advice needed

[deimos8]

dear sifusss,

as i m converting my 3.5L x 1.5W x 2H IOS (with bracing on 4 side )to marine tank as i wanna keep as simple as possible (w/o chiller , w/o skimmer as no place to put the skimmer ).Juuz wanna chk hw many KG og LR can put in my tank??? n hw many fish to keep???

thanks in advance

[mopiko]

dear sifusss,

as i m converting my 3.5L x 1.5W x 2H IOS to marine tank as i wanna keep as simple as possible (w/o chiller , w/o skimmer as no place to put the skimmer ).Juuz wanna chk hw many KG og LR can put in my tank??? n hw many fish to keep???

thanks in advance

hi bro welcome to reefing.

most importantly you need to ensure your tank thickness can withstand the pressure of the salt water. salt water create more pressure compared to fresh water tank.

its possible to keep fish only with live rocks without chiller but be quite hard to keep corals with chiller. unless the system is very matured with well balanced ecosystem and plenty of live rocks, i would say skimmer is the heart beat of marine tank and infact a must.

how much live rocks to use is up to you. good live rocks provides good bacteria to keep the system stable and provide the tank mates with hiding space.

this hobby requires money, time and commitment. i would strongly advise you to read up more in this forum and seek fellow experienced reefers advice as well. start right and you will enjoy the hobby for more than starting it on a wrong foot.

[deimos8]

hi bro welcome to reefing.

most importantly you need to ensure your tank thickness can withstand the pressure of the salt water. salt water create more pressure compared to fresh water tank.

its possible to keep fish only with live rocks without chiller but be quite hard to keep corals with chiller. unless the system is very matured with well balanced ecosystem and plenty of live rocks, i would say skimmer is the heart beat of marine tank and infact a must.

how much live rocks to use is up to you. good live rocks provides good bacteria to keep the system stable and provide the tank mates with hiding space.

this hobby requires money, time and commitment. i would strongly advise you to read up more in this forum and seek fellow experienced reefers advice as well. start right and you will enjoy the hobby for more than starting it on a wrong foot.

i have actually briefly read thru as i gt a 14" marine tank right nw n already learnt some lessons eg getting livestock too soon...............................thickness of my new tank is 10mm with chengai stand (2 tier tank) i understand most corals need a chiller problem nw is the temp of my tank is ard 31.4 degrees.as for skimmer i got bracing all round is there any clip on skimmer tat i can clip onto the bracing???

anyway thanks for yr advice.........................

[teebs]

i have actually briefly read thru as i gt a 14" marine tank right nw n already learnt some lessons eg getting livestock too soon...............................thickness of my new tank is 10mm with chengai stand (2 tier tank) i understand most corals need a chiller problem nw is the temp of my tank is ard 31.4 degrees.as for skimmer i got bracing all round is there any clip on skimmer tat i can clip onto the bracing???

anyway thanks for yr advice.........................

For skimmer, you can get either an in tank skimmer(Tunze 9002, 9005, 9010 etc) or a Hang on Skimmer (Red Sea Prizm, AquaC Remora, Deltec MCE300, MCE600 etc).

[deimos8]

For skimmer, you can get either an in tank skimmer(Tunze 9002, 9005, 9010 etc) or a Hang on Skimmer (Red Sea Prizm, AquaC Remora, Deltec MCE300, MCE600 etc).

thanks alot...................................at least i knw tats an in tank skimmer tat i can use..................................

[Solo77]

someone selling in the forum, $350 and yet negotiable.....act fast before it is gone for good....

[deimos8]

someone selling in the forum, $350 and yet negotiable.....act fast before it is gone for good....

thanks bro solo....................................

[teebs]

thanks bro solo....................................

tats the Deltec MCE600...

[deimos8]

tats the Deltec MCE600...

bro is tis skimmer tat i can place inside my tank as i gt no sump tank.

[teebs]

bro is tis skimmer tat i can place inside my tank as i gt no sump tank.

tats the hang on back skimmer. Inlet of the skimmer will be in your tank. Pumps and everything else will be behind your tank. You will need at least a 4 in clearance behind your tank to install this skimmer. A cheaper skimmer will be the red sea prizm but performance wise, it isn't as good as the mce600.

[mopiko]

bro is tis skimmer tat i can place inside my tank as i gt no sump tank.

it can hang my side of the tank

[deimos8]

it can hang my side of the tank

sigh............................i gt no space to hang on as both side r occupied with cabinet..........................doing more water change can i go w/o a skimmer???????????? as i m using a normal 20watt single tube light do i need gt it change ???

[jackywongto]

sigh............................i gt no space to hang on as both side r occupied with cabinet..........................doing more water change can i go w/o a skimmer????????????

helps if u can post some pics of the tank and cabinet

[teebs]

U have a 3x1,5x2 ft tank so it would be near impossible for you to go without a skimmer bacause you will need to do very frequent water changes if you do not use a skimmer...

The hang on skimmers can be hung at the back of your tank. Otherwise you can get the Tunze skimmers that are in tank skimmers, meaning you place them inside your tank.

[deimos8]

helps if u can post some pics of the tank and cabinet

[deimos8]

U have a 3x1,5x2 ft tank so it would be near impossible for you to go without a skimmer bacause you will need to do very frequent water changes if you do not use a skimmer...

The hang on skimmers can be hung at the back of your tank. Otherwise you can get the Tunze skimmers that are in tank skimmers, meaning you place them inside your tank.

tats wat i am looking for.......................................skimmer tat can be place inside the tank...........................

[andylee]

You can either pull out the stand and hang skimmer at the back, or convert the bottom tank into sump/holding tank.

Just make a space for skimmer, if not ur fishes very stressed cos poor water quality.

[deimos8]

You can either pull out the stand and hang skimmer at the back, or convert the bottom tank into sump/holding tank.

Just make a space for skimmer, if not ur fishes very stressed cos poor water quality.

noted.............................ty

[teebs]

noted.............................ty

If you are getting the Deltec MCE skimmers, take note that you must have at least 4" clearance behind or at the side of the tank where you are hanging it. For Deltec, the MC500 model can be mounted INSIDE the tank.

[jackywongto]

If you are getting the Deltec MCE skimmers, take note that you must have at least 4" clearance behind or at the side of the tank where you are hanging it. For Deltec, the MC500 model can be mounted INSIDE the tank.

same for both 300 & 600 ,Peter?

[teebs]

same for both 300 & 600 ,Peter?

Yes, size wise, 300 and 600 are almost the same.

[deimos8]

Yes, size wise, 300 and 600 are almost the same.

thanks bro peter......................

[teebs]

The dimensions of the Deltec skimmers are in the link below:

http://www.theaquariumsolution.com/files/D...imensions_2.pdf

[fishiee]

Oh well, here's my 2 cents worth. There are some things that you cannot go without if you want to keep a marine tank. I know you all may have heard of people keeping a skimmerless reef tank and so on, but those people have gone through a lot of experimentation and research to get their tank to run without the vital pieces of equipment.

A skimmer for a reef tank helps a lot, even a small one. You want to consider hang on back or in-tank skimmers if you say you have no space. Choices are, but not limited to these brands: reef octopus, red sea primz and boyu. I would sugguest the reef octopus hang on back BH1000.

As for the chiller, I have a simpler alternative - the fan. I use fans to cool my 2 foot reef tank and they have been doing a fine job of it (i use 12V computer fans, connected to a transformer (the set up cost around 10 bucks), there are other fans built specifically for aquarium use though). Energy saving, low cost. Just be sure to keep a spare fan set in case the ones you use break down. The evaporation is a killer though. I have to pour 1.5 l of water into my 80 l tank every day! But for the savings, it is worth it. In saying so, you must also be careful with the equipment you put into your tank if you plan to cool it by fans. Fans do not boast the cooling power of a chiller, so items such as metal halide lighting is not an option for your tank. You will have to use T5 or compact f. tubes.

[deimos8]

A skimmer for a reef tank helps a lot, even a small one. You want to consider hang on back or in-tank skimmers if you say you have no space. Choices are, but not limited to these brands: reef octopus, red sea primz and boyu. I would sugguest the reef octopus hang on back BH1000.

tats wat i m advice by brossss here n the LFS i m going to get a in tank skimmer soon......................

As for the chiller, I have a simpler alternative - the fan. I use fans to cool my 2 foot reef tank and they have been doing a fine job of it (i use 12V computer fans, connected to a transformer (the set up cost around 10 bucks), there are other fans built specifically for aquarium use though). Energy saving, low cost. Just be sure to keep a spare fan set in case the ones you use break down. The evaporation is a killer though. I have to pour 1.5 l of water into my 80 l tank every day! But for the savings, it is worth it. In saying so, you must also be careful with the equipment you put into your tank if you plan to cool it by fans. Fans do not boast the cooling power of a chiller, so items such as metal halide lighting is not an option for your tank. You will have to use T5 or compact f. tubes.