SRC Member andylee Posted October 8, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted October 8, 2009 Been hearing LPS cannot too high flow, cannot too little flow, moderate flow, blah blah blah Any figures on how high / low / moderate? What's the flowrate not to be exceeded if u dont wanna lose your LPS? What wavemaker you use? flowrate? Please indicate, do you include the flowrate of return pump plus wavemaker current flow? Quote Project R.E. Main Tank: 48" x 18" x 24" 12mm with external overflow piping Sump Tank: 28" x 14.5" x 12" (3 compartments) Lightings: T5 HO - Hopar 3* 39w + ATI 2* 54w Skimmer: Skimz Bullet Beckett Chiller: Resun CL-650 (28 - 29 °C) Wavemakers: 2* Seio M620 + 1* Hydor K2 (7100 litre / hr) Fluidized Reactor: Skimz FR (currently empty) Pumps: 1x Rio 32HF (Skimmer), 1x Rio 20HF (Return & Chiller) Filtration: more than 80kg LRs, chaeto Water Circulation: ~ 4000 litre / hr Future Plans: additional wavemaker, DIY algae scrubber, DIY overflow box Previously: Project R : 36" x 12" x 24" 10mm reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member [V]tEc Posted October 8, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted October 8, 2009 Been hearing LPS cannot too high flow, cannot too little flow, moderate flow, blah blah blah Any figures on how high / low / moderate? What's the flowrate not to be exceeded if u dont wanna lose your LPS? What wavemaker you use? flowrate? Please indicate, do you include the flowrate of return pump plus wavemaker current flow? there is no fix rule on flowrate....diff tank diff scaping need diff flowrate....best is get those controllable kind. u can increase or decrease the flowrate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member teebs Posted October 8, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted October 8, 2009 Been hearing LPS cannot too high flow, cannot too little flow, moderate flow, blah blah blah Any figures on how high / low / moderate? What's the flowrate not to be exceeded if u dont wanna lose your LPS? What wavemaker you use? flowrate? Please indicate, do you include the flowrate of return pump plus wavemaker current flow? For LPS, I would say a safe flow rate would be 10-20 times your tank size. This would be based on wavemaker flow only. Quote My Setup: 3x2x2 tank with IOS Equipment List: Chiller: Artica 1/5HP Chiller Pump: Sicce 4000 Return Pump: OR3500 Skimmer: Deltec APF600 Wavemaker: Tunze Wavebox/2x Hydor K2/SCWD wavemaker Lights: DElighting 2x150W MH + 2x 39W T5 Atinic FR: Skimz FR Pump: Atman AT-104 Tubby ATO, Kalkweisser Reactor with magnetic stirrer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member andylee Posted October 9, 2009 Author SRC Member Share Posted October 9, 2009 My main tank 300 litre, so i will need 6000 lph? will cause turbulence? Quote Project R.E. Main Tank: 48" x 18" x 24" 12mm with external overflow piping Sump Tank: 28" x 14.5" x 12" (3 compartments) Lightings: T5 HO - Hopar 3* 39w + ATI 2* 54w Skimmer: Skimz Bullet Beckett Chiller: Resun CL-650 (28 - 29 °C) Wavemakers: 2* Seio M620 + 1* Hydor K2 (7100 litre / hr) Fluidized Reactor: Skimz FR (currently empty) Pumps: 1x Rio 32HF (Skimmer), 1x Rio 20HF (Return & Chiller) Filtration: more than 80kg LRs, chaeto Water Circulation: ~ 4000 litre / hr Future Plans: additional wavemaker, DIY algae scrubber, DIY overflow box Previously: Project R : 36" x 12" x 24" 10mm reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member teebs Posted October 9, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted October 9, 2009 My main tank 300 litre, so i will need 6000 lph? will cause turbulence? If you are afraid of turbulence, then use 2-3 wavemakers placed at different areas of your tank to create the currents. Quote My Setup: 3x2x2 tank with IOS Equipment List: Chiller: Artica 1/5HP Chiller Pump: Sicce 4000 Return Pump: OR3500 Skimmer: Deltec APF600 Wavemaker: Tunze Wavebox/2x Hydor K2/SCWD wavemaker Lights: DElighting 2x150W MH + 2x 39W T5 Atinic FR: Skimz FR Pump: Atman AT-104 Tubby ATO, Kalkweisser Reactor with magnetic stirrer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member angelfishlover Posted October 9, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted October 9, 2009 I use one main pump which is the big seio 1600 and 2 seio 820 to accompany the seio 1600 to make currents in my 3ft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member andylee Posted October 10, 2009 Author SRC Member Share Posted October 10, 2009 Anymore feedbacks? Quote Project R.E. Main Tank: 48" x 18" x 24" 12mm with external overflow piping Sump Tank: 28" x 14.5" x 12" (3 compartments) Lightings: T5 HO - Hopar 3* 39w + ATI 2* 54w Skimmer: Skimz Bullet Beckett Chiller: Resun CL-650 (28 - 29 °C) Wavemakers: 2* Seio M620 + 1* Hydor K2 (7100 litre / hr) Fluidized Reactor: Skimz FR (currently empty) Pumps: 1x Rio 32HF (Skimmer), 1x Rio 20HF (Return & Chiller) Filtration: more than 80kg LRs, chaeto Water Circulation: ~ 4000 litre / hr Future Plans: additional wavemaker, DIY algae scrubber, DIY overflow box Previously: Project R : 36" x 12" x 24" 10mm reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member demonsori Posted October 11, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted October 11, 2009 if the spread of the flow is not direct then i think no problem for lps... my mushrooms, yumas and hammer corals seem to be comfortable in my 180 litre tank with hydor k3 aimed at back glass and k nano aimed at corals... total about 4000 litres per hour and 22 times turnover just by these 2 wavemakers... current by prizm skimmer negligible and i didn't include my 800litre per hour hangon filter...been using hydor wavemakers with no prob so far...the volume per hour might seem too strong but its all spread out and uni-directional so the hammer coral only waves gently.. --one impt note is the amount of live rock and structure also...if u have alot of rock then a larger turnover is needed....same if the rocks are stacked densely and especially against the glass... alot of water movement is lost.... just my noobie experience.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member moron_clown Posted October 13, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted October 13, 2009 for me i justmove them until they "look" happy and leave them there, moving the corals around is easir than moving pumps around. I'm using 2X6100 + 2X6055 + 3Xk2 in my 3X2.5X2 total over 100X turnover but i still can find dead spots.. Quote Reef Journal Gf's 6ft FOWLR My previous 4X2X2.5 (Retired) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member andylee Posted October 13, 2009 Author SRC Member Share Posted October 13, 2009 for me i justmove them until they "look" happy and leave them there, moving the corals around is easir than moving pumps around. I'm using 2X6100 + 2X6055 + 3Xk2 in my 3X2.5X2 total over 100X turnover but i still can find dead spots.. won't it be too much for LPS only? or u keeping sps as well? i now got return of total about 4000 litre per hr tee off in 2 directions at the back blowing at the tank front panel, and a 2400 litre per hr seio 620 at back corner blowing to diagonal to front. Mushies seems to be like blowing off already. Quote Project R.E. Main Tank: 48" x 18" x 24" 12mm with external overflow piping Sump Tank: 28" x 14.5" x 12" (3 compartments) Lightings: T5 HO - Hopar 3* 39w + ATI 2* 54w Skimmer: Skimz Bullet Beckett Chiller: Resun CL-650 (28 - 29 °C) Wavemakers: 2* Seio M620 + 1* Hydor K2 (7100 litre / hr) Fluidized Reactor: Skimz FR (currently empty) Pumps: 1x Rio 32HF (Skimmer), 1x Rio 20HF (Return & Chiller) Filtration: more than 80kg LRs, chaeto Water Circulation: ~ 4000 litre / hr Future Plans: additional wavemaker, DIY algae scrubber, DIY overflow box Previously: Project R : 36" x 12" x 24" 10mm reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyBoy Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Flow rates depend on type of LPS, tank size etc. Can put higher flowrate at the top, and medium of about 4000l/h at the medium level. Quote Member of : UEN: T08SS0098FMASS in Facebook Reefing in LED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member andylee Posted October 13, 2009 Author SRC Member Share Posted October 13, 2009 Pic for reference. frogspawn and hammer in the centre doesnt wave much, but those mushies on the sandbed looks ready to be blown off and detached. Quote Project R.E. Main Tank: 48" x 18" x 24" 12mm with external overflow piping Sump Tank: 28" x 14.5" x 12" (3 compartments) Lightings: T5 HO - Hopar 3* 39w + ATI 2* 54w Skimmer: Skimz Bullet Beckett Chiller: Resun CL-650 (28 - 29 °C) Wavemakers: 2* Seio M620 + 1* Hydor K2 (7100 litre / hr) Fluidized Reactor: Skimz FR (currently empty) Pumps: 1x Rio 32HF (Skimmer), 1x Rio 20HF (Return & Chiller) Filtration: more than 80kg LRs, chaeto Water Circulation: ~ 4000 litre / hr Future Plans: additional wavemaker, DIY algae scrubber, DIY overflow box Previously: Project R : 36" x 12" x 24" 10mm reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyBoy Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Pic for reference. frogspawn and hammer in the centre doesnt wave much, but those mushies on the sandbed looks ready to be blown off and detached. mushies can tahan the wave unless your wave is always consistant flow directing at them. Quote Member of : UEN: T08SS0098FMASS in Facebook Reefing in LED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member andylee Posted October 13, 2009 Author SRC Member Share Posted October 13, 2009 i guess the flow at the mushies is from the return pipe Quote Project R.E. Main Tank: 48" x 18" x 24" 12mm with external overflow piping Sump Tank: 28" x 14.5" x 12" (3 compartments) Lightings: T5 HO - Hopar 3* 39w + ATI 2* 54w Skimmer: Skimz Bullet Beckett Chiller: Resun CL-650 (28 - 29 °C) Wavemakers: 2* Seio M620 + 1* Hydor K2 (7100 litre / hr) Fluidized Reactor: Skimz FR (currently empty) Pumps: 1x Rio 32HF (Skimmer), 1x Rio 20HF (Return & Chiller) Filtration: more than 80kg LRs, chaeto Water Circulation: ~ 4000 litre / hr Future Plans: additional wavemaker, DIY algae scrubber, DIY overflow box Previously: Project R : 36" x 12" x 24" 10mm reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyBoy Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 i guess the flow at the mushies is from the return pipe Cannot also coz return pipe flow is very constant. Unless the flow is not too fast. Quote Member of : UEN: T08SS0098FMASS in Facebook Reefing in LED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member andylee Posted November 6, 2009 Author SRC Member Share Posted November 6, 2009 Guys, say if my frogspawn, hammer, mushies caught the rebounded or deflected wave off the tank wall, is the wave considered strong? I now using 2x seio 620 2400lph wavemaker at both corners, blow towards the centre of front wall. Trajectory seems like deflected wave is directed at the corals from their front. Will that be a problem? Quote Project R.E. Main Tank: 48" x 18" x 24" 12mm with external overflow piping Sump Tank: 28" x 14.5" x 12" (3 compartments) Lightings: T5 HO - Hopar 3* 39w + ATI 2* 54w Skimmer: Skimz Bullet Beckett Chiller: Resun CL-650 (28 - 29 °C) Wavemakers: 2* Seio M620 + 1* Hydor K2 (7100 litre / hr) Fluidized Reactor: Skimz FR (currently empty) Pumps: 1x Rio 32HF (Skimmer), 1x Rio 20HF (Return & Chiller) Filtration: more than 80kg LRs, chaeto Water Circulation: ~ 4000 litre / hr Future Plans: additional wavemaker, DIY algae scrubber, DIY overflow box Previously: Project R : 36" x 12" x 24" 10mm reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherman Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 I think as long as the flow is not direct at the coral but reflected off the glass plane should be ok. Quote 6.5 * 2 * 2 + 3.75 * 1.5 *1.5,(Decomn on 14/9/08) 4*2*2 + 2.5*1.25*1.25 (Decomn on 1/8/09) 5*2*2 (Fully LED light system, 140 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm) 2.5*2*2(Fully LED Light System,96 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm) 5*2.5*2(LED only) Eheim return 1 * pump 1 HP Daikin compressor with cooling coil 2 Jebao OW40, 1 ecotech MP40, 1X6085 Tunze wm, 1 CURVE 7 Skimmer 1 DIY 80 led control by Bluefish mini 1 radion XR30W G2, 2 Radion XR15G3 Sump area lite by 5 ft T5 , 6 * SSC 3 watt red LED for refugium 1 Full spectrum E27 led light 1 CR control by bubble count Start No Water Change since 1st Dec 2016 Add new 2.5x2x 1.5 ft [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member comycus Posted November 6, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted November 6, 2009 will be visible if they are not happy with the flow. They will recede and you see only skeleton even when lights are on. I agree with Sherman. As long as flow is deflected off glass, should be fine. They can handle quite high flow. Quote My old 3ft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member andylee Posted November 8, 2009 Author SRC Member Share Posted November 8, 2009 when lights are on they're extended, but not as big cos the wave like keep blowing them back against their skeleton. not sure whether this is healthy in the long run Quote Project R.E. Main Tank: 48" x 18" x 24" 12mm with external overflow piping Sump Tank: 28" x 14.5" x 12" (3 compartments) Lightings: T5 HO - Hopar 3* 39w + ATI 2* 54w Skimmer: Skimz Bullet Beckett Chiller: Resun CL-650 (28 - 29 °C) Wavemakers: 2* Seio M620 + 1* Hydor K2 (7100 litre / hr) Fluidized Reactor: Skimz FR (currently empty) Pumps: 1x Rio 32HF (Skimmer), 1x Rio 20HF (Return & Chiller) Filtration: more than 80kg LRs, chaeto Water Circulation: ~ 4000 litre / hr Future Plans: additional wavemaker, DIY algae scrubber, DIY overflow box Previously: Project R : 36" x 12" x 24" 10mm reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenkoh08 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 i use two 6000l wave maker but on in interval timing by switching timer one one for 2min the other on for 15s so there is no dead spot in my three feet tank and the main pump is rio 27 if i'm not wroong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member andylee Posted November 9, 2009 Author SRC Member Share Posted November 9, 2009 mine non controllable leh. using 2x seio 620 and 1x hydor K2. kinda strong total 7100 lph. but as long as the tentacles are still extended out from skeleton, not retracted totally, it's fine right? only they're blown against their skeleton Quote Project R.E. Main Tank: 48" x 18" x 24" 12mm with external overflow piping Sump Tank: 28" x 14.5" x 12" (3 compartments) Lightings: T5 HO - Hopar 3* 39w + ATI 2* 54w Skimmer: Skimz Bullet Beckett Chiller: Resun CL-650 (28 - 29 °C) Wavemakers: 2* Seio M620 + 1* Hydor K2 (7100 litre / hr) Fluidized Reactor: Skimz FR (currently empty) Pumps: 1x Rio 32HF (Skimmer), 1x Rio 20HF (Return & Chiller) Filtration: more than 80kg LRs, chaeto Water Circulation: ~ 4000 litre / hr Future Plans: additional wavemaker, DIY algae scrubber, DIY overflow box Previously: Project R : 36" x 12" x 24" 10mm reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedricang Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 The choice of a wave maker flow rate in a LPS nominated tank really depends on the dimension and scape of the rock work where the LPS are being placed. Generally, LPS needs around a flow rate of 1K-5k flow (depending of species ) that is directly surrounding them. You can have a feel of it by looking at how the small particles in your tank that is flowing across the corals and have a gauge. As long as the LPS are gently moving and swaying, that should be a comfortable flow rate indication Quote Treat others the way you wanna be treated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnsfpl Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 i think the key is random flow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flankell Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 My one ft cube have two 2000lph wavemaker without return pump. LPS looks fine. Sent from my LG-P990 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spgohjc Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 My one ft cube have two 2000lph wavemaker without return pump. LPS looks fine. Sent from my LG-P990 using Tapatalk Bro where do you direct the 2 wave makers? Mine only one, like sand storm already. haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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