First Albino Marine fish worldwide made in SA

[Marcel]

Hi to all,

I am happy to introduce the first worldwide Albino Marine Fish to the Singapore Reefclub.

A few of you guys might have read about it on MOFIB.

It is the first albino strain in the world for marine fish.

These are amphiprion ocellaris.

Please let me know what you think.

Thanks and regards

Marcel

[FuEl]

Hi Marcel,

Glad you found your way here. Guess we should be expecting some of your fish very soon?

[Marcel]

Hi Marcel,

Glad you found your way here. Guess we should be expecting some of your fish very soon?

Hi Junkai,

yes I found the way after somebody mentioned where to go.

I thought, I will post some pics and see what the people over there think about the first albino marine fish.

Seems to me, they keep quiet for now. Lots of views and the only reply was you.

Come on guys, I am German and live in South Africa. So it is a good culture mix on this board.

Questions? Comments?

Junkai, the worlds first release will be in the united states early next year. Asia? Depending on a demand. No demand, no business.

Chat soon

[Marcel]

For all the people, who do not know MOFIB, here is the link.

Albino thread on MOFIB

[mitlancer]

Cool... but i think i just fell in love with that (white) yellow tang in the video linked in MOFIB!!!!!

[FuEl]

Come on guys, do show support and make Singapore be one of the first few countries with albino ocellaris!

[yikai]

Come on guys, do show support and make Singapore be one of the first few countries with albino ocellaris!

support! v nice. v unique

[Digiman]

Interesting, esp the eyes are red, trademark of albino fishes. But if its available here locally i'll not buy. Also dun think the price of these albinos should be anything more than three times that of normal occellaris. I'm never a fan of fishes created through selective breeding, for example ORA picasso clowns are way overpriced in my opinion. However this is what i feel only and is in no way representative of the majority. In fact i think if these are available here it'll be v popular (well that's if the price is right) as look at the albino freshwater fishes (most recent i think is albino/xanthic arowana), they are gaining so much attention and popularity. So if nemo is already so popular, i think an albino nemo will definitely cause a big stir.

[hijackng]

Nice fish.

Albino usually dont like bright environment.

Will it be stress up in a brightly lit tank?

[dom07]

cool fish:)

[Marcel]

Nice fish.

Albino usually dont like bright environment.

Will it be stress up in a brightly lit tank?

I was told form lots of breeders around the world, bright light won´t be an issue or will harm them.

Since a few weeks, I keep 5 of them in a reeftank with good lights on there. Not a problem.

My concern was taking pictures with a flash, because then, the light will be coming from the side.

I took a few pictures with a flash and they behaved themselves like any other fish.

From what I have seen so far, I would think, not even the bright light from a metal high light will harm them or they will hide

in a darker place in a tank with metal high lights.

Before I am going to release an albino, I will keep them for a while under metal high lights to see how they react.

[Marcel]

Interesting, esp the eyes are red, trademark of albino fishes. But if its available here locally i'll not buy. Also dun think the price of these albinos should be anything more than three times that of normal occellaris. I'm never a fan of fishes created through selective breeding, for example ORA picasso clowns are way overpriced in my opinion. However this is what i feel only and is in no way representative of the majority. In fact i think if these are available here it'll be v popular (well that's if the price is right) as look at the albino freshwater fishes (most recent i think is albino/xanthic arowana), they are gaining so much attention and popularity. So if nemo is already so popular, i think an albino nemo will definitely cause a big stir.

These albino strain showed up, because of a gen defect from their parents. Albinism has got nothing to do with selective breeding. It was a mood of the nature, like any other albinos.

The best part is from my point of view, these albinos are captive bred and all the following albinos will be also captive bred. If they claim a big space in the market, even better. That saves the environment.

To be honest, I never liked an albino freshwater fish and I was not impressed, when I realised these ugly fish are albinos. You guys really had to see them, when they were a month old. UGLY.

The funny part is, the older they get, the better they look. Everybody who saw these albinos in real life, went mad for these fish. The pictures don´t show their real beauty. The more light they get, the better they look. It is like the light goes right into their body and they seem to glow. And at the size of 4 cm they are really beautiful. Can´t wait to see them, when they 6 or 8 cm big.

Problem is so far, I took all these pictures with my cellphone. A friend of mine want to come around with his macro lens, to take much better pictures.

The IMACSA 2009 in Cape Town takes place at the 23rd of October and the Albinos will be shown to the public for the first time.

By then we will see pictures in a good quality. Anthony Calfo and Julian Sprung are going to join this event. Can´t wait to hear their opinion.

Be patient, I will keep you guys updated on this thread.

Regarding pricing these fish. At this moment, there are only 46 albinos alive worldwide. That means, these albinos are the rarest marine fish in the world.

The price should be extremely high. I don´t like all the ORA clowns, like the new and expensive Platinums. But for a first grade picasso pair, I would spend that amount of money. I guess, the majority here and all over the world likes the GEM tang from Mauritius and would be proud to have one swimming in your own tank. Me too, but the price, around 1200 to 1500 USD is for me much to high. The albinos should be worth much more than a gem tang.

Depending on the demand and at the quantity I am able to breed, the price will be definitely high. I would say ORA scale!

Which is in my opinion cheap for such a rare fish. On the other hand, if you would be me, you would try to make as much money as possible out of these albinos. I guess, nobody will blame me for trying to do so.

But we will see, maybe a rich collector buys them all. Then they will be off the market, before they even could come on the market.

A japanese business man bought a few years ago a koi fish for 1,5 million Euro. Why not, if you got the cash.

But anyway, we will see how the albino story continues.

Keep on posting.

Thanks guys

[Digiman]

The funny part is, the older they get, the better they look. Everybody who saw these albinos in real life, went mad for these fish. The pictures don´t show their real beauty. The more light they get, the better they look. It is like the light goes right into their body and they seem to glow. And at the size of 4 cm they are really beautiful. Can´t wait to see them, when they 6 or 8 cm big.

Regarding pricing these fish. At this moment, there are only 46 albinos alive worldwide. That means, these albinos are the rarest marine fish in the world.

The price should be extremely high. I don´t like all the ORA clowns, like the new and expensive Platinums. But for a first grade picasso pair, I would spend that amount of money. I guess, the majority here and all over the world likes the GEM tang from Mauritius and would be proud to have one swimming in your own tank. Me too, but the price, around 1200 to 1500 USD is for me much to high. The albinos should be worth much more than a gem tang.

Depending on the demand and at the quantity I am able to breed, the price will be definitely high. I would say ORA scale!

Which is in my opinion cheap for such a rare fish. On the other hand, if you would be me, you would try to make as much money as possible out of these albinos. I guess, nobody will blame me for trying to do so.

But we will see, maybe a rich collector buys them all. Then they will be off the market, before they even could come on the market.

A japanese business man bought a few years ago a koi fish for 1,5 million Euro. Why not, if you got the cash.

I'm speaking from the general consumer point of view. I do agree if i was u i'll also try to make most money out of these clowns since u're the pioneer breeder and unlike other inventions, marine fishes have no patents and there is no stopping of worldwide breeding after the first release into the market so understandably the first batch should be expensive. For instance my jaw dropped when i see the price of CB mccullochi clowns, but the price will (ok, hopefully) eventually come down so that more hobbyists can enjoy the fish.

We'll be looking for better pics as from the old pics cant see much glowing or big difference in colors to the normal clown except for red eye. A glowing clownfish will be interesting and unique and if the price is ORA scale, i dun mind getting a pair if it hits our shore. We'll be waiting for more updates. All the best.

[kueytoc]

MOI luvs these variations much more !

[Guest]

look like a clown faded in color to me..

[Marcel]

look like a clown faded in color to me..

Just for you, I made two different colourations of albinos. Now you can decide.

See my next post.

[Marcel]

Hi guys,

here are some news from South Africa and the Albino clowns.

We had last weekend the IMACSA 2009 in Cape Town. I was one of the lecturers at IMACSA. Marcel, that´s me, in between the living legends Julian Sprung and Anthony Calfo. F....k, I was so nervous. A speech in front of these guys and the other hobbyists, on top of it in english. Hectic, but I managed my part of IMACSA very well. I was told so many times!

My albino clowns were shown to the public for the first time. I was thinking of the comments regarding posts we had in this thread, regarding pale colour, etc.

I decided a week before IMACSA to feed a few albinos with an astaxanthin enriched diet. I think the result after just 7 days is remarkable. We all know that astaxanthin will boost orange and red, but the albinos were boosted to a maximum, with a minimum of astaxanthin. These pictures are not the best ones, better pictures taken with professional equipment will follow, including the announcement, who will be your GOOD HOPE ALBINO supplier in the states.

These pictures will give you guys a roughly idea what they look like in real life.

Nobody mentioned a dislike or something similar regarding the albinos. Around 3/4 of the people, including myself prefer the pale orange, many people, including Anthony Calfo and Julian Sprung like both colourations and many prefer the darker ones.

Julian Sprung´s comment: They are cool!

Anthony Calfo´s comment: They are magnificent!

It was an awesome event and it was a pleasure to meet Anthony and Julian in person.

Please, I would like to know what you guys think about there colours.

[jc85]

Wow. Astaxanthin sure make a huge diff. Btw, will the color maintain without Astaxanthin as their stable diet?

Cheers

JC

[Marcel]

Wow. Astaxanthin sure make a huge diff. Btw, will the color maintain without Astaxanthin as their stable diet?

Cheers

JC

Definitely not. I reckon, they will look like the use to look before, after around 2 to 3 weeks I stopped astaxanthin enriched diet.

I think it´s good, because you can play with their colour until you get the colour you like. Then you keep feeding here and there a bit cyclope eeze and they will stay like that. After a year, you decide to let them get back to the pale orange and after another year you boost them to this dark orange.

I think, these fish will have many benefits. I prefer the pale orange, which is actually not that pale. Depending on the light. The brighter the light, the brighter there colour. I am glad, that I have tried this different diets.

[Digiman]

Please, I would like to know what you guys think about there colours.

omg, they remind me of the freshwater parrot fish.

It is cute and colorful, but i hope this will only stop at clownfishes.

[Marcel]

I am happy to anounce the world sole distributor for albino ocellaris is Proaquatix in Vero Beach, Florida.

For those reefers who are interested, please contact Eric from Proaquatix.

In a few weeks, Proaquatix should receive the first stock.

[FuEl]

I am happy to anounce the world sole distributor for albino ocellaris is Proaquatix in Vero Beach, Florida.

For those reefers who are interested, please contact Eric from Proaquatix.

In a few weeks, Proaquatix should receive the first stock.

Hi Marcel,

I'll try to spread the news. I get their stocklist somehow.

Here's more information for those who are interested.

[Marcel]

Hi Marcel,

I'll try to spread the news. I get their stocklist somehow.

Here's more information for those who are interested.

Thanks Junkai, the marketing starts. The more albinos gets sold, the less fish gets taken out of the ocean. Here in South Africa, almost all clowns are wild caught.

[BFG]

Thanks Junkai, the marketing starts. The more albinos gets sold, the less fish gets taken out of the ocean. Here in South Africa, almost all clowns are wild caught.

Hmm, this is a business minded opinion. I would whole heartedly support tank raised fish in order to lessen wild collection but never tank raised selective breeding for unique pattern or color, it's like the luohan and parrot fish nightmare in the freshwater arena.

[FuEl]

Hmm, this is a business minded opinion. I would whole heartedly support tank raised fish in order to lessen wild collection but never tank raised selective breeding for unique pattern or color, it's like the luohan and parrot fish nightmare in the freshwater arena.

You would never have guessed that the parents that produced the albino clownfish are perfectly normal clownfish. They just happened to have the genes for albinism. The chances of albinism to be reproduced is very rare. Even for terrapins now, there are albino versions. Nothing wrong IMO.

The parrotfish issue is another thing. These fish are dyed artificially, not selectively bred. That is inhumane.