Terryz_ Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 Hi all, have been pondering to go for Balling method or stay with my initial plan for Calcium Reactor.. For me, it will be a mainly zoas, mush,yumas and softies tank.. With some assort monti cap and digi.. With the recent hike in electricity prices, I am turning to a cost efficient method, which is balling method, I am able to get variable dosing pump at a good price and they run at a lower wattage too.. So just wish to get some feedback about the balling method Vs calcium reactor.. Thanks.. Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcoVan Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 Hi all, have been pondering to go for Balling method or stay with my initial plan for Calcium Reactor.. For me, it will be a mainly zoas, mush,yumas and softies tank.. With some assort monti cap and digi.. With the recent hike in electricity prices, I am turning to a cost efficient method, which is balling method, I am able to get variable dosing pump at a good price and they run at a lower wattage too.. So just wish to get some feedback about the balling method Vs calcium reactor.. Thanks.. I am more game for balling because of the cost-saving it has provided on the long run. And less equipments also mean lesser applications of Murphy's Theory. Hope you know what I mean bro. Anyway do you have the formula for the dosing regime? (: Also, if you ask me if with your current stock level, do you need to do dosing. My answer is no need. You can always replace the necessary elements with weekly water changes. Oceanic, D&D and Reef Crystal salt mixes are really good! Here's something for the ref: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.p...mp;pagenumber=1 Lastly, where are you going to get your variable dosing pump from? Let me know via PM k! (: Marc. Quote Happy Reefing, Marc J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryz_ Posted August 16, 2009 Author Share Posted August 16, 2009 I am more game for balling because of the cost-saving it has provided on the long run. And less equipments also mean lesser applications of Murphy's Theory. Hope you know what I mean bro. Anyway do you have the formula for the dosing regime? (: Also, if you ask me if with your current stock level, do you need to do dosing. My answer is no need. You can always replace the necessary elements with weekly water changes. Oceanic, D&D and Reef Crystal salt mixes are really good! Here's something for the ref: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.p...mp;pagenumber=1 Lastly, where are you going to get your variable dosing pump from? Let me know via PM k! (: Marc. As you know, I am still quite green towards Balling... I normally will take a look at the dosing product then do my calculation from there, depending on my tank intake daily... I am afraid I might go all out sps once I get some success from Monti.. So the calcium and carbonate intake might be faster than usual... Will PM you the dosing pump website.. Have not used it yet but worth a try... Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 this is also a very good acticle for D.I.Y dosing ; http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-02/rhf/index.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member serravorte Posted August 16, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted August 16, 2009 still prefer a CR to take care of things when iz properly tune up... balling is abit more troublesome in the sense that u haf to mix the minerals into bottles.. just my 2cents.. cheers... SPS~!~! SPS~!~! gogogogo Quote My 3ft tank Dimension --> 3ftx1.5ftx2ft Ehiem 1262 return Ehiem 1260 Artica 1/5hp Chiller Tunze 6055 + 7091 single controller EcoTech Marine Vortech MP40W Royal Exclusive Mini BubbleKing 160 Lumenarc 250watt 10K BLV 02x Giesemann T5 39watt (blue + Actinic) Deltec 501 CR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcoVan Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 As you know, I am still quite green towards Balling... I normally will take a look at the dosing product then do my calculation from there, depending on my tank intake daily...I am afraid I might go all out sps once I get some success from Monti.. So the calcium and carbonate intake might be faster than usual... Will PM you the dosing pump website.. Have not used it yet but worth a try... It's okay bro. Everything is a learning step to something greater! (: well for myself, I use the Reef Calculator to calculate how much I need to dose per week, then I adjust from there. So, keeping a journal of your daily regime is necessary for balling if not, die liao (: Anyway, there's no harm going for CR or kalk reactor. For myself even though I am using Balling, I am still planning to run a kalk reactor to provide the necessary stability for the tank just in case, something fails at least the consequences aren't that detrimental. But sticking with my principles, that's gonna be the last equipment going in service for my tank's backbone (: Nonetheless bro before you consider if you want to do balling or run a CR, you got to run in the necessary cost to maintain the necessary equipments or the cost to buy the necessary stuff to start the regime. Balling alike CR has a lot of hidden costs. Test kits alone will cost you a blue note already (: So think hard before making the plunge (: Happy Reefing, Marc P.S: Check this out - http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-02/rhf/index.php Quote Happy Reefing, Marc J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcoVan Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 this is also a very good acticle for D.I.Y dosing ; http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-02/rhf/index.php LOL. Nice one bro. I just posted something alike! Happy Reefing, Marc Quote Happy Reefing, Marc J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcoVan Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 still prefer a CR to take care of things when iz properly tune up... balling is abit more troublesome in the sense that u haf to mix the minerals into bottles.. just my 2cents.. cheers... SPS~!~! SPS~!~! gogogogo With a CR, you sure have created a really nice tank! Keep it up Chris Happy Reefing, Marc Quote Happy Reefing, Marc J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryz_ Posted August 16, 2009 Author Share Posted August 16, 2009 this is also a very good acticle for D.I.Y dosing ; http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-02/rhf/index.php Thanks bro. Will take look.. Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryz_ Posted August 16, 2009 Author Share Posted August 16, 2009 still prefer a CR to take care of things when iz properly tune up... balling is abit more troublesome in the sense that u haf to mix the minerals into bottles.. just my 2cents.. cheers... SPS~!~! SPS~!~! gogogogo True, But I feel the running cost is a bit high as the pump will be running almost 24/7... But different reefer got different reefing method so will not comment much.. There are liquid element additives that can be bought straight from LFS... Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryz_ Posted August 16, 2009 Author Share Posted August 16, 2009 It's okay bro. Everything is a learning step to something greater! (: well for myself, I use the Reef Calculator to calculate how much I need to dose per week, then I adjust from there. So, keeping a journal of your daily regime is necessary for balling if not, die liao (: Anyway, there's no harm going for CR or kalk reactor. For myself even though I am using Balling, I am still planning to run a kalk reactor to provide the necessary stability for the tank just in case, something fails at least the consequences aren't that detrimental. But sticking with my principles, that's gonna be the last equipment going in service for my tank's backbone (: Nonetheless bro before you consider if you want to do balling or run a CR, you got to run in the necessary cost to maintain the necessary equipments or the cost to buy the necessary stuff to start the regime. Balling alike CR has a lot of hidden costs. Test kits alone will cost you a blue note already (: So think hard before making the plunge (: Happy Reefing, Marc P.S: Check this out - http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-02/rhf/index.php Ya... But I think the calculation and monitoring is very vital.. I think I will be using Balling alone... Should be able to sustain a normal mixed reef... Ya, there are always different cost to running different method... But electricity bill is more expensive and it a monthly payment compared to the test kits and additives which can be used for 3 to 6 months.. Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gouldian Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Bro, What salt-mix will you be using, FMLK balling needs salt-mix low in sodium chloride (NaCl). There are some trying out Balling-light, you considering that as well? Quote "Reefs, like forests, will only be protected in long term if they are appreciated" Dr. J.E.N. Veron Australian Institute of Marine Science -----------------------------------------------------------------------Member of:UEN: T08SS0098FPlease visit us here: http://www.facebook....uaristSocietySG Facebook Group: http://www.facebook....gid=34281892381 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryz_ Posted August 17, 2009 Author Share Posted August 17, 2009 Bro, What salt-mix will you be using, FMLK balling needs salt-mix low in sodium chloride (NaCl). There are some trying out Balling-light, you considering that as well? Yup, Read about FM balling light method, if I never remember wrongly, they suggested TM pro special mineral.. But I wanna search for a more afforadable source... TM salt a bit on the high side for me.. Maybe will try Oceanic but will go read the content first.. I most likely will be doing balling light... Still figuring out what is the difference between balling light and normal balling.. Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryz_ Posted August 17, 2009 Author Share Posted August 17, 2009 I think found out the difference liao... Hehe.. The addition of trace elements and amino acids to the dosing is absence in Balling Light? I think will be following the traditional balling, with 4 containers, Ca, ALK, MG and trace elements. Hope I am not getting anything wrong here.. Anyone have sources to chemical salts in SG? Or should I buy the products off LFS shelf? Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gouldian Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Yup, Read about FM balling light method, if I never remember wrongly, they suggested TM pro special mineral.. But I wanna search for a more afforadable source... TM salt a bit on the high side for me.. Maybe will try Oceanic but will go read the content first.. I most likely will be doing balling light... Still figuring out what is the difference between balling light and normal balling.. The Balling Light includes trace elements, but skips many of the more complicated Amino Acid and NaCl free salt additions that are used in the Balling Complete Method. Instead it relies on the above Ca, Alk, and Mg ingredients and weekly 10% water changes. The weekly 10% water changes are to address a possible build up of NaCl. Thus if you intend to use normal salt-mix, Balling light is the way to go. http://www.ultimatereef.net/forums/showthread.php?t=226511 HTH Quote "Reefs, like forests, will only be protected in long term if they are appreciated" Dr. J.E.N. Veron Australian Institute of Marine Science -----------------------------------------------------------------------Member of:UEN: T08SS0098FPlease visit us here: http://www.facebook....uaristSocietySG Facebook Group: http://www.facebook....gid=34281892381 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryz_ Posted August 17, 2009 Author Share Posted August 17, 2009 This is a good starter guide.. Balling Method Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gouldian Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 This is a good starter guide..Balling Method I am aware that there are 3 brand offering balling in Singapore, are there anymore? 1) Grotech 2) Fauna Marin 3) Coral Shop Quote "Reefs, like forests, will only be protected in long term if they are appreciated" Dr. J.E.N. Veron Australian Institute of Marine Science -----------------------------------------------------------------------Member of:UEN: T08SS0098FPlease visit us here: http://www.facebook....uaristSocietySG Facebook Group: http://www.facebook....gid=34281892381 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryz_ Posted August 17, 2009 Author Share Posted August 17, 2009 I am aware that there are 3 brand offering balling in Singapore, are there anymore? 1) Grotech 2) Fauna Marin 3) Coral Shop I think that is all already.. Dun think there are anymore that offer balling.. Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gouldian Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 I think that is all already.. Dun think there are anymore that offer balling.. Just realized that Preis also offer Balling in Singapore. Anyway, Here's a good site with the different Balling options available. HTH Quote "Reefs, like forests, will only be protected in long term if they are appreciated" Dr. J.E.N. Veron Australian Institute of Marine Science -----------------------------------------------------------------------Member of:UEN: T08SS0098FPlease visit us here: http://www.facebook....uaristSocietySG Facebook Group: http://www.facebook....gid=34281892381 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryz_ Posted August 22, 2009 Author Share Posted August 22, 2009 Just realized that Preis also offer Balling in Singapore. Anyway, Here's a good site with the different Balling options available. HTH Thanks Joseph... Will my time to look around first.. Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohans Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Hi all, have been pondering to go for Balling method or stay with my initial plan for Calcium Reactor.. For me, it will be a mainly zoas, mush,yumas and softies tank.. With some assort monti cap and digi.. With the recent hike in electricity prices, I am turning to a cost efficient method, which is balling method, I am able to get variable dosing pump at a good price and they run at a lower wattage too.. So just wish to get some feedback about the balling method Vs calcium reactor.. Thanks.. Hi, Howz your balling system working so far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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