navyseal09 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Hi reefer bros, i just tested my water with Red sea marine Lab test kit and my ammonia (NH3) was at 1.0 and my Nitrite (NO2) is at 0.2 and my Nitrate (NO3) was at 10ppm my market prawn has not been totally decomposed do i remove it now or i will wait for the prawn to be decomposed totally??? am i on the right track of cycling ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member teebs Posted May 7, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted May 7, 2010 You can wait for the prawn to decompose fully. And be patient, you're only at the initial cycling stage. Quote My Setup: 3x2x2 tank with IOS Equipment List: Chiller: Artica 1/5HP Chiller Pump: Sicce 4000 Return Pump: OR3500 Skimmer: Deltec APF600 Wavemaker: Tunze Wavebox/2x Hydor K2/SCWD wavemaker Lights: DElighting 2x150W MH + 2x 39W T5 Atinic FR: Skimz FR Pump: Atman AT-104 Tubby ATO, Kalkweisser Reactor with magnetic stirrer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navyseal09 Posted May 7, 2010 Author Share Posted May 7, 2010 You can wait for the prawn to decompose fully. And be patient, you're only at the initial cycling stage. so basically i can say that im on the right track ?? all i need to do is wait till the amonnia n nitrate turns 0 isnt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Reefer yikai Posted May 7, 2010 Senior Reefer Share Posted May 7, 2010 so basically i can say that im on the right track ?? all i need to do is wait till the amonnia n nitrate turns 0 isnt it? wait for ammonia and nitrite to turn 0. nitrate won't turn zero. when ammonia and nitrite turns 0 and you find very high readings of nitrate, means cycling is done. do water change to bring the nitrates down. then you are good to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFOh Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Hi reefer bros, i just tested my water with Red sea marine Lab test kit and my ammonia (NH3) was at 1.0 and my Nitrite (NO2) is at 0.2 and my Nitrate (NO3) was at 10ppm my market prawn has not been totally decomposed do i remove it now or i will wait for the prawn to be decomposed totally??? am i on the right track of cycling ?? Ya, you need Market Prawn decay to generate the ammonia. Until Ammonia (NH3) and Nitrite (NO2) reach almost undetectable.. As below GIF illustration: Quote LFS Map in singapore __________________ ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. >((((º> Cheers and Happy Reefing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member raydiative Posted May 7, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted May 7, 2010 you are on the right track but still only less then half way thru... you can continue to leave the prawn in.. no worries Quote A man with a reef tank is a man with an empty wallet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navyseal09 Posted May 7, 2010 Author Share Posted May 7, 2010 woot Cool . was wondering am i on the right track. now all i need to do is wait. Thank you guys!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member DUCADOS Posted May 7, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted May 7, 2010 Patient is the thing u need now. If your tank is totally new (newly set up) u will need about 3months (at least) for the wter to mature Quote Some1 doesn't 1 2 do anything find an excuse,some1 1 2 do something find a mean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navyseal09 Posted May 8, 2010 Author Share Posted May 8, 2010 Woah 3 months?! Haha its gonna be a long wait but it'll be all worth while if you know all the fishes living in a heathy n happy environment.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member comycus Posted May 8, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted May 8, 2010 Woah 3 months?! Haha its gonna be a long wait but it'll be all worth while when the fish living in a heathy n happy environment.... Don't worry bro. Cycling normally takes 4-6 weeks. After your tank has been fully cycled, you can start adding your fishes and corals SLOWLY. The idea is to introduce a small amt of lifestock at spaced out intervals to allow for the bacteria to grow and accomodate with the increased bio-load. You will also want to start off with easier fishes and corals which are hardy. Reason being your tank is still new and the parameters are not stable yet, so harder to keep LS are a no-no for the next 6 months to 1 year. The list of LS you can keep is already long enough, so be patient and wait for your tank to mature before adding those powder series tangs or SPS corals and other harder to keep ones. Hate to spoil the party but 3 months is like a trip to the school park. lol 1 Quote My old 3ft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Reefer yikai Posted May 8, 2010 Senior Reefer Share Posted May 8, 2010 Don't worry bro. Cycling normally takes 4-6 weeks. After your tank has been fully cycled, you can start adding your fishes and corals SLOWLY. The idea is to introduce a small amt of lifestock at spaced out intervals to allow for the bacteria to grow and accomodate with the increased bio-load. You will also want to start off with easier fishes and corals which are hardy. Reason being your tank is still new and the parameters are not stable yet, so harder to keep LS are a no-no for the next 6 months to 1 year. The list of LS you can keep is already long enough, so be patient and wait for your tank to mature before adding those powder series tangs or SPS corals and other harder to keep ones. Hate to spoil the party but 3 months is like a trip to the school park. lol that's the rule according to literature. if you invest in good equipment, good liverock, it's possible to add in difficult to keep corals and fishes on the first day you finish cycling. but this is not adviced unless you are an experienced reefer and have money to spend on good equipment which results in stable parameters asap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member comycus Posted May 8, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted May 8, 2010 that's the rule according to literature. if you invest in good equipment, good liverock, it's possible to add in difficult to keep corals and fishes on the first day you finish cycling. but this is not adviced unless you are an experienced reefer and have money to spend on good equipment which results in stable parameters asap Yeah I agree, have seen many experienced reefers doing it right. And for newcomers, the reason why not advised to do so is that you wanna start off in the swimming pool first before going into the deep ocean Quote My old 3ft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Reefer yikai Posted May 8, 2010 Senior Reefer Share Posted May 8, 2010 Yeah I agree, have seen many experienced reefers doing it right. And for newcomers, the reason why not advised to do so is that you wanna start off in the swimming pool first before going into the deep ocean yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navyseal09 Posted May 8, 2010 Author Share Posted May 8, 2010 yup i dont think i will be adding any coral for my tank as myp lan for this tank will be Fish with live rock only tank. i read up a bit on adding fishes into the tank.they were saying max of 2 fishes is advisable to add into the tank due to not to upset the bio load too sudden what you guys think?? for me i think i'll be adding a boxer shrimp and a yellow watchman goby into the tank first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFOh Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 i dont think i will be adding any coral for my tank as myp lan for this tank will be Fish with live rock only tank. i read up a bit on adding fishes into the tank.they were saying max of 2 fishes is advisable to add into the tank due to not to upset the bio load too sudden what you guys think?? for me i think i'll be adding a boxer shrimp and a yellow watchman goby into the tank first. for boxer shrimp try Yellow coral banded shrimp (steponus cyanoscelis) or blue/purple coral banded shrimp (Steponus tenuirostris). I found normal type regular coral banded shrimp (Steponus Hispidus) or Gold coral banded shrimp (Steponus zanzibaricus) a bit too aggressive and territory. The first 2 photos below are Yellow and Blue coral band.. The last pic is normal Steponus Hispidus boxer shrimp.. And the size can be significant bigger the yellow and blue one... for Yellow watchman goby are supper hardy fish.. should be ok.. but they always hide... dun worry.. but patient.. start with 2 fishes first.. increase bioload too much is not healthy during tank cycle..... Cheers Quote LFS Map in singapore __________________ ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. >((((º> Cheers and Happy Reefing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navyseal09 Posted May 8, 2010 Author Share Posted May 8, 2010 Hi abit off track here i'm thinking of getting a light set for my tank but with about 100 dollars of budget which light set u guys recommend ?? i'll be doing a FWOLR tank. saw a reefer bro selling Giesemann t5 at $1x0 . is it ok to buy it ? need advise.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member nakazoru Posted May 9, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted May 9, 2010 Giesemann t5 is a good choice as it offers an option to add corals if you so decide at a later stage. Only setback is that it is of higher wattage. Quote Equipment: 30G Corner Tank with 10G Sump, 2 x 24W artinic T5, 1 x 24W 10K, 1x 24W 20K, 3" Grade 0 sand & Live rocks, Activated Carbon, Bio-home, 2 x Seio M620, Hailea 1/2HP Chiller, Redsea Pro Skimmer Live Stock: Turbo Snail x 1, Green Mandarin Dragonet X 2, Blue Tang X 2, True percular x 2, 1 x Algae Bleenie, Clarke clown x 2 Reef: 1 x 2" Blue maxima, Red/Brown/Purple Mushroom (Discosoma), Pink Ricordea yuma, A little colony Brown/Green common Zoanthus, Red/Pink/Green US Zoanthus, Eagle-eye Zoathus, 14 Branch Goniopora Pandoraensis, 1 Starburst Polyps, 3 + 2 Branch Frogspawn, 4 Blasto, palythoa, Cheato RIPs (Since June 2005): 1. Sabae clown (KO by Clarke clown) 2. 1 branch melted frogspawn 4 branch 3. Golden maxima (Ripe the base off rock by me) 4. Algae Bleenie x 2 (Starvation) 5. Blue Maxima x 1, 2 x Maxima, 1 x frogspawn, rics (Overtemp...) Old 30G Corner Tank. Restarted 30G Corner Tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navyseal09 Posted May 9, 2010 Author Share Posted May 9, 2010 Giesemann t5 is a good choice as it offers an option to add corals if you so decide at a later stage. Only setback is that it is of higher wattage. icic still cant make up my mind should i get a better light due to budget constrain . Anyway the prawn have decomposed and i also have added Top Up from iwarna to stimulate my caroline algae growth. i also discovered there are white hairy stuff that actually sticking on my LR . Are those hair Algae?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tribe172 Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 Ya, you need Market Prawn decay to generate the ammonia. Until Ammonia (NH3) and Nitrite (NO2) reach almost undetectable.. As below GIF illustration: cool flash presentation! haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyBoy Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 icic still cant make up my mind should i get a better light due to budget constrain . Anyway the prawn have decomposed and i also have added Top Up from iwarna to stimulate my caroline algae growth. i also discovered there are white hairy stuff that actually sticking on my LR . Are those hair Algae?? Take it slowly on the equipment. Try to save up to get the better ones. No need to use the top up water, just use distilled water or DI water. Good if you can use startup bacteria to get correct strain on initial setup. Quote Member of : UEN: T08SS0098FMASS in Facebook Reefing in LED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member DUCADOS Posted May 16, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted May 16, 2010 icic still cant make up my mind should i get a better light due to budget constrain . Anyway the prawn have decomposed and i also have added Top Up from iwarna to stimulate my caroline algae growth. i also discovered there are white hairy stuff that actually sticking on my LR . Are those hair Algae?? White hairy stuff? Transparent wan izzit? Possible to take pic show us coz there's this transparent thing ot white thing that grow on my LR before. After knowing it'll sting n kill my fishes,immediately I throw the whole rock away. Quote Some1 doesn't 1 2 do anything find an excuse,some1 1 2 do something find a mean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navyseal09 Posted May 16, 2010 Author Share Posted May 16, 2010 yah i have used bacteria start up to help with my cycling process now my ammonia level is actually 0.25 and nitrite is 0 hope can be ready by this wed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyBoy Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 White stuff should be too much of the bacteria. Make sure your skimmer is skimming wet. Quote Member of : UEN: T08SS0098FMASS in Facebook Reefing in LED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuEl Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Read up more. The best equipments does not mean you will end up with the best tank. If your understanding is there, it does not matter what type of equipment you own. A good site would be www.advancedaquarist.com Read the past articles. Quote Always something more important than fish. http://reefbuilders.com/2012/03/08/sps-pico-reef/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Ketchup Posted May 17, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted May 17, 2010 White hairy stuff? Transparent wan izzit? Possible to take pic show us coz there's this transparent thing ot white thing that grow on my LR before. After knowing it'll sting n kill my fishes,immediately I throw the whole rock away. Ducados, what you describe should be Atapsia... kill these ASAP.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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