SRC Member bugattilambo Posted February 2, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted February 2, 2010 Hellos bros and sis need some small advice here I am currently planning to run my resun cl280 chiller for my cube but since I do not want it to kick in often,I need advise on what kinda pump should I get for it as it is recommended to run at 900l/hr(I think ) I would like to know what pump to get the faster one or slower one? thinking of aquabee thanks do not want it to keep on kicking in thanks bros for the input Quote Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or a day, or a year, but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it lasts forever. Member of: www.marineaquarist.sg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member iskay Posted February 2, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted February 2, 2010 My 2 cents. A fast pump will not allow the water to sufficiently reach the desired temp before leaving the cooling chamber. So I think a slower pump will do the trick. CL280 is rated for 500-1000L/Hr I daisy chain mine to an Eheim 2224 that is rated @ 700L/Hr. Kicks in 2 times an hour for about 3 mins. cooling 10 gallons to 26 degrees celcius. Quote "Be formless... shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle; it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot; it becomes the teapot. Water can flow, or it can crash. Be water, my friend..." - Lei Siu Lung (Bruce Lee) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member bugattilambo Posted February 2, 2010 Author SRC Member Share Posted February 2, 2010 My 2 cents. A fast pump will not allow the water to sufficiently reach the desired temp before leaving the cooling chamber. So I think a slower pump will do the trick. CL280 is rated for 500-1000L/Hr I daisy chain mine to an Eheim 2224 that is rated @ 700L/Hr. Kicks in 2 times an hour for about 3 mins. cooling 10 gallons to 26 degrees celcius. hmm so I have two pumps to consider at the moment 1 is the AB 500/AB 1000? thanks Quote Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or a day, or a year, but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it lasts forever. Member of: www.marineaquarist.sg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryz_ Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Get something in between??? Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member bugattilambo Posted February 2, 2010 Author SRC Member Share Posted February 2, 2010 Get something in between??? hahaha nice one bro but then AB only has this two models unless u have other brands to recommend I need it to be quiet hehehe Quote Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or a day, or a year, but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it lasts forever. Member of: www.marineaquarist.sg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryz_ Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Other brands??? Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryz_ Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Can try Maxijet or Hydor? Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member iskay Posted February 2, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted February 2, 2010 The whole equation is not that simple. You also need to take into consideration the heat sources acting on your water - equipment & environment. Keeping your tank away from any avoidable heat source will allow for better cooling efficiency. If only we can keep our tanks insulated like a fridge, we'll be able to save loads on power cost... Quote "Be formless... shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle; it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot; it becomes the teapot. Water can flow, or it can crash. Be water, my friend..." - Lei Siu Lung (Bruce Lee) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryz_ Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 The whole equation is not that simple. You also need to take into consideration the heat sources acting on your water - equipment & environment. Keeping your tank away from any avoidable heat source will allow for better cooling efficiency. If only we can keep our tanks insulated like a fridge, we'll be able to save loads on power cost... Why not get a higher flow pump den control it using ball valve? But you wun know the amt of flow going thru need to trial and errror... I heard using those insulator like those they use for air con to wrap our piping it will help... but dunno to what extent.. Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member iskay Posted February 2, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted February 2, 2010 Why not get a higher flow pump den control it using ball valve? But you wun know the amt of flow going thru need to trial and errror...I heard using those insulator like those they use for air con to wrap our piping it will help... but dunno to what extent.. Bro, Good thinking but here's my 2 cents. If you use ball valve to restrict flow then (1) the ball valve will created friction with the flowing water. Friction creates heat. albeit minimal. (2) your pump is restricted to work to it's full capacity, this will create additional wear and tear to the components and might reduce it's useful life. Insulator will work only for the tubing/piping concerned. If the tubing/piping is short, this gain is negligible. Once the cool water hits the tank, it's cold energy is immediately countered by the room temperature. Quote "Be formless... shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle; it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot; it becomes the teapot. Water can flow, or it can crash. Be water, my friend..." - Lei Siu Lung (Bruce Lee) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member teebs Posted February 2, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted February 2, 2010 Why not get a higher flow pump den control it using ball valve? But you wun know the amt of flow going thru need to trial and errror...I heard using those insulator like those they use for air con to wrap our piping it will help... but dunno to what extent.. The issue with restricting the flow of the pump is that you will end up creating back flow for the pump and that may not be optimal for the pump since the pump will always be trying to pump at the rated flow. A better idea that I'm currently trying is to use a fan to blow at the surface of the sump or you may want to try using an air pump to bubble the water in the sump. Bubbling the water actually cools down the water. Even for return pumps, some people in RC are using air lifts instead of return pumps to save on energy costs and also reduce the heat induced in the sump. Quote My Setup: 3x2x2 tank with IOS Equipment List: Chiller: Artica 1/5HP Chiller Pump: Sicce 4000 Return Pump: OR3500 Skimmer: Deltec APF600 Wavemaker: Tunze Wavebox/2x Hydor K2/SCWD wavemaker Lights: DElighting 2x150W MH + 2x 39W T5 Atinic FR: Skimz FR Pump: Atman AT-104 Tubby ATO, Kalkweisser Reactor with magnetic stirrer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member bugattilambo Posted February 2, 2010 Author SRC Member Share Posted February 2, 2010 Thanks to all bros for their input ya will be sticking on to a chiller nevertheless hahaha have two options now one is to use a hydor L20-> 700l/h or the AB 1000->1000l/h Quote Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or a day, or a year, but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it lasts forever. Member of: www.marineaquarist.sg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member iskay Posted February 2, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted February 2, 2010 I trust Eheim. Quote "Be formless... shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle; it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot; it becomes the teapot. Water can flow, or it can crash. Be water, my friend..." - Lei Siu Lung (Bruce Lee) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member bugattilambo Posted February 3, 2010 Author SRC Member Share Posted February 3, 2010 I trust Eheim. hehehe okie ya decided gonna go with eheim compact 1000 Quote Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or a day, or a year, but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it lasts forever. Member of: www.marineaquarist.sg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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