back into sump. Hence, you need to sit the tub higher than the sump for the overflow to work. This modular refugium can easily be dismantled without impact to the rest of your tank. Thanks for the advice bro..... I would need to check whether i hv the space for a external remote DSB...... Quote Main Tank: 4x2x2 with 5 FT Piano Finishing Cabinet Sump Tank: 32" by 18" by 16" Arctica Chiller 1/4 HP DBE 200 Vortech MP40wES Wavemaker Skimz 201 Skimmer DE Lighting Retro Fit 6x54W T5 tubes Eheim 1264 Chiller and Return Pump American Pinpoint PH and Temperature Monitor KDK 15WUD Chiller Compartment Fan Tunze Osmolator ATO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stmomo Posted May 25, 2011 Author Share Posted May 25, 2011 Agree with tunicate I think this is call a remote DSB system whereby you can disengage it anytime easily without the need to scoop all the sand out etc when things goes wrong. Some aquarist mentioned that after a long period of time, DSB could crash the system, so it might be good to have a remote system whereby u can change the DSB after ~ 6 years? Really?? Thou DSB will crash the system only if you go and disturb the sand bed? You mean it crashed by itself without any reason? or any bros here can share share their good and bad experience with DSB both in the main tank or in the sump tank? Thanks man..... Quote Main Tank: 4x2x2 with 5 FT Piano Finishing Cabinet Sump Tank: 32" by 18" by 16" Arctica Chiller 1/4 HP DBE 200 Vortech MP40wES Wavemaker Skimz 201 Skimmer DE Lighting Retro Fit 6x54W T5 tubes Eheim 1264 Chiller and Return Pump American Pinpoint PH and Temperature Monitor KDK 15WUD Chiller Compartment Fan Tunze Osmolator ATO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member sun2000 Posted May 27, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted May 27, 2011 Really?? Thou DSB will crash the system only if you go and disturb the sand bed? You mean it crashed by itself without any reason? or any bros here can share share their good and bad experience with DSB both in the main tank or in the sump tank? Thanks man..... There is a sticky in the SPS section on DSB...maybe you should see some of the comments on DSB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member kenny1111 Posted May 27, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted May 27, 2011 alot of comment is that DSB is not good. Can i get some advise too. i now have a space of 12" x 8" 8" in my sump. Should i fill it with DSB or Full of live rock to remove the NO3 and PO4? main tank is 2ft x 1ft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member tunicate Posted May 27, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted May 27, 2011 You can always try chaeto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member kenny1111 Posted May 27, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted May 27, 2011 have, but always cover by red slim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member tunicate Posted May 28, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted May 28, 2011 have, but always cover by red slim. Probably due to insufficient flow, & chaeto not tumbling. But as long as it's controlling your NO3 level, you've meet your objective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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