Desi & Ketchup 4x2.5x2 tank

[Ketchup]

Confirmed is snail eggs... saw one of the snails hatching it last night at another spot.

[qwertman321]

try live cockles for ur powder brown

[Terryz_]

try live cockles for ur powder brown

HUH!!! Cockles for powder brown?

[Ketchup]

try live cockles for ur powder brown

Sure bo... 1st time i heard this leh... not Char Kway Teow leh

[desideria]

i have never heard of live cockles either for tangs well .. you'd never know..

anyway, now the tangs itch seem to have gone away but I know it's in the system all the time..... seems that feeding with Vit C supplements and tons of food seems to work! anyway, the UV is now on 24/7.. hopefully kill SOME Of the bad bacteria...

Cheers

Desi

[cedricang]

i have never heard of live cockles either for tangs well .. you'd never know..

anyway, now the tangs itch seem to have gone away but I know it's in the system all the time..... seems that feeding with Vit C supplements and tons of food seems to work! anyway, the UV is now on 24/7.. hopefully kill SOME Of the bad bacteria...

Cheers

Desi

You are right Desi, I believe it's almost impossible for one to declare an ich free reef tank. Ensuring a stress free and healthy diet environment is the only sure way of maintaining good immunity and thus preventing an outbreak. As i have mentioned to you before, get accustomed to the fact that ich will always be there to trike when given an opportunity. Be cool and try not get too stress over it Sometime, think of what we human world is like and relate to our reef tank, it's pretty much the same.

[jackywongto]

Sometime, think of what we human world is like and relate to our reef tank, it's pretty much the same.

nvr thought of it this way before but hehe.... quite true.

[teebs]

i have never heard of live cockles either for tangs well .. you'd never know..

anyway, now the tangs itch seem to have gone away but I know it's in the system all the time..... seems that feeding with Vit C supplements and tons of food seems to work! anyway, the UV is now on 24/7.. hopefully kill SOME Of the bad bacteria...

Cheers

Desi

Take note that your UV wattage must be suitable for your tank size. Also to be effective, you need a lower flow rate through your UV unit especially if you want to kill bacteria in the water column.

[m12345y]

ich just makes your reefing experience more complete

[comycus]

Since most of us don't practice the correct method of quarantine, our tanks are normally not ich free. The fishes just get more resistance to ich. That's why new fishes added into our tank gets ich, coz their resistance is lower.

Most impt is to keep our fishes healthy, fighting fit and in a stress free environment. Like us, when our body condition is strong, we won't succumb to the normal flu bug etc. But if we get stressed at work, don't get enough sleep etc. then more prone to falling sick. Sama sama analogy

[TayHongSiang]

Since most of us don't practice the correct method of quarantine, our tanks are normally not ich free. The fishes just get more resistance to ich. That's why new fishes added into our tank gets ich, coz their resistance is lower.

Most impt is to keep our fishes healthy, fighting fit and in a stress free environment. Like us, when our body condition is strong, we won't succumb to the normal flu bug etc. But if we get stressed at work, don't get enough sleep etc. then more prone to falling sick. Sama sama analogy

and plus not enough sex..also will make us prone to sickness...

[desideria]

Ah siang... .. as usual has lots of words of wisdom.. compared to everyone else.. but yes, I am feeding pellets ANd flakes AND frozen food soaked in garlic guard everyday... occasionally Dr Bassler's forte pellets and flakes to boost them up... and now also with Vit C supplements although I did read up that once you start on vit C you can't stop so what the hell.. DOSE la! I don't know whether it was timing or whether dosing it really worked but the itch "seemed" to clear up about 4 days after I started squirting it in on a daily basis.....

Or maybe it could be because I removed the PBRT from the display to the sump.. so fishes don't get too stressed with a non eating fish. Btw, update on him.. Day 18 and I have yet to see a grain of food pass INTO his mouth...

Yeah for THE UV, the flow rate is slow as I connected it to the output pipe of the chilller ( and since now I shifted my chiller OUTSIDE.. the length of pipe leading to the chiller and coming back into my sump is even LONGER and slows down the flow rate even more) and I got the CORALIFE Turbo twist 6X (18W) one meant for 250G tank which i think is just right for my tank size (about 200G). Whether it works or not, I do not know but I guess it just AIDS in killing the bacteria ... hopefully MORE bad ones than good ones but it's a risk I am prepared to take... I just have to remember to turn it off for 24-48 hours everytime I dose my bact! Otherwise throw in, then all DIE.. $$$ fly!

Cheers,

Desi

[comycus]

I am feeding pellets ANd flakes AND frozen food soaked in garlic guard everyday... occasionally Dr Bassler's forte pellets and flakes to boost them up...

lol sounds like me. I used to feed 10+ different kinds of food, just to get my fish feeding...

I've since cut down to nls and Dainichi Marine pellets. btw Desi, the pellet food I was talking about the other day over lunch was Dainichi from RD.

[desideria]

Hey comycus

Yeah I have that too.. Dainichi pellets are in my auto feeder (also have some Grotech pellets in there) which drop everyday at 3pm. LOL manual feeding pellets are Ocean Nutrion Form 1 & 2 and Dr Basslers. in the morning before I run off to work and once again AFTER the forzen food ritual at night about 9pm.

Btw, will call you again next time I go Hillview. too bad on sunday we could not admire your tank.. hee hee... I don't regularly go back since no car as my parents would come to me and ketchup instead.

Cheers,

Desi.

[jackywongto]

Is your pbrt still surviving?

does tang takes in live pods?

or maybe rotifiers ?

[teebs]

Is your pbrt still surviving?

does tang takes in live pods?

or maybe rotifiers ?

Tangs take live pods, live brine shrimps etc.

[jackywongto]

Tangs take live pods, live brine shrimps etc.

Desi, if the tigger live pods can help to keep him alive, let me know.

I still have 1 bottle with me.

[kanegan]

Hi Desi and Ketchup,

Sorry to hear about the PBRT but how do you know that the fish is not eating at all?

One of my fish doesn't eat when I am in front of the tank...

[comycus]

Btw, will call you again next time I go Hillview. too bad on sunday we could not admire your tank.. hee hee... I don't regularly go back since no car as my parents would come to me and ketchup instead.

yeah so sorry about Sun, left the house earlier than expected.

Anyway you didn't miss much, unless you want to admire red slime and macro algae lol

Give me some time to rebuild the tank...

[kanegan]

Hi Desi and Ketchup,

Sorry to hear about the PBRT but how do you know that the fish is not eating at all?

One of my fish doesn't eat when I am in front of the tank...

Oh and another thing..don't mean to scare you... did you check for parasites on or in the fish's mouth?

[desideria]

how do you check for parasites in the fish's mouth? Is there actually a WAY? if there is, PLEASE please tell me!

I dunno what it's eating honestly... it's skinny like siow.. I throw everythign in at one go, oyster eggs, rotifeast, tiggerpods, Arctipods in my frozen food mixture everyday.. so who knows? Maybe my nutrient rich water DOES Help.... Haiz..

Desi

[comycus]

Sometimes it's just impossible to wean a fish to processed food, sucks but have to accept that.

Hope yours starts feeding soon though!

[Terryz_]

Have you tried seaweed on clip or lettuce on clip?

[kanegan]

Yeah.. sometimes the fish is already sick and refuses to eat. But it can't hurt to try.

Does the fish look stressed? Gills and mouth puffing very rapidly?

I have seen nightmarish photos of isopods that latch on inside the mouth of the fish online before...

If you think it is in danger of dying anyway, do you want to try and inspect the mouth?

[Terryz_]

Yeah.. sometimes the fish is already sick and refuses to eat. But it can't hurt to try.

Does the fish look stressed? Gills and mouth puffing very rapidly?

I have seen nightmarish photos of isopods that latch on inside the mouth of the fish online before...

If you think it is in danger of dying anyway, do you want to try and inspect the mouth?

I tot that only happen to large fishes? It is really disgusting when you look at the isopod that latches on the tongue of the big fishes...