overstock

[lcf425]

i kinda bought too many fishes at one go with my 1.5ft by 1ft tank currently have 2blue tang 2 mandrain 2 maroon clownfish 2 fire dart goby 1 yellow goby 4 harlequin shrimp 2 fire shrimp 2 shunk cleaner shrimp 1 turbo .... any tips and advises to give^^thanks

[jackywongto]

i kinda bought too many fishes at one go with my 1.5ft by 1ft tank currently have 2blue tang 2 mandrain 2 maroon clownfish 2 fire dart goby 1 yellow goby 4 harlequin shrimp 2 fire shrimp 2 shunk cleaner shrimp 1 turbo .... any tips and advises to give^^thanks

hmm keep 4 and give away the rest ?

[yikai]

advice? ok. worst case scenario your entire tank will crash and you will have to restart painfully.

i don't want to sound harsh but what were you thinking buying 2 tangs (super high bioload, fast growers), 2 mandarins (bound to starve in your tank. extremely hard to feed, requires live copepods), 2 maroon clowns (if your other fish don't die from a tank crash, these guys will make sure they all die), 4 harlequin shrimps (these guys feed on LIVE starfish. the amount of starfish you need to feed these 4 shrimps may start dyign and polluting your tank, furthur crashing it).

my suggestion. Remove the 2 tangs, the mandarins, the maroons and maybe the harlequins. sell them away or give it away. and do plenty of water change, dose bacteria.

buying so many fishes at one go is too strenuous on your biological system, and for a tank your size, i'm afraid this might be too much. the tangs require much more space to grow. blue tangs are one of the fastest growing tangs and definitely need a WAY bigger tank

take things slowly and we'll try to help you along the way

[albinosage]

Has your tank been cycled bro? That is reeeeeaaaally overstocked. I suggest you sell off or temporary house some of them in another established tank (your friend's or LFS's). I think 9 small fishes is not unreasonable for a 1.5ft cube, but with tangs and so many other fishes added at once, you will experience new tank syndrome.

[yikai]

the tangs have to go. no question. i'm not a fan of keeping tangs in anything less than a 3ft tank. but it can be done, with limitations. 2 blue tangs in a 1.5ft is a no-no for me.

the 2 mandarins have to go. you should have read up on these guys. they require live copepods and lots of liverock to survive. unless they are eating prepared food (which i highly doubt). plus, are the two you bought of the same gender? they will fight till death if both are same sex.

2 maroon clowns HAVE to go. these guys are extremely fierce and will kill most other fishes given time.

i really suggest reading and reading and do more reading before purchasing livestock. alot of things play an important role in livestock selection including sex of fishes, adaptiveness, hardiness, feeding requirements, space needed etc.

[lcf425]

the maroon seems fine somehow ....as for the mandrain i managed to buy solution copepods and lucky they started to eat trying to get them to eat brine shrimp though... as for the tang yea i think i will transfer to my bro tank^^ ... as for the harlequin i freeze the starfish and chop them when feeding and will remove daily... as due to the super overcrowed tank i change 10% water daily =.=

[dnsfpl]

please share your equipments and tank maintenance if you manage to keep them alive

always wanted a nano with lots of fish, but never dare to try

[yikai]

the maroon seems fine somehow ....as for the mandrain i managed to buy solution copepods and lucky they started to eat trying to get them to eat brine shrimp though... as for the tang yea i think i will transfer to my bro tank^^ ... as for the harlequin i freeze the starfish and chop them when feeding and will remove daily... as due to the super overcrowed tank i change 10% water daily =.=

changing water 10% is a temporary solution. you still have to settle the overcrowding issue. as the fishes grow, it will only get worse.

for a start, transfer the tangs to your brother's tank

the mandarins will need to be trained on at least mysis. brine shrimp is worthless and has no nutritional benefits after 48 hours of hatching. adult brine shrimps like the one sold in most LFS are to a fish, like eating potato chips. delicious but nutrient deficient.

the maroon clowns are ok for now since they are new. once they get established, they will get very fierce especially in a small tank like yours. and you will be unable to add any new fish.

don't freeze starfishes to feed your harlequin. feed them whole live linkia starfishes and let them slowly eat them. The harlequin shrimp will eat the starfish part by part but won't kill it. remember to acclimate the linkia starfish before feeding otherwise it will die in your tank and foul everything up. the reason i don't encourage feeding frozen starfish is because it is dead and it might foul up your tank if your shrimps can't finish it fast enough. a decomposing starfish is really not something you would like.

[lcf425]

please share your equipments and tank maintenance if you manage to keep them alive

always wanted a nano with lots of fish, but never dare to try

its been 2 month but i add the blue tang 1 week ago... just a hang on filer will check in my office and diy led light thats about it =.= and daily 10% water change

[yikai]

please share your equipments and tank maintenance if you manage to keep them alive

always wanted a nano with lots of fish, but never dare to try

a nano with lots of small gobies will be nice

[lcf425]

changing water 10% is a temporary solution. you still have to settle the overcrowding issue. as the fishes grow, it will only get worse.

for a start, transfer the tangs to your brother's tank

the mandarins will need to be trained on at least mysis. brine shrimp is worthless and has no nutritional benefits after 48 hours of hatching. adult brine shrimps like the one sold in most LFS are to a fish, like eating potato chips. delicious but nutrient deficient.

the maroon clowns are ok for now since they are new. once they get established, they will get very fierce especially in a small tank like yours. and you will be unable to add any new fish.

don't freeze starfishes to feed your harlequin. feed them whole live linkia starfishes and let them slowly eat them. The harlequin shrimp will eat the starfish part by part but won't kill it. remember to acclimate the linkia starfish before feeding otherwise it will die in your tank and foul everything up. the reason i don't encourage feeding frozen starfish is because it is dead and it might foul up your tank if your shrimps can't finish it fast enough. a decomposing starfish is really not something you would like.

yea i guess i will transfer the tangs =(

erm whats mysis ar? i always thought brine shrimp is mysis =.=

oh dear maroon that fierce but i mean with my current overstock dun think i will dare get any more fish =.=

erm cause i notice when i put awhole linkia starfish in less then a day its dead and will start to rot or rather get messy in 2 to 3days therefore when to read up how ppl keep them so started to freeze did not know it will foul the tank this way so i have to get smaller starfish then?? erm i have 4 harlequin in whcih 2 of them is a pair and always bully the other 2 =(

[lcf425]

a nano with lots of small gobies will be nice

shrimp for the win^^

[yikai]

yea i guess i will transfer the tangs =(

erm whats mysis ar? i always thought brine shrimp is mysis =.=

oh dear maroon that fierce but i mean with my current overstock dun think i will dare get any more fish =.=

erm cause i notice when i put awhole linkia starfish in less then a day its dead and will start to rot or rather get messy in 2 to 3days therefore when to read up how ppl keep them so started to freeze did not know it will foul the tank this way so i have to get smaller starfish then?? erm i have 4 harlequin in whcih 2 of them is a pair and always bully the other 2 =(

mysis is white, brine is brownish/orange. mysis is much more nutritious.

maroon is very fierce. i suggest you read up on livestock.

the reason why your linkia dies is because you just dump it in. linkia starfishes are invertibrates and are very sensitive to changes in water condition. you need to slowly acclimate them by drip method (google this up).

secondly, harlequin shrimps are very territorial (again, read up read up!) a pair will chase and fight with any other that may be present.

i suggest you separate the 2 that is being bullied.

please read up before buying anymore livestock in future to prevent such mishaps again/

[dnsfpl]

a nano with lots of small gobies will be nice

added a wrasse lookalike in my home reef tank, peppermint hogfish

still planning my office wrasse tank

[yikai]

added a wrasse lookalike in my home reef tank, peppermint hogfish

still planning my office wrasse tank

careful. peppermint hogs can get really fierce.

[CFOh]

changing water 10% is a temporary solution. you still have to settle the overcrowding issue. as the fishes grow, it will only get worse.

for a start, transfer the tangs to your brother's tank

the mandarins will need to be trained on at least mysis. brine shrimp is worthless and has no nutritional benefits after 48 hours of hatching. adult brine shrimps like the one sold in most LFS are to a fish, like eating potato chips. delicious but nutrient deficient.

the maroon clowns are ok for now since they are new. once they get established, they will get very fierce especially in a small tank like yours. and you will be unable to add any new fish.

don't freeze starfishes to feed your harlequin. feed them whole live linkia starfishes and let them slowly eat them. The harlequin shrimp will eat the starfish part by part but won't kill it. remember to acclimate the linkia starfish before feeding otherwise it will die in your tank and foul everything up. the reason i don't encourage feeding frozen starfish is because it is dead and it might foul up your tank if your shrimps can't finish it fast enough. a decomposing starfish is really not something you would like.

:agreed:

I uses Brine Shrimp to train fishes appetite.. base on research.... basically they lost nutrition aft 48hour hatch...

dun try Maroon especially nano tank.. headaches fella....

about Harlequin... not much experience on this fella... but I know some bros feeding frozen starfish...

Cheers and Happy Reefing...

[lcf425]

mysis is white, brine is brownish/orange. mysis is much more nutritious.

maroon is very fierce. i suggest you read up on livestock.

the reason why your linkia dies is because you just dump it in. linkia starfishes are invertibrates and are very sensitive to changes in water condition. you need to slowly acclimate them by drip method (google this up).

secondly, harlequin shrimps are very territorial (again, read up read up!) a pair will chase and fight with any other that may be present.

i suggest you separate the 2 that is being bullied.

please read up before buying anymore livestock in future to prevent such mishaps again/

Kk will get that mysis^^

oh dear guess I have to find another tank for maroon then =[

as for the starfish it dead cause it like a white roti prata =.= yea I did spilt te couple and the 2 single harlequin already

oh and btw my pair happen to breed and have eggs is it possible to hatch and rear them?

[lcf425]

:agreed:

I uses Brine Shrimp to train fishes appetite.. base on research.... basically they lost nutrition aft 48hour hatch...

dun try Maroon especially nano tank.. headaches fella....

about Harlequin... not much experience on this fella... but I know some bros feeding frozen starfish...

Cheers and Happy Reefing...

Darn thought all clowns the same the fish fellow cheat me=.= guess will change to another pair or clownfish then ^^

[dnsfpl]

careful. peppermint hogs can get really fierce.

noted

thankfully its my last fish

furthermore i dont intend to add any wrasse

cheers

[lcf425]

Btw thanks lemon for all the tips ^^

[yikai]

Kk will get that mysis^^

oh dear guess I have to find another tank for maroon then =[

as for the starfish it dead cause it like a white roti prata =.= yea I did spilt te couple and the 2 single harlequin already

oh and btw my pair happen to breed and have eggs is it possible to hatch and rear them?

it's impossible to rear harlequin shrimps. let's put it this way. it's easy for humans to give birth. but to breed harlequin shrimps, it will be equivalent of cloning a human from 1 cell. that's how difficult it is. metaphorically speaking

Darn thought all clowns the same the fish fellow cheat me=.= guess will change to another pair or clownfish then ^^

which fish fellow cheat you? what LFS did you buy the maroon clowns from. these clowns are very fierce and are certainly not the same from normal clowns.

Btw thanks lemon for all the tips ^^

you're welcome.

[yikai]

:agreed:

I uses Brine Shrimp to train fishes appetite.. base on research.... basically they lost nutrition aft 48hour hatch...

dun try Maroon especially nano tank.. headaches fella....

about Harlequin... not much experience on this fella... but I know some bros feeding frozen starfish...

Cheers and Happy Reefing...

freshly hatched brine shrimp have a very high nutrient yolk sac attached to them in which they gain nutrients from. after 48 hours, the yolk sac will be depleted and the shrimp will have not much nutritional benefits.

thus, the earlier you feed the brine shrimp upon hatching the bettter.

[lcf425]

it's impossible to rear harlequin shrimps. let's put it this way. it's easy for humans to give birth. but to breed harlequin shrimps, it will be equivalent of cloning a human from 1 cell. that's how difficult it is. metaphorically speaking

which fish fellow cheat you? what LFS did you buy the maroon clowns from. these clowns are very fierce and are certainly not the same from normal clowns.

you're welcome.

Kk then I will drop the idea of breeding then =[

he said it's not fierce and keep in the tank sure ok

erm as for the rest in my tank can I just leave it ??? I mean beside transferings tangs and most likely maroon?? Anymore to change or advises??

[DUCADOS]

Next time seek advice before doing lo. Patience is very important for marine. Say easy but do difficult coz I myself also no patience come to marine fishes.

I understand sometime may be too tempting to c those nice colourful fishes n yet tank too small.

But it's always the case when u wan this u can't have that.

Wat #3 thread indeed a logical wan.

[yikai]

firefish, goby, shrimps are all fine left inside.

find a good home for the tangs, mandarins and maroons. and the 2 lone harlequins.