macdreamy Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Hi guys looking for some sound advices here i've a tank i used for planted setup wonder if i could utilise the tank for a marine setup the tank is 2ft x 1.5 x 1.5 crystal glass 5mm thks in advance for any advices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member tansh Posted March 17, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted March 17, 2011 Hi guys looking for some sound advices here i've a tank i used for planted setup wonder if i could utilise the tank for a marine setup the tank is 2ft x 1.5 x 1.5 crystal glass 5mm thks in advance for any advices I suggest go for min 8mm thickness for the size of tank.For long run worry that ur tank might give way or leaking. Quote My decomm 4ft FOWLR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo77 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Bro, is possible but selection of equipment is important and less loading to ur tank. Quote Tank : 4 X 2 X 2 with low iron front panel and external overflow Skimmer : BK SM200 with waste collector Return Pumps : Red Dragon 6m3 and Ehiem 1262 FR : 2 X Deltec 509 & powered by AB2000 Nitrate Filter : Deltec NF 509 and tee off from AB2000 Calcium R'tor : Deltec PF 501 with RM secondary chamber Kalkwasser R'tor : Deltec KM500 Chiller : Pansonic 1 HP Compressor with 20m titanium Coil Wave Makers : 4 X Tunze 6055 with 7096 & Vortec MP40w Controller : GHL Profilux Lighting : ATI Powermodule 10 or 8 tubes Water Top-up : Water Top-Up tank powered by Tunze Osmolator External Monitor : American Pinpoint pH and Temp. Monitor for main tank and GHL Profilux Controller to measure temp, pH, Redox Ozonizer : Sander C50 UV : Corallife 6x Algae Scrubbler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macdreamy Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share Posted March 17, 2011 Bro, is possible but selection of equipment is important and less loading to ur tank. thks for the advices mind if you can elaborate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo77 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Bro, yr tank will be using canister as filter? As salt water is denser,, hence pressure on the tank will be higher. That is why ppl advice u to go for at least 8 mm as 5 mm looks and feels fragile. To minimize the pressure, yr rock and equipment should go for light and not too much pressure to yr tank. Hope this help. Quote Tank : 4 X 2 X 2 with low iron front panel and external overflow Skimmer : BK SM200 with waste collector Return Pumps : Red Dragon 6m3 and Ehiem 1262 FR : 2 X Deltec 509 & powered by AB2000 Nitrate Filter : Deltec NF 509 and tee off from AB2000 Calcium R'tor : Deltec PF 501 with RM secondary chamber Kalkwasser R'tor : Deltec KM500 Chiller : Pansonic 1 HP Compressor with 20m titanium Coil Wave Makers : 4 X Tunze 6055 with 7096 & Vortec MP40w Controller : GHL Profilux Lighting : ATI Powermodule 10 or 8 tubes Water Top-up : Water Top-Up tank powered by Tunze Osmolator External Monitor : American Pinpoint pH and Temp. Monitor for main tank and GHL Profilux Controller to measure temp, pH, Redox Ozonizer : Sander C50 UV : Corallife 6x Algae Scrubbler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member DUCADOS Posted March 17, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted March 17, 2011 Up for all the above bro who contributed... Yes... Thinkness of glass in reefing is very important! Tank is a heavy thing so safety is always the priority... Quote Some1 doesn't 1 2 do anything find an excuse,some1 1 2 do something find a mean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macdreamy Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share Posted March 17, 2011 Icic Planning to use a overflow siphon to sump with existing tank as it'll be quite impossible to drill holes in existing tank I do have an option of going for 10mm tank but asahi glass so the clarity wise will be compromised Any opinions on the overflow siphon system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo77 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 I presume u are talking abt overflow box. Think u can chk out reef octopus or aquamarin for their ready made overflow system. As this is hang on, pressure on yr glass. Quote Tank : 4 X 2 X 2 with low iron front panel and external overflow Skimmer : BK SM200 with waste collector Return Pumps : Red Dragon 6m3 and Ehiem 1262 FR : 2 X Deltec 509 & powered by AB2000 Nitrate Filter : Deltec NF 509 and tee off from AB2000 Calcium R'tor : Deltec PF 501 with RM secondary chamber Kalkwasser R'tor : Deltec KM500 Chiller : Pansonic 1 HP Compressor with 20m titanium Coil Wave Makers : 4 X Tunze 6055 with 7096 & Vortec MP40w Controller : GHL Profilux Lighting : ATI Powermodule 10 or 8 tubes Water Top-up : Water Top-Up tank powered by Tunze Osmolator External Monitor : American Pinpoint pH and Temp. Monitor for main tank and GHL Profilux Controller to measure temp, pH, Redox Ozonizer : Sander C50 UV : Corallife 6x Algae Scrubbler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xaine Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 5mm is still possible, just have to take caution. Does your tank have bracing ? It does help, if there is. As Solo77 has mentioned, having a hangon overflow box does add stress at the mounting point. One other means is to build your own PVC overflow pipe, using the pipe, you can find support in some resting points, thus reducing the pressure on the tank walls. Quote FOWLR Tank : 48"x24"x30" Sump: 36"x18"x20" Return Pump : Rio 32HF Skimmer: Reef Octopus DNW-110 Lighting: 150W MH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member tunicate Posted March 17, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted March 17, 2011 Bro linus, It's important to ask yourself: "Will I be able to sleep well at night knowing it may crack open dumping 127L of salt water over the floor?" I've said this, & I'm going to say it again. My cousin converted his arowana tank to marine & had it cracked open in the middle of the night a few weeks later. He lost the tank, live stocks, water, carpet. Suffice to say, no one in the family slept that night. What don't you sell your current tank in a fresh water aquarium forum, and do this from a clean slate. Then you can really plan this out the way you want it. No need to compromise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macdreamy Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share Posted March 17, 2011 I'm grateful to all advices received Think I probably will head for the 10mm asahi glass The thought of tank cracking and falling apart is really disturbing But the overflow box is the next best thing to not drill a hole in glass I ever thought of going the easy way, using canister and no skimmer But realizing if things were done in the proper way, results will show So sump is the plans along with a skimmer As this is a virgin trip to the marine world, there are some concerns in water sources and other elements of water along the journey Having said this much, I appreciate all input of useful information guiding me in my journey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo77 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Bro, a skimmer is not a must but most will recommend. If u are keepin little or no fishes, then u will have very low bio load and can go skimmer-less with regular water chge. A sump is good but not necessary. Bro hammy used to keep a 2ft cube tank without sump and was successful in keeping spses. He uses Deltec mce600 as skimmer. He adopted sandless bed and siphon out waste regular. Therefore, u can consider than. There is always risk in keeping marine and one got to prepare for it. What we can do is to try our best to build in measures but thing still fails at times. If u need tour guide to see see look look setup, can arrange. Lol. Quote Tank : 4 X 2 X 2 with low iron front panel and external overflow Skimmer : BK SM200 with waste collector Return Pumps : Red Dragon 6m3 and Ehiem 1262 FR : 2 X Deltec 509 & powered by AB2000 Nitrate Filter : Deltec NF 509 and tee off from AB2000 Calcium R'tor : Deltec PF 501 with RM secondary chamber Kalkwasser R'tor : Deltec KM500 Chiller : Pansonic 1 HP Compressor with 20m titanium Coil Wave Makers : 4 X Tunze 6055 with 7096 & Vortec MP40w Controller : GHL Profilux Lighting : ATI Powermodule 10 or 8 tubes Water Top-up : Water Top-Up tank powered by Tunze Osmolator External Monitor : American Pinpoint pH and Temp. Monitor for main tank and GHL Profilux Controller to measure temp, pH, Redox Ozonizer : Sander C50 UV : Corallife 6x Algae Scrubbler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macdreamy Posted March 18, 2011 Author Share Posted March 18, 2011 Thks solo77 Hope the chiller is serving you well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo77 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Hehe. Tested once. Hasn't connect, planning this week. Got an external controller with external probe to control it so that can set higher temp and not limit to just 27. How's ur planning so far, need help, can contact me and will try to assist. Quote Tank : 4 X 2 X 2 with low iron front panel and external overflow Skimmer : BK SM200 with waste collector Return Pumps : Red Dragon 6m3 and Ehiem 1262 FR : 2 X Deltec 509 & powered by AB2000 Nitrate Filter : Deltec NF 509 and tee off from AB2000 Calcium R'tor : Deltec PF 501 with RM secondary chamber Kalkwasser R'tor : Deltec KM500 Chiller : Pansonic 1 HP Compressor with 20m titanium Coil Wave Makers : 4 X Tunze 6055 with 7096 & Vortec MP40w Controller : GHL Profilux Lighting : ATI Powermodule 10 or 8 tubes Water Top-up : Water Top-Up tank powered by Tunze Osmolator External Monitor : American Pinpoint pH and Temp. Monitor for main tank and GHL Profilux Controller to measure temp, pH, Redox Ozonizer : Sander C50 UV : Corallife 6x Algae Scrubbler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member BFG Posted March 18, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted March 18, 2011 5mm definitely cannot support. When you fill it with saltwater, you will see that the glass pane will bow. Just a matter of time for either the silicone will give way or the glass pane will develop a crack. The final situation in this scenario is a wet floor. Best thing to do now is to do more research and saved up while doing so. This is not a race and there are no finishing point. Myself had saved up for 2 years before getting into this hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macdreamy Posted March 18, 2011 Author Share Posted March 18, 2011 bro solo77, still in the mist of drawing up a plan for all the necessities, no hurry on my end been patient since my planted days have given me lessons bro BFG, im going for a 10mm new tank for new setup now that i know 5mm cant support its not really about saving but pondering about the direction this setup is going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member BFG Posted March 19, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted March 19, 2011 For everything else, safety is of the utmost importance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member straydum Posted March 19, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted March 19, 2011 5mm definitely cannot support. When you fill it with saltwater, you will see that the glass pane will bow. Just a matter of time for either the silicone will give way or the glass pane will develop a crack. The final situation in this scenario is a wet floor. Best thing to do now is to do more research and saved up while doing so. This is not a race and there are no finishing point. Myself had saved up for 2 years before getting into this hobby. my tank is made of 5mm crystal glass and it hasn't caused any problems. the tank maker, n30 also gives a 5 year warranty and base on their works in marine tanks i do trust them. having said that my tank is only a 60x30x36cm tank. larger tanks would definitely need thicker glass of more than 5mm. as for the original question on freshwater to salt, i did the same thing when i started. took down my freshwater tank, added a sump, changed the lights, added a skimmer etc. if i could go back then and redo it i would have went for a larger sump straight away to house more equipments that will eventually be necessary. having a good skimmer at the start saves one the process and money of upgrading later on. extra space in the sump that may seem excessive at first is always better then not having any space later on. the increased total volume is also not a bad thing. as for the overflow, i would personally have more ease with a drilled overflow then a overflow box/pipe based on my experience with them failing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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