fishiee Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 I am looking to buy a new skimmer and have narrowed it down to 2 models of reef octopus. The DNW 110 and the BH 100 (i know these are very old models, going to be phased out, but these are the most cost-effective skimmers i can afford). My three main factors are: Price, Performance and Noise (noise as my tank is right next to my bed and i don't want my sleep to be affected by it) According to the fish shop: - the DNW is around 100 bucks more expensive than the BH 100 (i save a portion of my $50 a week allowance to fund my marine tank, so 100 bucks means a lot to me) - the DNW is a little noiser than the BH 100, but a little noise makes a lot of difference to a good night's sleep, right?) - the DNW is around 50% more efficient than the BH 100 My tank consists of mainly softies, one LPS and a clam and a few fish, although i cam considering an SPS or two in the future...i am also planning to put cheato in my tank. and FYI, my tank is now running fine on a boyu skimer (the smallest model), but upgrades to the skimmer are in order. What are your views? I am pretty set on the BH 100, but is there anyone who can change my mind? Is the DNW 110 really quiet, so much so that the difference is not significant? and are there any bad reviews on the BH 100? hahaha. thanks for your inputs in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishiee Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 any takers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member TayHongSiang Posted September 2, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted September 2, 2009 any takers? how abt skimz 150 or bubble magus? i think iwarna or lck carries bubble magus...china brand but quite effective n cheap also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcoVan Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 I'm running a Reef Octopus DNW200. It's a little noisy when the water level in the tank gets low beyond optimum skimming (I do wet skimming). Performance wise, I say I cannot believe Reef Octopus skimmers can skim shit out of my ULN system. So well, good choice for setting your sights on an economical and efficient skimmer If you want to see the performance, by all means arrange a time with me, I will be more than glad to entertain you (: Happy Reefing, Marc J. Quote Happy Reefing, Marc J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Vlamingi_cont Posted September 2, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted September 2, 2009 any takers? I believe that what u pay will be what u get... And an advice from a book written by Michael S. Paletta don't skimp on a good skimmer buy a better one and u will not regret it... But in the end its still up to u... Of course get the best of what u can afford... Quote 1ft cube with IOS [the low tech tank] 1. JBJ C-breeze to keep temp hovering around 27-28'C 2. LED clip on - 120 bulbs -skimmer-less- My 3 humble equipments that keeps my tank running... [DRIED OUT] 1. The RSM itself of course 2.My NEW Deltec MCE-300 Skimmer 3. My trusty Arctica Chiller Tank parameters: Temperature maintained at 25.3'C to 24.7'C No3: 10ppm(b4 the use of the deltec skimmer) No3: 5ppm (after use of the skimmer) Others? too lazy to measure...LOL Camera- EOS 50D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishiee Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share Posted September 2, 2009 ok. i will take everything into consideration. thanks for your advice. unfortunately, i am not a rich guy and furthurmore, as my tank is in my room, I don't think i would want to get an overpowered skimmer....i know the skimmer is the heart of my reef tank, but my sleep is what keeps me going everyday. I got a noisy aquaroum fan once. 2 weeks of hell before i decided i had enough and hopped down to sim lim to get some 12V computer fans. They were much quieter and the first night with them was bliss. Another option is of course to run the skimmer on a timer, but that i feel cuts the efficiency of the skimmer as it has less time to skim...one quiet, reasonable good skimmer running full time beat a better skimmer runing halftime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member cowgum Posted September 3, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted September 3, 2009 how abt skimz 150 or bubble magus? i think iwarna or lck carries bubble magus...china brand but quite effective n cheap also. think skimz 150 ($600+) out of his budget didn't see bubble magus when i was at the iwarna. think Reef octopus is a better bet as it has been around for 4-5 years. The new range looks really good to0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member cowgum Posted September 3, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted September 3, 2009 think noise is hard to determind if its noisy or not. Maybe you can take a look at the running model to know the noise level. the model you are looking at is only a 1000l/hr pump so you have to look at a similiar size skimmer. Dnw-200 is a 3000l/hr pump, more power naturally more noise. anwyay i am imagining that your room is small and quiet. do take note of your tanks overflow, it can be quite loud if not taken care of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member cowgum Posted September 3, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted September 3, 2009 I believe that what u pay will be what u get... And an advice from a book written by Michael S. Paletta don't skimp on a good skimmer buy a better one and u will not regret it... But in the end its still up to u... Of course get the best of what u can afford... a good skimmer is indeed extremely important....however from my experience an ex skimmer doesn't mean its good. I have seen a china 200+ skimmer out skim a 800+ aqua medic. think it's because the cost that goes into the skimmer doesn't necessarily contribute to the performance of the skimmer. but of course a cheap skimmer can't have quality materials being used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member TayHongSiang Posted September 3, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted September 3, 2009 dun look at the brand only...look at the bubbles it produce. the smaller the bubbles the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Vlamingi_cont Posted September 3, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted September 3, 2009 a good skimmer is indeed extremely important....however from my experience an ex skimmer doesn't mean its good.I have seen a china 200+ skimmer out skim a 800+ aqua medic. think it's because the cost that goes into the skimmer doesn't necessarily contribute to the performance of the skimmer. but of course a cheap skimmer can't have quality materials being used. Yep... i absolutely agree like red sea brand not china brand but i'm unhappy abt its performance... so its advised to ask ard before purchasing one... Quote 1ft cube with IOS [the low tech tank] 1. JBJ C-breeze to keep temp hovering around 27-28'C 2. LED clip on - 120 bulbs -skimmer-less- My 3 humble equipments that keeps my tank running... [DRIED OUT] 1. The RSM itself of course 2.My NEW Deltec MCE-300 Skimmer 3. My trusty Arctica Chiller Tank parameters: Temperature maintained at 25.3'C to 24.7'C No3: 10ppm(b4 the use of the deltec skimmer) No3: 5ppm (after use of the skimmer) Others? too lazy to measure...LOL Camera- EOS 50D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member [V]tEc Posted September 3, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted September 3, 2009 ok. i will take everything into consideration. thanks for your advice. unfortunately, i am not a rich guy and furthurmore, as my tank is in my room, I don't think i would want to get an overpowered skimmer....i know the skimmer is the heart of my reef tank, but my sleep is what keeps me going everyday. I got a noisy aquaroum fan once. 2 weeks of hell before i decided i had enough and hopped down to sim lim to get some 12V computer fans. They were much quieter and the first night with them was bliss. Another option is of course to run the skimmer on a timer, but that i feel cuts the efficiency of the skimmer as it has less time to skim...one quiet, reasonable good skimmer running full time beat a better skimmer runing halftime. try going for the bubble magus. at least it uses aquabee pump....very very quiet too. for my tank, cup is full after 4days. very dark kopi o. after washing the cup, on the skimmer, within 1 min start foaming liao. very value for money i feel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member LaW Posted September 3, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted September 3, 2009 im using bubble king supermarin 300. despite it using a relatively powerful pump sucking air, it is extremely quiet which is an important factor for it being in ur room. do consider for the smaller models suiting ur need. happy reefing Quote If a man could beat his own fantasy. Then to only breed in captivity. Then its pointless. Genesis 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that has life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. And God created great whales, and every living creature that moves, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. And the evening and the morning were the fifth day. || Tank: 78" x 30" x 30" || Sump: 48" x 22" x 20" || Lights: PowerModule 10 X 80W|| Returns: 2 x HF32 || || Skimmer: BubbleKing Supermarin 300 || Wavemaker: 3 x 6100 & 1 x 6200, 2 x Wavebox 6212, WavySea || || FR: 2 x FR150 || NR: Sulphur Denitrator || CR: RM Custom Made 8" || KR: Deltec KM500 || TopUp: Tunze Osmolator 3155 || || UV: Coralife 12X 36W || Ozonizer: Sanders C200|| Controller: GHL Profilux Plus II Ex || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member TayHongSiang Posted September 4, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted September 4, 2009 im using bubble king supermarin 300. despite it using a relatively powerful pump sucking air, it is extremely quiet which is an important factor for it being in ur room. do consider for the smaller models suiting ur need. happy reefing Brother LAW, i heard yr tank very tok kong...can update for us to see see? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member LaW Posted September 4, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted September 4, 2009 who said so? thats nonsense, my tank is far from being good. will update when I have the time together with a review of the worthy profilux, just restarted and now waiting for things to be in place. Quote If a man could beat his own fantasy. Then to only breed in captivity. Then its pointless. Genesis 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that has life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. And God created great whales, and every living creature that moves, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. And the evening and the morning were the fifth day. || Tank: 78" x 30" x 30" || Sump: 48" x 22" x 20" || Lights: PowerModule 10 X 80W|| Returns: 2 x HF32 || || Skimmer: BubbleKing Supermarin 300 || Wavemaker: 3 x 6100 & 1 x 6200, 2 x Wavebox 6212, WavySea || || FR: 2 x FR150 || NR: Sulphur Denitrator || CR: RM Custom Made 8" || KR: Deltec KM500 || TopUp: Tunze Osmolator 3155 || || UV: Coralife 12X 36W || Ozonizer: Sanders C200|| Controller: GHL Profilux Plus II Ex || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orsony Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 who said so? thats nonsense, my tank is far from being good. will update when I have the time together with a review of the worthy profilux, just restarted and now waiting for things to be in place. Ya agreed, like suck right now? Need to give him some time to recoup from the previous lost. Hehehehe...... All the best to you, bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishiee Posted September 5, 2009 Author Share Posted September 5, 2009 Ok. I got a octopus skimmer. (DNW, DDNW or DNWB? i forgot the model) 110 skimmer (external). 'Second hand' from reborn. Waiting for it to kick in. It was not as quiet as i wanted it to be, but i will see what i can do about it. All these external skimmers can be 'placed in water' right? mabye i will get a small acrylic tank with freshwater and dump the skimmer into it. That will take care of almost any noise, not to mention any small leaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member LaW Posted September 7, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted September 7, 2009 Ya agreed, like suck right now? Need to give him some time to recoup from the previous lost. Hehehehe...... All the best to you, bro. thank you, but things are looking pretty good these days. just need to hook the rest of things up. when its done, it will be a big bang Quote If a man could beat his own fantasy. Then to only breed in captivity. Then its pointless. Genesis 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that has life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. And God created great whales, and every living creature that moves, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. And the evening and the morning were the fifth day. || Tank: 78" x 30" x 30" || Sump: 48" x 22" x 20" || Lights: PowerModule 10 X 80W|| Returns: 2 x HF32 || || Skimmer: BubbleKing Supermarin 300 || Wavemaker: 3 x 6100 & 1 x 6200, 2 x Wavebox 6212, WavySea || || FR: 2 x FR150 || NR: Sulphur Denitrator || CR: RM Custom Made 8" || KR: Deltec KM500 || TopUp: Tunze Osmolator 3155 || || UV: Coralife 12X 36W || Ozonizer: Sanders C200|| Controller: GHL Profilux Plus II Ex || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orsony Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 thank you, but things are looking pretty good these days. just need to hook the rest of things up. when its done, it will be a big bang When can I come over to have a look? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member jyoon Posted September 7, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted September 7, 2009 Hi Fishiee Check this link http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/index.php?...c=82115&hl= Someone selling a 9 months Skimz 150 for S$250.00. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcoVan Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Ok. I got a octopus skimmer. (DNW, DDNW or DNWB? i forgot the model) 110 skimmer (external). 'Second hand' from reborn. Waiting for it to kick in. It was not as quiet as i wanted it to be, but i will see what i can do about it. All these external skimmers can be 'placed in water' right? mabye i will get a small acrylic tank with freshwater and dump the skimmer into it. That will take care of almost any noise, not to mention any small leaks. Bro, I will not do that if I were you. I put my DNW200 insump and have to deal with a specific water level inside the tank to churn out the right kind of skimmate I want. Water level in tank will achieve a balanced water level inside the skimmer. It's the physics of fluids. So yah, if gonna put outsump, you can try putting a small tray/base plate to act as water collection for leakages or make use of the fish tank just don't put water in it. Okay? Happy Reefing, Marc J. Quote Happy Reefing, Marc J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member [V]tEc Posted September 9, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted September 9, 2009 Bro, I will not do that if I were you. I put my DNW200 insump and have to deal with a specific water level inside the tank to churn out the right kind of skimmate I want. Water level in tank will achieve a balanced water level inside the skimmer. It's the physics of fluids. So yah, if gonna put outsump, you can try putting a small tray/base plate to act as water collection for leakages or make use of the fish tank just don't put water in it. Okay? Happy Reefing, Marc J. urs is a insump model, his is outsump, works diff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcoVan Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 urs is a insump model, his is outsump, works diff No no, outsump model. cause it's recirculating. but I put it inside sump so yah. Happy Reefing, Marc J. Quote Happy Reefing, Marc J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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