Migration of tank from one current tank to a new tank

[onizukaa]

hi,

any 1 try before migrating your current tank (old) to a brand new tank?

lets say i got a 3ft tank, i want to buy another 4ft tank discarding away the old 3ft tank.

I transfer all the media / live rock / water / inside.

after that put in the fishes (like moving house but everything's the same).

Will the fishes get new tank syndrome? any side effect of doing that other then stressing the fishes?

Any 1 try before kindly advice and really appreciate it.

thanks!

[comycus]

Was just looking at this article when I saw your post. No experience in changing tanks, but I think it's a start!

http://www.aquaristsonline.com/blog/genera...orals-and-fish/

[raydiative]

hi,

any 1 try before migrating your current tank (old) to a brand new tank?

lets say i got a 3ft tank, i want to buy another 4ft tank discarding away the old 3ft tank.

I transfer all the media / live rock / water / inside.

after that put in the fishes (like moving house but everything's the same).

Will the fishes get new tank syndrome? any side effect of doing that other then stressing the fishes?

Any 1 try before kindly advice and really appreciate it.

thanks!

hi,

have done it twice before and i would highly recommend you to do water change of about 40 - 50% during the transfer..

this is due to the detritus that will "pollute" the water when the LR is being taken out of the tank...

also the last 20% of the water in your old tank would be very dirty and you would not want them in your new tank too...

i also took the chance to wash my sand with the remaining "dirty" water..

HTH

Ray =]

[onizukaa]

wow thx for the feed back guys.

comycus:

have read the article seems the type of steps i am going to perform (some steps dont think so)

raydiative:

because the main concern is the bacteria that is house on the bio balls and coral chips (not sure whether they are bacteria or nitrate builder )

Liverocks have been in there more then a year, so i think migration can be done as raydiative done it twice...

will try it out!

thanks guys

[Gouldian]

wow thx for the feed back guys.

comycus:

have read the article seems the type of steps i am going to perform (some steps dont think so)

raydiative:

because the main concern is the bacteria that is house on the bio balls and coral chips (not sure whether they are bacteria or nitrate builder )

Liverocks have been in there more then a year, so i think migration can be done as raydiative done it twice...

will try it out!

thanks guys

Bro,

Not sure if its useful but for me I will siphon 50% of the water from my old tank and keep them aside in aerated container to be used in new tank before I start any de-comm activities. This is because I find that once your start remove livestocks and rocks, the water will be too cloudy and the water quality will not be suitable for the new tank.

[onizukaa]

Bro,

Not sure if its useful but for me I will siphon 50% of the water from my old tank and keep them aside in aerated container to be used in new tank before I start any de-comm activities. This is because I find that once your start remove livestocks and rocks, the water will be too cloudy and the water quality will not be suitable for the new tank.

yea bro.

that's a great idea!

as what you mention, the "sai" and the dirty particles will move around.

the water that i siphon out will be much cleaner..

Does 50% water change a drastic change? because i intend to purchase NSW from iwarna.

Not much corals only hairy mushroom and tube worms left. rest are all fishes which have been with me for a year / 2 year+

[Gouldian]

yea bro.

that's a great idea!

as what you mention, the "sai" and the dirty particles will move around.

the water that i siphon out will be much cleaner..

Does 50% water change a drastic change? because i intend to purchase NSW from iwarna.

Not much corals only hairy mushroom and tube worms left. rest are all fishes which have been with me for a year / 2 year+

If the NSW source is reliable and the salinity and pH is within range, I don't foresee any drastic reaction from the livestocks. I did some major change to my tank last november and using partial NSW from Iwarna as well without any mishaps.

All the best!

[onizukaa]

sweee~~ think the upcoming project is set to go!!!

now hunting for 3feet tank! come ar come!

and thanks alot for your feedback Gouldian, appreciate it!

[albinosage]

Yup, siphoning out water from the middle of the tank before moving stuff around and setting aside is a good idea, the water will be a lot cleaner. Not just for "moving house", I do that even when doing water change, the water can be used to compensate if I calculate wrongly and don't have enough new water. I also keep the water running in a container, can be used as emergency supply if I need to quarantine livestock on short notice.

[sherman]

I did that twice.

Normally I will off the return pump and let the wavemakers take care for a week or two

while I do the transfer.

I will siphon about 60- 70 % of the sump water to the new tank.Then I will clean the return pump

,skimmer,denitrator and FR.

Then I set up the above cleanup equipments.

Next I will transfer about 20% of the main tank water and transfer all corals to the blue tub .

Now I will slowly transfer the LR to the new tank and add in enough newly mix salt water to cover the

live rocks.

This usually take a day or 2.

When all LR is transfer I will siphon the old tank water to the new tank after all the dust settle down.

I let the new setup tank cycle for 1 day and take reading of all the common parameters.

If everything is ok I will start the transfer all the corals from the blue tub to the main tank.

This is follow by very close monitoring of all the corals reaction to the new setup

Hope that help

[onizukaa]

bro, thanks for the step by step advice.

because the the overflow to sump consist of bio balls + coral chips (yes they are filled with "sai" and dirt) think this might be the culprit behind the 100 nitrate (salifert test kit)..

If i just let the wavemaker do the job, ain't it wihtout any filtering (this is my concern)

any advice to this? (how come can let it without filtering for 1/2 weeks), worry about the fishes haha

I did that twice.

Normally I will off the return pump and let the wavemakers take care for a week or two

while I do the transfer.

I will siphon about 60- 70 % of the sump water to the new tank.Then I will clean the return pump

,skimmer,denitrator and FR.

Then I set up the above cleanup equipments.

Next I will transfer about 20% of the main tank water and transfer all corals to the blue tub .

Now I will slowly transfer the LR to the new tank and add in enough newly mix salt water to cover the

live rocks.

This usually take a day or 2.

When all LR is transfer I will siphon the old tank water to the new tank after all the dust settle down.

I let the new setup tank cycle for 1 day and take reading of all the common parameters.

If everything is ok I will start the transfer all the corals from the blue tub to the main tank.

This is follow by very close monitoring of all the corals reaction to the new setup

Hope that help

[albinosage]

I think as long as the water is circulating with the help of wavemaker, don't have to worry about filtration if it is for a couple of days. Live rocks is a bio filtration medium too.

[onizukaa]

icic, any 1 know where to buy those big big blue tub? and how much does it cost?

[sherman]

Many fish shop have.

Can loan from some bros also.

[dachkie]

i had a previous incident where my old tank flooded , and my current tank was in the midst of cycling so i had to rush and save as much LS as possible and dump them into the new tank , and most of the LS survive, i think what is most important is the PH and that the salinity is as close to the old tank as possible

[onizukaa]

PH and salinity mine is very close to the NSW water that i will buy (tested it before).

What i am most concern is the bacteria... whether it will suffer from new tank syndrome.

as most of the bros mentioned that liverock is the natural source, i hope that it's fine.

now trying to look for the big tub to hold all the fishes. haha

thx for your input!

i had a previous incident where my old tank flooded , and my current tank was in the midst of cycling so i had to rush and save as much LS as possible and dump them into the new tank , and most of the LS survive, i think what is most important is the PH and that the salinity is as close to the old tank as possible

[comycus]

PH and salinity mine is very close to the NSW water that i will buy (tested it before).

What i am most concern is the bacteria... whether it will suffer from new tank syndrome.

as most of the bros mentioned that liverock is the natural source, i hope that it's fine.

now trying to look for the big tub to hold all the fishes. haha

thx for your input!

bro why not consider dosing bacteria? between them and the liverock, I'm sure will be fine.

[dachkie]

PH and salinity mine is very close to the NSW water that i will buy (tested it before).

What i am most concern is the bacteria... whether it will suffer from new tank syndrome.

as most of the bros mentioned that liverock is the natural source, i hope that it's fine.

now trying to look for the big tub to hold all the fishes. haha

thx for your input!

what about the sand? actually y not take the chance to let this tank run tru its natural cycle for 3 months until all the diatoms r completely gone and no 3 at 0 ,

to redo the perfect enviroment. i've been wishing to do that but for a 5footer its really a little bit hard

[sherman]

PH and salinity mine is very close to the NSW water that i will buy (tested it before).

What i am most concern is the bacteria... whether it will suffer from new tank syndrome.

as most of the bros mentioned that liverock is the natural source, i hope that it's fine.

now trying to look for the big tub to hold all the fishes. haha

thx for your input!

If you are using the LR from your old tank and not too have new uncure LR in the new tank

there should not be much of a problem