kentkent Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 Hi guys my uncle gave me a two ft tank n a overhead filter. As i relatively new to marine fish keeping , i would like try keeping some marine fishes but not sure how to go about. i would like to have 2 clownfishs, a yellow tang and a hippo tang in my 2 ft tang. i want they rather small. but can you guys help me out wat must i do to get ready the tank for this fishes and what must i do and where do i buy all the required stuff. your help would be greatly appreciate. plus anyone know of any marine shop in jurong ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Tanzy Posted January 8, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted January 8, 2003 First of all, great that you are doing some research and asking questions before you start. Secondly, welcome to SRC! 2 feet is not the best size for a marine tank. It's preferable to get something that has an overflow and sump. It will make life easier later. Understanding that cost might be involved, you can start up with a 2 feet but you will need to keep up with the water changes and you will run out of space quickly. I'm not sure how to set up a good 2 feet cause the last time I did one it was with UGF(undergravel filter) which I later converted to DSB(deep sand bed). I'm quite sure some of the more experience nano-tankers can advise you. Tangs are not a good idea for your tank. They will require a lot of swimming space and can grow quite large. Minimum 3' and even that is pushing it. What must you do to get the tank ready? Ask the uncle what was previously in that tank and if any medication (e.g. copper) was used in it. Anyway, now is a bad time to start a tank cause the market is short of live rocks. Best is to wait until after April to start and read up as much as possible in the mean time. The closest LFS I know to Jurong will be Marine Life at Hong Leong. Quote Warning: Heavy handed moderator in operation. Threads and post are liable to be deleted or moved without prior notification. Moderator's prerogative will be enforced. Any grievances or complains should be addressed to The Administrator. http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/uploads/post-36-1073276974.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Sinn Posted January 9, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted January 9, 2003 its not only possible to keep marine fishes in 2 feet tanks but some corals as well... if yer intrested in keeping corals... be prepared to spend $$ on the equipments (can spend on equipment while waiting for live stock to come).... some nice nano reefs can be found here u can do a search in this forum for further details of the equipment needed hope that helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member dodo Posted January 9, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted January 9, 2003 it is best to discard your overhead filter away if you really want a tank with healthy looking fishes/corals...have to spend abit on other equipments i thk you need to invest in a good Eheim canister filter, Light(FL/PL) Hood, fans. Then u need to buy sand and salt and start cycling your tank ASAP...i guess u have to spend at least abt $700-$800 to get this 2ft tank started. u got to read more b4 starting a marine tank...read more on the steps needed to start and equipment needed...read fr tis forum or buy some books to read btw...maybe your 2ft tank glass thickness cannot hold too much LR...hehehe...better dun put too much LR inside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member wolfie Posted January 9, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted January 9, 2003 kentkent... I'm a proud owner of a yet to be completed 2ft tank... It's my "testing" tank and didn't hve much budget and no research done when I first setup the tank. Haiz.... I trusted the LFS too much... Aniwae, Mummy & Daddy say might b shifting soon so when I shift, I'll get a 4-6 ft tank... I agree wif wat dodo hve to say and go get urself a gd canister (got mine @ abt 80 bucks frm Petmart). Wif regards to the "too much LR prob"... You can DIY ur very own LR Stacker... Quite fun... As for ur sand, 1 10kg packet shld b enuff for a "alrite" DSB. Light wise, I'm DIY-ing mine currently. Oh, if you hve the time but not the $, go borrow books frm library... There tis "The Q&A Manual of The Marine Aquarium by Nick Dakin"... Shld ans most of you qns... Anithing you PM me or wat loh Enjoy tis hobby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member newdamsel Posted January 9, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted January 9, 2003 I agree with dodo on the price range.. since you have not started off... try your very best to have another 2ft sump (Which is another tank linked to your current one). If you DIY, the amount of money spent is about the same as buying a canister filter BUT you'll increase water volume by double, increase space for housing of equipment. Do a search on sump and you'll get plentiful of info~! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentkent Posted January 9, 2003 Author Share Posted January 9, 2003 thank you all so much for the advise you had given me meanwhile i bought the salt and sand for my tank. i going to get a canister filter and skimmer from Petshopboys aquarium next week saving up some money, meanwhile i will read up more on the aquarium needs, the shops at hong leong gave me lotsa of advice too. plus can someone show me a canister filter for 2 ft tanks??? thanks a million this forum is so beginner friendly!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member dodo Posted January 9, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted January 9, 2003 kentkent, wea is Petshopboys? at Far East Plaza? if tis is the case, better dun go there. if you know wea is hong leong...y not buy from there....I believe Henry(Hong Leong) can give u a better price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentkent Posted January 9, 2003 Author Share Posted January 9, 2003 yup dodo petshopboys is at far east i find the boss of the shop quite friendly. yup henry gave me lotsa of advice. anyway where can i get a good and cheap canister filter n a protein skimmer?? i think i need that before i can start my water running right? Regards Kent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member dodo Posted January 9, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted January 9, 2003 u can try Petmart...wea u live? if u are comfortable with Petshopboys...by all means go ahead...but I personally dun go there...been there once and notice they are not specialised in marine y du u go back HL(Henry)...since he gave you so much advises if you have transport...try Pasir Ris lor...can get real cheap stuff there...esp Macro protein skimmer...but they may not carry good canister filter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Monkey Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 Sorry. But what's petshopboys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Creetin Posted January 9, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted January 9, 2003 Dodo, for canister filter u should try Petmart at Serangoon, its beside Rainbow and the canisters are very good priced. For protein skimmer you could probably look for there too - can try Orca (not sure they have or not, but normally sells at about $20-22). The Orca can be quite big so if u dun like it, u can go for the Sanders one which is slimmer. Sealife at Balestier has Sanders skimmer but they cost more than the Orca. As these are counter current skimmers, u would need an airpump (with 2 airholes) to run it. I tink some of the guys also mention last time that the airpump must be powerful one. I got my 4-way ocean free air pump from Petmart, only $20, cheap cheap... Quote Get Paid To Read Emails. Free To Join Now! http://www.emailcashpro.com/?r=okdk11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member TanGo Posted January 9, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted January 9, 2003 try an ehiem 2215, which I am using for my 2ft Will be slightly more expensive but it's gonna be worth it.. Right now, the most important thing is to be PATIENT! dunn rush into things.. Placement of tank at home also need consideration.. Because it will affect the tank temperature unless you choose to have a chiller.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Tang Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 Sorry. But what's petshopboys? My favourite europop band!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Tang Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 I would like to highlight that Petshopboys know nothing about marine fishkeeping. I have heard so many horror stories about the advice they give and their lack of knowledge. You are better off going to a specialized marine LFS (in some ways). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Monkey Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 Oh!! petshopboys Ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member CKS Posted January 9, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted January 9, 2003 If its only fishes u want.. go for berlin style filter setup For 2ft tank .. ORCA protein skimmer + 7-10kg of liverock + good circulation is good enough probably cheaper than buying canister filter... thats how i started .. works well get a overflow tank + sump if u intend to convert to reef tank in future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentkent Posted January 9, 2003 Author Share Posted January 9, 2003 erm CKS can u enlighten me what is a berlin style filter setup?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Tanzy Posted January 9, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted January 9, 2003 erm CKS can u enlighten me what is a berlin style filter setup?? No bioballs, protein skimmer, no substrate bare bottom tank with a lot of liverock. Quote Warning: Heavy handed moderator in operation. Threads and post are liable to be deleted or moved without prior notification. Moderator's prerogative will be enforced. Any grievances or complains should be addressed to The Administrator. http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/uploads/post-36-1073276974.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member dodo Posted January 10, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted January 10, 2003 Dodo, for canister filter u should try Petmart at Serangoon, its beside Rainbow and the canisters are very good priced. thks...but i am not the one looking for a canister filter... kent2...as wat i said..petmart sells things reasonably cheap...so i guess u better make your way down to petmart to get some of the things u wan Someone suggested Eheim 2215...y not u jus try tat...i am not familiar wif canister filter...gave tat up a year ago...so i lost touch wif canister filter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentkent Posted January 10, 2003 Author Share Posted January 10, 2003 hi guys thanks for the all the advice you had given me once again. I have a question i would only go down to Petmart on next monday to get the canister n skimmer. so can i put my salt, water n sand plus good bacteria in the tank first and let is cycle by my overhead filter first n remove the overhead filter after i get my canister filter (plus i did some reading on Eheim2215 canister filter if i get thaat must i still buy a skimmer???) P.S. Henry (hong leong) ask to put in thin piece of sea food into the tank with all my bacteria solution, saltwater n sand should i do in one week later after the water have cycle ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member CKS Posted January 10, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted January 10, 2003 never had canister filter b 4.. i dont see why u could not run both skimmer & canister together... skimmer will aid in mechanical filtration but whats your budget for the canister filter? i would prob get liverock & stuff with that much of $ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member onghm Posted January 10, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted January 10, 2003 i would only go down to Petmart on next monday toget the canister n skimmer. Juz to let u know Petmart is closed on Mondays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentkent Posted January 10, 2003 Author Share Posted January 10, 2003 never had canister filter b 4.. i dont see why u could not run both skimmer & canister together... skimmer will aid in mechanical filtration but whats your budget for the canister filter? i would prob get liverock & stuff with that much of $ erm i guess i getting the Eheim 2215 i think i should be able to set aside $100 for the cansiter. but now there seems to be a lackage of live rock rite. HL uncle told me if i can't get live rock than i should get some easy to handle corals as most of them are attached to some rocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Tanzy Posted January 10, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted January 10, 2003 The corals won't do too well in an uncycled tank. That is pretty crap advise and I think he is just trying to push sales. Quote Warning: Heavy handed moderator in operation. Threads and post are liable to be deleted or moved without prior notification. Moderator's prerogative will be enforced. Any grievances or complains should be addressed to The Administrator. http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/uploads/post-36-1073276974.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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