SRC Member BFG Posted April 14, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted April 14, 2010 Please check your N/P Bio Pellet. There appear to be a fake product found by reefer in HK. Here's the link. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1694529&page=42 A youtube link to show the difference- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozh7CkAh9JU&feature=player_embedded# 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member teebs Posted April 14, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted April 14, 2010 Please check your N/P Bio Pellet. There appear to be a fake product found by reefer in HK. Here's the link. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1694529&page=42 A youtube link to show the difference- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozh7CkAh9JU&feature=player_embedded# Dun think that will happen in Singapore as there is an exclusive distributor here and all LFS get their stocks from him. Quote My Setup: 3x2x2 tank with IOS Equipment List: Chiller: Artica 1/5HP Chiller Pump: Sicce 4000 Return Pump: OR3500 Skimmer: Deltec APF600 Wavemaker: Tunze Wavebox/2x Hydor K2/SCWD wavemaker Lights: DElighting 2x150W MH + 2x 39W T5 Atinic FR: Skimz FR Pump: Atman AT-104 Tubby ATO, Kalkweisser Reactor with magnetic stirrer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member iskay Posted April 14, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted April 14, 2010 Dun think that will happen in Singapore as there is an exclusive distributor here and all LFS get their stocks from him. Anything is possible..... Quote "Be formless... shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle; it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot; it becomes the teapot. Water can flow, or it can crash. Be water, my friend..." - Lei Siu Lung (Bruce Lee) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member jc85 Posted April 14, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted April 14, 2010 http://www.reef.hk/forum/index.php?showtopic=7510&st=160 Seems like an issue with exporter. Someone in Canada reported having the fake mixed in the pack. Better do ur due diligent to check. Cheers JC Quote Earth Conservation Blog My Marine Blog For All Sengkang Residents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo77 Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 in this trade where there is an agent, it will not stop LFSes from importing from HK if they have the lobang and cheaper to get. Moreover, the 500ml and 1L are not standard package, there are bigger package. Hence, possibility of repackaging. Good for reefer to look at the video and check and highlight for any fake bio pellet spotted. Quote Tank : 4 X 2 X 2 with low iron front panel and external overflow Skimmer : BK SM200 with waste collector Return Pumps : Red Dragon 6m3 and Ehiem 1262 FR : 2 X Deltec 509 & powered by AB2000 Nitrate Filter : Deltec NF 509 and tee off from AB2000 Calcium R'tor : Deltec PF 501 with RM secondary chamber Kalkwasser R'tor : Deltec KM500 Chiller : Pansonic 1 HP Compressor with 20m titanium Coil Wave Makers : 4 X Tunze 6055 with 7096 & Vortec MP40w Controller : GHL Profilux Lighting : ATI Powermodule 10 or 8 tubes Water Top-up : Water Top-Up tank powered by Tunze Osmolator External Monitor : American Pinpoint pH and Temp. Monitor for main tank and GHL Profilux Controller to measure temp, pH, Redox Ozonizer : Sander C50 UV : Corallife 6x Algae Scrubbler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member LaW Posted April 14, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted April 14, 2010 now im worried. better check mine whether its any of those. Quote If a man could beat his own fantasy. Then to only breed in captivity. Then its pointless. Genesis 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that has life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. And God created great whales, and every living creature that moves, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. And the evening and the morning were the fifth day. || Tank: 78" x 30" x 30" || Sump: 48" x 22" x 20" || Lights: PowerModule 10 X 80W|| Returns: 2 x HF32 || || Skimmer: BubbleKing Supermarin 300 || Wavemaker: 3 x 6100 & 1 x 6200, 2 x Wavebox 6212, WavySea || || FR: 2 x FR150 || NR: Sulphur Denitrator || CR: RM Custom Made 8" || KR: Deltec KM500 || TopUp: Tunze Osmolator 3155 || || UV: Coralife 12X 36W || Ozonizer: Sanders C200|| Controller: GHL Profilux Plus II Ex || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member teebs Posted April 14, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted April 14, 2010 in this trade where there is an agent, it will not stop LFSes from importing from HK if they have the lobang and cheaper to get. Moreover, the 500ml and 1L are not standard package, there are bigger package. Hence, possibility of repackaging. Good for reefer to look at the video and check and highlight for any fake bio pellet spotted. The bigger packages are ONLY for sale to aquafarms/public aquariums and they deal direct with the manufacturer. All other exclusive distributors in each country deal with the global distributor in the neatherlands and the standard packing is 500ml and 1,000ml. Of course there is the possibility of the LFSes here getting their stocks from other distributors in other countries and thus getting in some fake products. Quote My Setup: 3x2x2 tank with IOS Equipment List: Chiller: Artica 1/5HP Chiller Pump: Sicce 4000 Return Pump: OR3500 Skimmer: Deltec APF600 Wavemaker: Tunze Wavebox/2x Hydor K2/SCWD wavemaker Lights: DElighting 2x150W MH + 2x 39W T5 Atinic FR: Skimz FR Pump: Atman AT-104 Tubby ATO, Kalkweisser Reactor with magnetic stirrer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klyve Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Wow scare the hell out of me....Cause when i got the pellet my skimmer also stop skimming for 1 week days.I just took out the pellet and burn as what the video saw and lucky mine the result is the same as the original pellet shown on u tube.. I got mine from Irwana the 2nd batch.... Quote || Tank: 5x2x2.5 || Sump 3.5x1.5.1.5 || Lights: DeLighting 2x80w Aquable Special T5 || || Return: 2 x ehiem 1264 || Skimmer: Skimz SM251 || || CR: deltec denitrator || ATO with custom make reservior tank|| || FR: TLF running Rowas ,UV || || Wavemaker: Jebao RE20& RW15|| Chiller: Daikin 1HP Compressor || || Monitor 1: American Marine Pinpoint Temperature monitor || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member jyoon Posted April 14, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted April 14, 2010 Shit!!!! I got mine recently and notice now its a mixture of real and flake pallets. I will go and talk to the place I brought from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuEl Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 http://www.dvh-import.com/Site2/english/NP.html Quote Always something more important than fish. http://reefbuilders.com/2012/03/08/sps-pico-reef/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackywongto Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 could be a QC issue. Quote Eqpt: Deltec MCE 600, Tunze 6055 with Tunze 7091 controller, Artica 1/15 HP chiller, AquaIllumination Sol Blue LED Light System 2011 resolution : Do it simpler, better and in an easier way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member LaW Posted April 14, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted April 14, 2010 http://www.dvh-import.com/Site2/english/NP.html this is not acceptable for the different quality control. simply put, in consistent. if that's the case if its from different manufracturing process of different machine, then why is it still so well mixed in the packet? if the 2 machines' output is in line to the bucket at a portional rate, then it could still be possible to achieve the well mixture. but still, is it really that case? thats a question to ponder about. Quote If a man could beat his own fantasy. Then to only breed in captivity. Then its pointless. Genesis 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that has life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. And God created great whales, and every living creature that moves, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. And the evening and the morning were the fifth day. || Tank: 78" x 30" x 30" || Sump: 48" x 22" x 20" || Lights: PowerModule 10 X 80W|| Returns: 2 x HF32 || || Skimmer: BubbleKing Supermarin 300 || Wavemaker: 3 x 6100 & 1 x 6200, 2 x Wavebox 6212, WavySea || || FR: 2 x FR150 || NR: Sulphur Denitrator || CR: RM Custom Made 8" || KR: Deltec KM500 || TopUp: Tunze Osmolator 3155 || || UV: Coralife 12X 36W || Ozonizer: Sanders C200|| Controller: GHL Profilux Plus II Ex || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member LaW Posted April 14, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted April 14, 2010 this is not acceptable for the different quality control. simply put, in consistent. if that's the case if its from different manufracturing process of different machine, then why is it still so well mixed in the packet? if the 2 machines' output is in line to the bucket at a portional rate, then it could still be possible to achieve the well mixture. but still, is it really that case? thats a question to ponder about. just confirmed, mine was a mixture as well. Quote If a man could beat his own fantasy. Then to only breed in captivity. Then its pointless. Genesis 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that has life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. And God created great whales, and every living creature that moves, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. And the evening and the morning were the fifth day. || Tank: 78" x 30" x 30" || Sump: 48" x 22" x 20" || Lights: PowerModule 10 X 80W|| Returns: 2 x HF32 || || Skimmer: BubbleKing Supermarin 300 || Wavemaker: 3 x 6100 & 1 x 6200, 2 x Wavebox 6212, WavySea || || FR: 2 x FR150 || NR: Sulphur Denitrator || CR: RM Custom Made 8" || KR: Deltec KM500 || TopUp: Tunze Osmolator 3155 || || UV: Coralife 12X 36W || Ozonizer: Sanders C200|| Controller: GHL Profilux Plus II Ex || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member jyoon Posted April 14, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted April 14, 2010 Furthermore this is not like a cheap product (to me). Quality is very important. Let's see what the shop will do as I had send the shop I brought from a message. Luckily I have not start using. Still in the seal bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowtang Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 I bought mine from west coast area. any problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member teebs Posted April 15, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted April 15, 2010 On the left side you see the normal shaped NP Reducing BioPellets. On the right side you see the odd shaped NP Reducing BioPellets. Picture of the 2 shapes of NP Reducing BioPellets in the package. What to do: If your skimmer stops working when you have added the NP Reducing BioPellets and you have 2 shapes of NP Reducing BioPellets, contact the store where you bought the NP Reducing BioPellets for more information to solve this problem. What you can do in the mean time: 1.) Take out the NP Reducing BioPellets till you contacted the store and helped you solve the problem or 2.) Sort out the 2 shapes of BioPellets and put only with oval shaped pellets back in to the system, not the square ones. Do contact the store where you bought the NP Reducing BioPellets. Quote My Setup: 3x2x2 tank with IOS Equipment List: Chiller: Artica 1/5HP Chiller Pump: Sicce 4000 Return Pump: OR3500 Skimmer: Deltec APF600 Wavemaker: Tunze Wavebox/2x Hydor K2/SCWD wavemaker Lights: DElighting 2x150W MH + 2x 39W T5 Atinic FR: Skimz FR Pump: Atman AT-104 Tubby ATO, Kalkweisser Reactor with magnetic stirrer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member peacemaker Posted April 15, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted April 15, 2010 Does the fake pellet cause any harm to the reef tank? Edit: I read the link and it states that it is not harmful to the livestock. Didn't mention anything about corals though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member teebs Posted April 15, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted April 15, 2010 Does the fake pellet cause any harm to the reef tank? Edit: I read the link and it states that it is not harmful to the livestock. Didn't mention anything about corals though... According to what I found out, it does not affect corals. Quote My Setup: 3x2x2 tank with IOS Equipment List: Chiller: Artica 1/5HP Chiller Pump: Sicce 4000 Return Pump: OR3500 Skimmer: Deltec APF600 Wavemaker: Tunze Wavebox/2x Hydor K2/SCWD wavemaker Lights: DElighting 2x150W MH + 2x 39W T5 Atinic FR: Skimz FR Pump: Atman AT-104 Tubby ATO, Kalkweisser Reactor with magnetic stirrer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member fatbike Posted April 15, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted April 15, 2010 hi guys, new in dis forum,am oso a bio pellet user, tink the maker of dis type of "cheong" bio pellet will keep improving his "cheong" pellets making us harder to split(differenciate) the pellets, meaning now we can split but maybe 1yr down the road we mite not. cos hk too near china, n u guys sud c china products, damn scary to c how fast they can duplicate n improve something, hope not from china.. guess now still can use but next time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member teebs Posted April 16, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted April 16, 2010 hi guys, new in dis forum,am oso a bio pellet user, tink the maker of dis type of "cheong" bio pellet will keep improving his "cheong" pellets making us harder to split(differenciate) the pellets, meaning now we can split but maybe 1yr down the road we mite not. cos hk too near china, n u guys sud c china products, damn scary to c how fast they can duplicate n improve something, hope not from china.. guess now still can use but next time... I'm very sure you didn't read the entire thread. Both types of pellets are made by NP Bio Pellets. Only thing is that the "cheong" type of NP Biopellets that you see in your package now was not meant for hobbist use. Of course in future, you may see "cheong" NP Biopellets from China and made by companies in China but currently, the "cheong" pellets that you see are not fake products. Quote My Setup: 3x2x2 tank with IOS Equipment List: Chiller: Artica 1/5HP Chiller Pump: Sicce 4000 Return Pump: OR3500 Skimmer: Deltec APF600 Wavemaker: Tunze Wavebox/2x Hydor K2/SCWD wavemaker Lights: DElighting 2x150W MH + 2x 39W T5 Atinic FR: Skimz FR Pump: Atman AT-104 Tubby ATO, Kalkweisser Reactor with magnetic stirrer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member fatbike Posted April 16, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted April 16, 2010 True bro, totally agree, but what I meant is dat i hope in future no1 wud make something dat look the same yet not suitable. Agree dat currently no harm done, but will there b a day in future dat a manufaturer put plastics worth oni afew bucks n sell it at current price 4 quick bucks, but still true, no harm if it's plastic which dosent melt, but do hope to have update from any pro here cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenkoh08 Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 whenever those media stuff like this with good comments, those creatures out they'll think of something to make some quick cash before this news went bust like bio-home plus, mrotoki bio ring(japan), deni pellet and now this don't be suprise in our further future all will be almost the same likewise equipment it like a market i copy from you thereafter you copy from me, in the end all will look almost the same with the same standard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member fatbike Posted April 16, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted April 16, 2010 Ya ppl who suffers are at the bottom like us(consumers), not to say retailers, cos tink retailers gotta face many customers, mayb some unreasonable customers... Luckily the shop dat i bot it from ask me to wait 4 new shipment to come to exchange, btw today saw afew pack of 500ml not mixed, guess 1L got more risk of getting the mixed ones cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper78 Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Sharks, all my 1L of biopellet in water already. I took some pics of the biopellet before i actually place it in. Any kind soul can help to ID if it is mixed? Quote Tank Size: 3 x 3 x 2 with 3.5ft cabinet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackywongto Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Sharks, all my 1L of biopellet in water already. I took some pics of the biopellet before i actually place it in. Any kind soul can help to ID if it is mixed? wah... reaper..... you testing this old man's eye sight..... seems like yours are ok. no mixture. Quote Eqpt: Deltec MCE 600, Tunze 6055 with Tunze 7091 controller, Artica 1/15 HP chiller, AquaIllumination Sol Blue LED Light System 2011 resolution : Do it simpler, better and in an easier way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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