SRC Member dryDiver Posted April 30, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted April 30, 2011 i just bought flame angel. 1st day was ok. 2nd day was staring at rock. today, this morning was hyper breathing n died soon after. wonder what caused it? stomach is nice n fat, no wounds, no broken tail/fin. wonder if it got stung by pali? n died from that. Tell tale sign is this morning 1 patch of my zoa/pali was closed. btw, the other flame n bi color still around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Reefer yikai Posted April 30, 2011 Senior Reefer Share Posted April 30, 2011 not possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeteng Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Don't think so! Could be ill when u purchase. Could be bad luck for u! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 i just bought flame angel. 1st day was ok. 2nd day was staring at rock. today, this morning was hyper breathing n died soon after. wonder what caused it? stomach is nice n fat, no wounds, no broken tail/fin. wonder if it got stung by pali? n died from that. Tell tale sign is this morning 1 patch of my zoa/pali was closed. btw, the other flame n bi color still around. Vanuatu is shipping a great deal of them. We sell them as well but animal friendly collected making them more expensive , but our customers don,t mind.. Most Flame Angels are SHIPPED from Hawaii but NOT COLLECTED at Hawaii. Main source ( still) Marshall islands.. O K Davies only shipper there.... Produced by the hundreds with " ill" collecting practice.. all "juiced".. Other source ( more orange in the center) Christmas Island. These are much bigger in size too but less nice. So I do believe your Flame was poor already when you bought it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member dryDiver Posted September 23, 2011 Author SRC Member Share Posted September 23, 2011 Vanuatu is shipping a great deal of them. We sell them as well but animal friendly collected making them more expensive , but our customers don,t mind.. Most Flame Angels are SHIPPED from Hawaii but NOT COLLECTED at Hawaii. Main source ( still) Marshall islands.. O K Davies only shipper there.... Produced by the hundreds with " ill" collecting practice.. all "juiced".. Other source ( more orange in the center) Christmas Island. These are much bigger in size too but less nice. So I do believe your Flame was poor already when you bought it. hmm...thats interesting. if we got a reputable collector overseas then we got a better chance of getting pretty fish, n also better chance of survical. just to side track alittle, this morning another newly bought 6line wrasse died. this is my 5th one that died after buying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 May I learn what you refer to as a sixline wrasse. we have several fishes ( wrasses) go by that name.... I guess you mean P. hexataenia?? Hexataenia is a US$ 0,40 fish ,so don,t expect to much of it I would say.... Perhaps you should avoid a fish like that or get your stuff elsewhere?? If we talk the same species , they come in from Bali. Bali nowadays uses MORE CYANIDE than the Philippines in their "Glorious days ".... They only name it "Tuba"which is a mixture of Cyanide and squeezed Sea Cucumber.. far more toxic and harmful... Within a few years Bali will be wiped out on fish and only invertebrates left... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Ketchup Posted September 23, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted September 23, 2011 Six Line Wrasse (Pseudocheilinus hexataenia)... It's actually quite hardy fish.. you may want to check if it;s feeding and also been in the LFS for a while. Do note that the six line wrasse can be quite aggressive despite its small size U prob need at least 3-4 ft tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member dryDiver Posted September 23, 2011 Author SRC Member Share Posted September 23, 2011 Yes that's the name hexa.... It cost S$5 here, In the morning I find them dead on the sand bed. Body in perfect condition. As Johan mentioned it could be cynide poisoning. But from what I heard cynide does leave some red marks near the stomach?? Incidentally all my past 5 dead 6line wrasse are from the same LFS, time to change LFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Yes that's the name hexa.... It cost S$5 here, In the morning I find them dead on the sand bed. Body in perfect condition. As Johan mentioned it could be cynide poisoning. But from what I heard cynide does leave some red marks near the stomach?? Incidentally all my past 5 dead 6line wrasse are from the same LFS, time to change LFS Cyanide does NOT leave ANY external evidence behind!!! That is utterly C and B!!!! Cyanide leaves internal superficial burn marks , resembling what happens if you drink your coffee right from the kettle.. It is only the ill transport and stocking that does the lethal harm. This said over using Cyanide in common and "well administered" if one can use that expression here. However just JUICE sprayed into the water or "gunned" into the water ( Bali) is a matter of overdoses and will lead to a certain death..... Safe to use is Quinaldine and Hypnodil.... No harm to the fish nor reef.... Common in practice in Florida Cure for Cyanide collected fish is extreme easy.. Sodium thiosulphate.. Better known as Chlorine remover AKA Aqua-safe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member sunny03 Posted September 23, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted September 23, 2011 Cure for Cyanide collected fish is extreme easy.. Sodium thiosulphate.. Better known as Chlorine remover AKA Aqua-safe... this is usefull .. dont know that chlorine remover can remove cyanide.. anymore fish curing secret to share... Quote Selling big game fishing equipment. Stella 20k / 17k .. made in Japan jigging blue rose / kabuzu popping rod... pm for prices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Cure for Cyanide collected fish is extreme easy.. Sodium thiosulphate.. Better known as Chlorine remover AKA Aqua-safe... this is usefull .. dont know that chlorine remover can remove cyanide.. anymore fish curing secret to share... So far this is the only cure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naivete Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 So far this is the only cure! Since in in the Philippines, would you recommend QT fish with sodium thiosulfate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Since in in the Philippines, would you recommend QT fish with sodium thiosulfate? Well, might just work,than again depends on when the fish was collected.. should be done right after collection to get the max out of it... Just went this morning to Cartemar..... no need to write here as we are most likely the only "pinoy" here on the forum... A true shame that this still goes on after so many decades... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naivete Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Well, might just work,than again depends on when the fish was collected.. should be done right after collection to get the max out of it... Just went this morning to Cartemar..... no need to write here as we are most likely the only "pinoy" here on the forum... A true shame that this still goes on after so many decades... I guess its the lack of education of the hobbyist here in our country. Most of the people i know into marine more or less started in cartimar where they got caught by the beauty of nemo and dory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member dryDiver Posted September 26, 2011 Author SRC Member Share Posted September 26, 2011 it would be interesting to know the dosage for mixing sodium thiosulphate, how many days? etc, success rate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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