Question on Sump

[bkburger]

Hi, newbie here, just need to know can a sump tank be without any partition? I mean a Tank just filled with water and place the Bio Ring / Coral Sand...at one side than the return pump at the other end, will it do?

[qwertman321]

that makes it a refugerium , for u to put DSB and plants

A sump make use of the partition to force the water through the filter medias thus filtering the water.

[qwertman321]

lol i put wrong emoticon

[bkburger]

Tq. I have seen some LFS placing those bio ring inside the fish tank, they just put the ring inside a bag and dump it inside the tank, do you think this work?

[qwertman321]

depends on the flowrate, the higher the better <<< what toking me?? singlish LOL!!!

[bkburger]

errrr, no i dont mean they put it inside the sump tank, they just simply place the bag of bio ring inisde the MAIN tank, beside looking ugly, does it help in filtering this way? Tq

[richreef]

errrr, no i dont mean they put it inside the sump tank, they just simply place the bag of bio ring inisde the MAIN tank, beside looking ugly, does it help in filtering this way? Tq

dat is the laziest and ignorant way of trying to cultivate bacteria to polish ur water.If you really want to setup a marine tank,there r many gurus here.Seek thier help.2cents worth.

[Solo77]

Relax, hehe. No definite setup for sump but those you saw at lfs, did u see the full setup and also how long it took to mature and stablise . . Also, the stocks are meant for turnover and setup may not be suit serious reefers. Have open concept is good for flexibility but u have to consider bubbles, big particles that might harm yr skimmer, etc. Maybe u just do 2 to 3 partition to separate filter, skimmer and return part.

dat is the laziest and ignorant way of trying to cultivate bacteria to polish ur water.If you really want to setup a marine tank,there r many gurus here.Seek thier help.2cents worth.

[bkburger]

I am not saying i am going to use this way to cultivate bacteria, but i just want to know whether this way work or not, i believe many bro here also like to know if it work or not. I have seen a few LFS at Pasir Ris Farm doing it, they are the old bird, i hope they are not ignorant by doing so.

[bkburger]

Thanks solo77, newbie love the way you answer / help in our question

[Solo77]

Bro, bros here who bothered to advice you are considered good, some might be frank and mean no harm.

[bkburger]

Hi, just check is it possible to use one sump for 2 main tank? Possible? ( I have DIY a Overflow Pipe, thinking of doing another one but use it on the same sump.) Tqqqq

[Solo77]

Definitely but u must do yr home work to ensure the sump can take the water volume when everything stopped. Hope this help.

[hotsoup]

Add on to bro solo77's comment, u need to ensre your down pipe to sump tank is bigger enough to manage the up flow

[Goondoo]

TS,

I do not think there is any right or wrong way, just what you want to achieve.

I have friend that run a DSB main tank, hang on skimmer, a empty sump no partition, with nothing but a filter sock for 4 yrs without changing water (fish only set up). For more sump information or design, you might want to refer to this web.

http://www.melevsreef.com/allmysumps.html

Hope this helps.

[bkburger]

Thank you guys, i have been using Canister for my whole life, first time using sump, so a bit bit sotong.

[St@rdust]

Same here bkburger I'm also a canister user due to the space constraint.I do know the benefits of having overflow is good as it controls water parameter well.

[bkburger]

haha, i use Canister last time cos i travel to china very often, and so i only use China brand, i would say cheap and good, just bought a Atman 106 return pump (4000L/h at S$26) and a Sunsun Jvp-102 wavemaker at S$6,cheap cheap.

Th sumpi go Art Friend and buy some Acrylic plastic and silicon it myself, suoer Ugly but i dont care lah.

[Solo77]

bro, do leak and load test.....acrylic, there should be specialised bond for it, check with exp. reefer here. Good luck and maybe post to show ppl your process. : )

[arcanehacker]

TS,

I do not think there is any right or wrong way, just what you want to achieve.

I have friend that run a DSB main tank, hang on skimmer, a empty sump no partition, with nothing but a filter sock for 4 yrs without changing water (fish only set up). For more sump information or design, you might want to refer to this web.

http://www.melevsreef.com/allmysumps.html

Hope this helps.

Sump with less partition as possible is good.. but for no partition.. might need more work in other ways..

Firstly, one will need a separate refugium. Unless like you mentioned already DBS so might not see the need for that. If not, a first compartment makes sense.

Then one would need something in place to prevent protein skimmer micro-bubbles from entering the main tank.. this can be easily reduced with a decent designed last compartment.

Center no need for any.. good to have space for all other equipments..

[bkburger]

Yes i have tested for leaked, first try 2 part leaked and i touch up and all is well.

Yesterday finally fix the overflow pipe to my 4ft tank, working ok, but should i take the end cap(the part where you pour water in than cap it) away or leave it? Tq

Will do the overflow for my 2ft using the same sump today, will take some pic if possible and post it after all is done.