DIY MH Lobang

[yazid]

Got this from another Forum:

If you diy with bulbs and ballast from EYE lighting, you can get it done with a very good price...

I got my 250W single ended Iwasaki 6500k at around $130...

Items inclusive of

1) 1 6500k Iwasaki (inbuilt ignitor)

2) 1 Mercury Vapour Ballast

3) I capacitor

4) 1 E40 bulb holder...

The 150Ws Iwasaki comes in SE and DE...

Light shop:

3T Lighting

633, Veerasamy Rd

#01-122

Singapore 200633

Phone : 62975750

Contact: Teo

MH Bulb:

Eye Lighting Asia Pacific Pte Ltd

21, Kaki Bukit Pl

Eunos Techpark

Singapore 416199

Phone : 67423611

Contact: Agnes

Another place:

441 balestier road, lights and lights ltd

the boss is eugene ng

ask for toyostar model 5507c (i think, if not just tell him metal halide)

it's not physically there, you can check the catalogue tho

62512298 if i'm not wrong

[mv3i]

hey yazid ,

how much they charging at 3T .... they once over quoted me so much that i was pretty upset with him .... don't ask me what they quote me ... it's way out of this world for sometihing like that ... !!! anyway , would like to get a new bulb for my 150W MH DE from agnes ... anyone interested ? 10 K ?

more order can bring the price down more .... unless phang like to sharel where his lobang is for MH bulb ?

[Phang]

Hmmmm....

The top portion seems to be posted by me.....

You can get the Sakis at that price from Eye Lighting....

But if you notice the thread on colour test by Spade... you can see that the reef will look pretty yellow....

Recommend that reefers who wants high PAR and also good colouration from corals supplement the Sakis with a bulb with a high portions of blue...

I'm with Blueline Bulbs (400W).... alternative choices are Radiums....

If want them plain, nice with a slight bluish sheen, go for Ushios... for that, look for Spade, he's the guy.....

[harlequin]

Would appreciate if fellow reefers can post information on which shops sell what bulbs and MH fixtures with pricing.

At least those who wants to DIY can have a better idea on where to go.

[mv3i]

yah .... agree with har on that !!!

does ushio's come in DE 150W 10K bulb ... and where got sell ( robe) and how much too ?

anyone interested ?

[BarraCudaTM]

actually I'm planning to buy 2x250 iwasaki tmr and using 4x 36watts actinic PLs to offset the color

[robe]

For radium MH lamps try Penta Lighting at AMK indst'l pk 2. THey have 250w radium at $100 each (while stock last) but if demand is there they will reorder. They used to have 400w radium as well but they say they will not reorder it anymore.

If all the reefers here can band together they can reorder it again. THey can also order Osram blue 400 watts lamp. I have not seen what the Osram blue will look like yet but it should be similar. The last time I asked another shop they say they can sell at $110 each for quantity of 10 per order. Please note that Osram has not printed any spectral distribution chart so not sure whether the peak falls at 450 nm ( I suspect that some of the 20K bulbs in the US other than radium or Ushio comes from Osram.)

[Phang]

What time will you be there??? Eye Lighting???

Cos I'm going there in the morning to get my HPS Ballast....

[harlequin]

Is the 250W DE the same physical length as 150W DE ?

Thought of upgrading the ballast to 250W and use back the same hood.

[Achilles Tang]

Thanks Robe...!

Phang and I are collecting orders for the 400watt radiums... hopefully they can bring in.. if not... we will order from overseas.

[BarraCudaTM]

I also going in the morning .. what time you going?

sms or call me leh

[Phang]

Hi Guys,

Since we are in this topic of DIY Ballast...

I have a question....

I'm currently holding onto a Blue line 400W bulb... only issue.... dunno the striking voltage require to ignite the bulb.... hunt the web and found no specs to guide me.... no rep office here for Bluelines so I'm stuck and I'm suppose to get the HPS ballast tommorow....

So I'm intending to bring the bulb to Eye Lighting and try every ignitor from the lowest striking voltage to the highest.... the first ignitor capable to strike the bulb up should be the one...... IS THIS THE RIGHT WAY?????

suppose for 400W, ignitor should be 4 kV.....

I think Spade has the same issue with his 250W Ushios...

One excellent lesson learned when ordering bulbs from overseas.... GET THE SPECS!!!!!......

Weiming, should be there around 10 am...

will call you....

Boy, you gonna need lots of actinics to neutralise the yellow..........

Yes, regarding the Radiums, anyone else interested????

Can overdrive the bulb with a 430V HPS Ballast.... then wouldn't be so blue...

[BarraCudaTM]

I meet you at bishan mrt at 10am?

[spade]

I think Spade has the same issue with his 250W Ushios...

One excellent lesson learned when ordering bulbs from overseas.... GET THE SPECS!!!!!......

u can say that again i'm going with u guy to EYE. I'll meet up Phang first to goto HC

[Tanzy]

actually I'm planning to buy 2x250 iwasaki tmr and using 4x 36watts actinic PLs to offset the color

You are going to need a lot more actinics than that! Don't underestimate how bright Iwasaki bulbs are. Even a 400W Radium can't balance out the light from a 250W Saki properly.

[Phang]

You are going to need a lot more actinics than that! Don't underestimate how bright Iwasaki bulbs are. Even a 400W Radium can't balance out the light from a 250W Saki properly.

Yeah..... I definitely stand by that statement.....

recommend that you also join AT, Tanzy and Myself in getting 400W Radiums ... in fact 2 sets to balance out the Iwasaki.... quick quick, place your order for the Radiums in the Radium Bulk Order Section......

[chanbi]

I am wondering what is the PAR for all these various bulbs (apart from the colour difference). Can anyone help?

Iwasaki 6500k 250w

Radium 20kk 250w

Ushio ?k 250w

blueline ?k 250w

[Tanzy]

PPFD (Photosynthetic Photon Flux Density) is the measurement for the PAR output of a bulb.

Iwasaki 6500K 250W

124.2 on MH Ballast

106.5 on MV Ballast

I can't find any PPFD readings on the other bulbs at that wattage.

Ushio 10000K 400W

99.11 on Magnetic ballast

105.7 on PFO-HQI ballast (430W Son Agro HPS)

107.5 on Blueline E-ballast

Osram Radium 400W

90.63 on Magnetic

110.2 on PFO-HQI

114.4 on Blueline E-ballast

[Tanzy]

Double post. Sorry.

[chanbi]

Tanzy, thanks.. Since the comparison is not apple to apple, can u provide the PPFD for Iwasaki 400W?

[alvy]

can i chip in to the 400w radium order..i'm interested too!!

[Phang]

Yap, place your order at the Radium Group order thread...

How many bulbs you going for....

Hmmm.... Iwaskis 250W 6500k on MH Ballast?????

[Tanzy]

The ballast recommended by Iwasaki is the ANSI H33 ballast, since this lamp is designed to replace the mercury vapor (MV) lamps in MV light fixtures. However, most aquarists run this lamp on ballasts rated for both M59/H33.

Iwasaki 6500K 400W

187.6 on Magnetic

199.7 on MV

176.3 on E-ballast

[fisher]

Hi Guy..

Just like to enquiry..what kind of MH u guys are using now...Single end or Double end is better...some say SE have UV protection whereas DE had to use tempered glass to shield off the UV....anyway now currently own a 4 feet tank keeping soft corals...so go for 2 X 150 watts..

what brand is better if i going for DIY one..And where is the best place to ask infos on DIY MH..Pls kindly enlighten mi..Thanks Bro and Sis

[joolye]

Hi, wanted to DIY a SE 6500K Iwasaki. can anyone kind soul show me how to do the connection! Saw one earlier post on the connection but not very sure!?!?