SRC Member Virus Posted December 21, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted December 21, 2003 I'm free and thus went reading around and i saw someone post that if you dun have a sump, get a canister for filtration purpose. Ok, now.. i remember caninister is not good for marine, something about a nitrate factory in long terms... Or only if you put in those coral chips and such? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Matt06 Posted December 21, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted December 21, 2003 Actually, canister is good for marine as it can support much higher rate of bac. in a given area. However, if you are talking about Nitrate, it is the final product that a sump or canister cannot remove. Even if it does, the rate will not be acceptable. In a eco-balanced system, we need to understand what is Nutrient Export - which you might want to look into construction of a Refugium. If there is not possible, then I suggest that you get a denitrator to complement your canister filter. You might also want to monitor Phosphate(PO4) and must keep it a low level by using liquid or media Phosphate Remover. Else, you can just grow many micro-algae to remove Nitrate and Prosphate naturally, but I guess your fish will finish the algae before it can perform the job!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryansimon Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 if space is an issue, I guess canister is the next best thing. or you can do a Berlin system. (= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightningstrike Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 i m using cannister, it can work, but algae problem exist. Quote Austin the Westie: "I may be your best friend, but you are my everything". Lightning Strike's Back!!! Reefkeeping Is Not My Hobby, It's My Obsession. Austin's Birthday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member dankoo Posted December 22, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted December 22, 2003 In a eco-balanced system, we need to understand what is Nutrient Export - which you might want to look into construction of a Refugium. If there is not possible, then I suggest that you get a denitrator to complement your canister filter. Any idea how a denitrator works? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member KapoKidd Posted December 22, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted December 22, 2003 Hey im using a cannister and there is two bags of coral chips...should i remove them in place of phosguard..???And is phosphste a must to moniter.....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pondfisher Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 I am using cannisters (nomplace for sump) together with denitrator (Aqua Medic 400) my algae situation has improved quite a bit! Agree next best solution but must monitor the drip rate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member blu_surf Posted December 22, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted December 22, 2003 pondfisher, I am thinking of getting the Aqua Medic Nitrate Reductor 400 also. May I know where did you buy yours from and how much did you pay for it? And is it a low or high maintenence equipment? Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Matt06 Posted December 22, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted December 22, 2003 I am using Aqua Medic Nitrate Reductor 400 now, still testing the result anyway. By the way, if you are interested in getting sera Bio-Denitrator, you might like to get it from me. I am selling it due to the fact that I just upgraded to Aqua Medic Nitrate Reductor 400 due to increased in stock and thus, nitrate production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member kschew1498 Posted December 22, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted December 22, 2003 Actually, canister is good for marine as it can support much higher rate of bac. in a given area. However, if you are talking about Nitrate, it is the final product that a sump or canister cannot remove. Even if it does, the rate will not be acceptable. In a eco-balanced system, we need to understand what is Nutrient Export - which you might want to look into construction of a Refugium. If there is not possible, then I suggest that you get a denitrator to complement your canister filter. You might also want to monitor Phosphate(PO4) and must keep it a low level by using liquid or media Phosphate Remover. Else, you can just grow many micro-algae to remove Nitrate and Prosphate naturally, but I guess your fish will finish the algae before it can perform the job!! Hi Matt06 and fellow reefers I have recently DIY a sump tank with a refugium. In it I have 4" of grade 0 & 1 sandbed. May I ask how do you grow micro algae? Are those the "grasses" grown on LR? What sort of things I should add into my refugium beside my DSB? Appreciate you guys advise.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pondfisher Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Hi blu surf, can get the aqua medic denitrator 400 at Aquamart which is the local agent for Aqua MEdic products. Located along Jln Besar Rd. New costs about $300.00 which includes the Bio Balls. Just connect and adjust the flow rate about 1 drop per sec. NEeds about 3-4 weeks for it to mature. The white bio balls are actually food for the bacteria and the balls will slowly disintergrate every 2 years or when balls disappear must change them. Quite low maintenance and container quite slim and compact. Must monior drip rate cos sometimes can stop dripping cos got air bubble in the tubing. One thing to note as it connects to the outflow of cannister filter by way of a T joint, your cannister outflow must be strong enuf to force the water into the denitrator. I connected mine to my eheim 2217 quite powerful so no problem cos flow rate about 1000ltr per hr. recommed it cos my algae problem was really quite bad but now improve quite a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member blu_surf Posted December 24, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted December 24, 2003 Matt06: I prefer the Aqua Medic 400. Thanks anyway. pondfisher: Sounds quite low-maintenance. Thanks for the helpful information. Merry Christmas all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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