Reefsafe angelfishes? Look here

[BKChoo]

Paracentropyge

Peppermint Angel - Centropyge boylei

HAHAHA. This angel will cost more than any LPS you ever buy. Better feed LPS to it i say! It's worthy

Multibar Angel - Paracentropyge multifasciatus

Difficult fish. Safe with SPS. With caution when keeping with LPS. they do nip. but i'm unsure of the ratio.

bro,

is Paracentropyge venusta/venustus (Purple Masked Angelfish, Venustus Pygmy Angel) reef safe?

[yikai]

bro,

is Paracentropyge venusta/venustus (Purple Masked Angelfish, Venustus Pygmy Angel) reef safe?

yes to a large extent.

these fishes are not difficult to keep but very difficult to adapt.

if acquired a healthy specimen that adapt fast, they make very hardy pets.

but 90% of them don't eat and don't adapt, and die very quickly.

[kiok]

My tank is 3'x2'x2 with 1 queen angel, blue face angel, flame angel, majestic angel, comet grouper , yellow tang, blue tang, scarlet hogfish, two damsels and clown fish.

I plan to convert to a reef tank with some corals and a clam.

What are the fishes I need to get rid off? (as little as possible)

[mug888]

Tnx LemonLemon. Just started 2 love angel. Especially, Queen n Blue Face. Ur write up is very helpful!

[Happy13]

Great write up for reference! Should be pinned. Then can refer easily..

[Groot Vis]

My pleasure. I'm still hoping and waiting for someone who is successful with a bandit angel to share his story with us esp temp and feeding issue.

I do not know if 13 months is successful. I have a bandit now for 13 months it was directly imported from Hawaii a 37 hour flight at 7cm. The fish came in with 12kg water. I started quarantining it directly with the bucket method. It only started eating on day 5. It was eating only floating pellets ( small new live spectrum ) then it started eating ocean nutrition pellets. On day 7 it started eating frozen mysis ocean nutrition then on day 8 I moved her to my tank not long after that she was eating angel formula. She started showing sighs of flukes then I put her threw 4 weeks prazipro . She is eats every thing now even nori but pellets are what she likes most and only ocean nutrition pellets not other makes. In the morning she gets formula 1 pellets and nori in the evenings she gets angel formula frozen then one of the following clam on half shell or mysis or krill or mussel after one of them formula 2 pellets. I keep the tank under 24c temp in summer in winter i let it drop to as low as 22c My bandit is extremely aggressive for a bandit I think that helps a lot even chasing my 13cm black tang my bandit is now just over 9cm

[pomacanthus]

even the SPS safe angels will peck at the mucus secreting tips of SPS when they are feeling peckish

[pomacanthus]

so which are the circumstances that would make the SPS most vulnerable? I'd say 2 main ones- after a water change (when the SPS have been exposed to air) or after dosing additives

[pomacanthus]

from my experience, after a water change is the most vulnerable, and that additional pecking does not help the sps. Would thus recommend keeping the total number of angels small

[pomacanthus]

and then if you have big angels, though the angels are good natured in helping to clean off algae, they will not be very precise and thus nip off some surrounding tissue too. So if you have delicate frags, best to put them in a frag rack, and out of the biting zone of these big guys

[pomacanthus]

as for the small angles of centropyge, I agree with the main article's description of their reef safe-ness. Generally quite benign unless you happen to buy bad natured specimens. since they like to feed on filamentous surface algae, they can supplement the cleaning crew in most tanks

[pomacanthus]

Some reefers have also told me that a good way to keep the angels from eating the corals is to keep them well fed and stuffed with a variety of food like seaweed etc. Any experiences to share?

[pomacanthus]

One more note about the genicanthus angels- I must caution against saying they are absolutely reef safe. My bellus angel started out being benign, until it discovered it's inner animal instinct (or something visceral) and then took a nip here, and a nip there.

So what this does is firstly create a situation of receding coral tissue (especially of my open brain, scoly, etc), exacerbated by reduced chance for the coral to regenerate. What's worse, even if it does, the colour is often not the same as the original

[ASHWIN]

Good Info! Ups for you bro!

[illumnae]

If my golden angel has started developing a taste for open brains, but has left other LPS alone, what are the odds he will expand his tastes to other LPS after I remove the open brains? My concern is mainly the Euphyllia sp. corals like bubbles, frogspawn etc.

[I love angel]

I have try many time to keep golden angel in fowlr tank, it is difficult to get golden angel to feed in fowlr tank. I head only possible is to keep it in coral tank and let them eat some corals.

Other method seems have very little success in keeping golden angel.

If you have not get it to feed on pellet, it will eat other corals if you remove the brain.

If my golden angel has started developing a taste for open brains, but has left other LPS alone, what are the odds he will expand his tastes to other LPS after I remove the open brains? My concern is mainly the Euphyllia sp. corals like bubbles, frogspawn etc.

[sanhas]

Just to share that my Bellus also nip on my coals like elegance and bubble. Now I try to feed 3 times a day.

[Digiman]

I do not know if 13 months is successful. I have a bandit now for 13 months it was directly imported from Hawaii a 37 hour flight at 7cm. The fish came in with 12kg water. I started quarantining it directly with the bucket method. It only started eating on day 5. It was eating only floating pellets ( small new live spectrum ) then it started eating ocean nutrition pellets. On day 7 it started eating frozen mysis ocean nutrition then on day 8 I moved her to my tank not long after that she was eating angel formula. She started showing sighs of flukes then I put her threw 4 weeks prazipro . She is eats every thing now even nori but pellets are what she likes most and only ocean nutrition pellets not other makes. In the morning she gets formula 1 pellets and nori in the evenings she gets angel formula frozen then one of the following clam on half shell or mysis or krill or mussel after one of them formula 2 pellets. I keep the tank under 24c temp in summer in winter i let it drop to as low as 22c My bandit is extremely aggressive for a bandit I think that helps a lot even chasing my 13cm black tang my bandit is now just over 9cm

Hi Yuri,

My comments for bandit being a difficult angel was made 4 yrs ago which is now not valid. Back then, properly collected bandits were scarce.

Today conditioned bandits that are collected and acclimated carefully are readily available and in smaller sizes.

Locally in singapore we are not short of healthy thriving bandits.

In recent two years, many reefers have enjoyed success with bandits and it is now lifted off the "difficult" angelfish list.

Personally i have not yet tried to keep another bandit despite seeing so many small-medium sizes readily available.

Probably because it has become abit too"easy" and "common" and i have lost the interest to try one.

[sherman]

I almost want to put up this question "What angel is reefsafe?"

Then I saw it.

Thank You for the info.

But look like there is no LPS and softies safe angel?

[tanyinghsin]

Very informative thread.

[Angel Keeper]

Euphyllia are generally quite safe with angels...

Angel Keeper

[superbee]

Hi all, just introduced a flame angel into my tank. After few days, noticed my digi poly all retracted. After few days of monitoring, confirmed my angel is the culprit. Just my luck!

[Showmeyourwrasse]

Thanks very informative! I am glad I joined the site!

[Puncak82]

Thank for the information. I heard coral beauty and flame angel will nip at corals on a small tank (30 gallon and below) unless we keep them well fed. Is this true? any other advise?