hk75 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Hi guys, Can anyone recommend me a skimmer for 4ft x 1.5 x 2ft tank. Will be making a 2 ft sump and diy a over flow pipe. But problem is, my cabinet internal height is only 490mm which is very low. Any good skimmer that could squeeze into my cabimet and place into the sump. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnsfpl Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 interested in outsump skimmer? i am selling of mine cheaply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo77 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 you may want to consider deltec MCE, APF & turbo series. You have to consider working space for your skimmer. If you cant take out the skimmer, you will have problem in future. Surf the net to check their capability. All the best. Quote Tank : 4 X 2 X 2 with low iron front panel and external overflow Skimmer : BK SM200 with waste collector Return Pumps : Red Dragon 6m3 and Ehiem 1262 FR : 2 X Deltec 509 & powered by AB2000 Nitrate Filter : Deltec NF 509 and tee off from AB2000 Calcium R'tor : Deltec PF 501 with RM secondary chamber Kalkwasser R'tor : Deltec KM500 Chiller : Pansonic 1 HP Compressor with 20m titanium Coil Wave Makers : 4 X Tunze 6055 with 7096 & Vortec MP40w Controller : GHL Profilux Lighting : ATI Powermodule 10 or 8 tubes Water Top-up : Water Top-Up tank powered by Tunze Osmolator External Monitor : American Pinpoint pH and Temp. Monitor for main tank and GHL Profilux Controller to measure temp, pH, Redox Ozonizer : Sander C50 UV : Corallife 6x Algae Scrubbler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk75 Posted June 8, 2009 Author Share Posted June 8, 2009 any difference between in and outside sump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member [V]tEc Posted June 8, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted June 8, 2009 any difference between in and outside sump? not much diff. out sump model can be use in sump too, but in sump can onli be in sump lol.......... for 4 ft u need a big skimmer but u have to fit it outside....no way a decent skimmer is 1ft in height Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk75 Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 Would like to check can Schuan Jetskim 100 suitable if i am going start with Fowlr and probably move into LPS later stage ? And Not very sure about what lighting, currently got a set of solite MH 150w x2 (6500k) + T5 55w daylight, should i change the MH light bulb to 10000k and T5 tube to blue plus, actinic ? What is the duration to ON both the MH and blue light for fowlr and LPS? hope some bro could help me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenkoh08 Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 i don't think fowlr need MH what you need is just daylight and this will be more then enough and the duration for it just bout 5hrs for it to swim around in bright daylight as for your skimmer out sump is better for your type of setting as it 4ft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk75 Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 bro. what about those blue lights, do i need it if in later stage move to LPS? whats the duration require? i don't think fowlr need MH what you need is just daylight and this will be more then enough and the duration for it just bout 5hrs for it to swim around in bright daylight as for your skimmer out sump is better for your type of setting as it 4ft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member [V]tEc Posted June 10, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted June 10, 2009 bro. what about those blue lights, do i need it if in later stage move to LPS? whats the duration require? for mi blue lights r on for 12 hrs, white light for 6 hrs....blue light is added to make ur tank look nicer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk75 Posted June 11, 2009 Author Share Posted June 11, 2009 bro thanks. What if i started with LPS? whats the light requirement and light "ON" duration? for mi blue lights r on for 12 hrs, white light for 6 hrs....blue light is added to make ur tank look nicer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Thexder Posted June 11, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted June 11, 2009 bro thanks.What if i started with LPS? whats the light requirement and light "ON" duration? 6-8 hrs of 10k-14k lighting should be sufficient. Actinic lighting for visual and illuminence viewing only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk75 Posted June 12, 2009 Author Share Posted June 12, 2009 6-8 hrs of 10k-14k lighting should be sufficient. Actinic lighting for visual and illuminence viewing only. thanks bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Vlamingi_cont Posted June 12, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted June 12, 2009 Hi guys, Can anyone recommend me a skimmer for 4ft x 1.5 x 2ft tank. Will be making a 2 ft sump and diy a over flow pipe. But problem is, my cabinet internal height is only 490mm which is very low. Any good skimmer that could squeeze into my cabimet and place into the sump. thanks Just bought a deltec mce-300... skimming well since i the run in period... If interested i pm u the place and price to buy it... Quote 1ft cube with IOS [the low tech tank] 1. JBJ C-breeze to keep temp hovering around 27-28'C 2. LED clip on - 120 bulbs -skimmer-less- My 3 humble equipments that keeps my tank running... [DRIED OUT] 1. The RSM itself of course 2.My NEW Deltec MCE-300 Skimmer 3. My trusty Arctica Chiller Tank parameters: Temperature maintained at 25.3'C to 24.7'C No3: 10ppm(b4 the use of the deltec skimmer) No3: 5ppm (after use of the skimmer) Others? too lazy to measure...LOL Camera- EOS 50D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member [V]tEc Posted June 12, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted June 12, 2009 Just bought a deltec mce-300... skimming well since i the run in period... If interested i pm u the place and price to buy it... bro pls dun mislead ppl.....mce 300 is not enuff for his 4ft tank.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Vlamingi_cont Posted June 13, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted June 13, 2009 bro pls dun mislead ppl.....mce 300 is not enuff for his 4ft tank.... Oops... I meant i would recommend a deltec skimmer... Paiseh... Quote 1ft cube with IOS [the low tech tank] 1. JBJ C-breeze to keep temp hovering around 27-28'C 2. LED clip on - 120 bulbs -skimmer-less- My 3 humble equipments that keeps my tank running... [DRIED OUT] 1. The RSM itself of course 2.My NEW Deltec MCE-300 Skimmer 3. My trusty Arctica Chiller Tank parameters: Temperature maintained at 25.3'C to 24.7'C No3: 10ppm(b4 the use of the deltec skimmer) No3: 5ppm (after use of the skimmer) Others? too lazy to measure...LOL Camera- EOS 50D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo77 Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 if you are getting deltec, the agent will be reef depot. If one is willing to spend money to buy good equipment, i suggest buy from agent and not those importers. It might be cheaper but the saving may not warrant good after sales service. Quote Tank : 4 X 2 X 2 with low iron front panel and external overflow Skimmer : BK SM200 with waste collector Return Pumps : Red Dragon 6m3 and Ehiem 1262 FR : 2 X Deltec 509 & powered by AB2000 Nitrate Filter : Deltec NF 509 and tee off from AB2000 Calcium R'tor : Deltec PF 501 with RM secondary chamber Kalkwasser R'tor : Deltec KM500 Chiller : Pansonic 1 HP Compressor with 20m titanium Coil Wave Makers : 4 X Tunze 6055 with 7096 & Vortec MP40w Controller : GHL Profilux Lighting : ATI Powermodule 10 or 8 tubes Water Top-up : Water Top-Up tank powered by Tunze Osmolator External Monitor : American Pinpoint pH and Temp. Monitor for main tank and GHL Profilux Controller to measure temp, pH, Redox Ozonizer : Sander C50 UV : Corallife 6x Algae Scrubbler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk75 Posted June 13, 2009 Author Share Posted June 13, 2009 thanks guys for the help i got a resale deltec apf600 today from a bro here. if you are getting deltec, the agent will be reef depot. If one is willing to spend money to buy good equipment, i suggest buy from agent and not those importers. It might be cheaper but the saving may not warrant good after sales service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo77 Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 you can check if there is reefdepot seal. If yes, the support will be there. If no, you may have to get the importer to assist. Happy reefing. : ) Quote Tank : 4 X 2 X 2 with low iron front panel and external overflow Skimmer : BK SM200 with waste collector Return Pumps : Red Dragon 6m3 and Ehiem 1262 FR : 2 X Deltec 509 & powered by AB2000 Nitrate Filter : Deltec NF 509 and tee off from AB2000 Calcium R'tor : Deltec PF 501 with RM secondary chamber Kalkwasser R'tor : Deltec KM500 Chiller : Pansonic 1 HP Compressor with 20m titanium Coil Wave Makers : 4 X Tunze 6055 with 7096 & Vortec MP40w Controller : GHL Profilux Lighting : ATI Powermodule 10 or 8 tubes Water Top-up : Water Top-Up tank powered by Tunze Osmolator External Monitor : American Pinpoint pH and Temp. Monitor for main tank and GHL Profilux Controller to measure temp, pH, Redox Ozonizer : Sander C50 UV : Corallife 6x Algae Scrubbler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk75 Posted June 14, 2009 Author Share Posted June 14, 2009 checked, not from RD if require servicing or parts replacement in future, which shop should i visit ? you can check if there is reefdepot seal. If yes, the support will be there. If no, you may have to get the importer to assist. Happy reefing. : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo77 Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 bro, check with the seller.......for RD....unlikely they will support.....even if you willing to pay. Since you got it....just use it. Dont think too much. Quote Tank : 4 X 2 X 2 with low iron front panel and external overflow Skimmer : BK SM200 with waste collector Return Pumps : Red Dragon 6m3 and Ehiem 1262 FR : 2 X Deltec 509 & powered by AB2000 Nitrate Filter : Deltec NF 509 and tee off from AB2000 Calcium R'tor : Deltec PF 501 with RM secondary chamber Kalkwasser R'tor : Deltec KM500 Chiller : Pansonic 1 HP Compressor with 20m titanium Coil Wave Makers : 4 X Tunze 6055 with 7096 & Vortec MP40w Controller : GHL Profilux Lighting : ATI Powermodule 10 or 8 tubes Water Top-up : Water Top-Up tank powered by Tunze Osmolator External Monitor : American Pinpoint pH and Temp. Monitor for main tank and GHL Profilux Controller to measure temp, pH, Redox Ozonizer : Sander C50 UV : Corallife 6x Algae Scrubbler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk75 Posted June 15, 2009 Author Share Posted June 15, 2009 confirmed. not form rd. think is from de. Pray nothing goes wrong when i began to use it. planning to start cycling in sep or oct. Currently been reading from various site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hehe Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 actually, can i ask wad exactly determine the efficiency of a skimmer? how u deem a skimmer good? u look at the circulation pump rite? as to how much is the air intake? and its power consumption? cos apparently, the different brands of skimmers their design looks the same, in the case of recirculating type, the only difference i find is the pump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo77 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 good question. Think no test done on all skimmers in simiilar conditions to assess their effectiveness in skimming out skimmate..... generally, ppl will see the workmanship, quality material , pump flow, air intake, energy consumption, consistency(subject to tunning or not), reliability, bubbles formed and how fine they are. Judging from current trend, needlewheel is the way to go......cone and bubble plate are popular to enhance the skimming, and size to determine enough contact surface(dont know how they compute or test), etc. Quote Tank : 4 X 2 X 2 with low iron front panel and external overflow Skimmer : BK SM200 with waste collector Return Pumps : Red Dragon 6m3 and Ehiem 1262 FR : 2 X Deltec 509 & powered by AB2000 Nitrate Filter : Deltec NF 509 and tee off from AB2000 Calcium R'tor : Deltec PF 501 with RM secondary chamber Kalkwasser R'tor : Deltec KM500 Chiller : Pansonic 1 HP Compressor with 20m titanium Coil Wave Makers : 4 X Tunze 6055 with 7096 & Vortec MP40w Controller : GHL Profilux Lighting : ATI Powermodule 10 or 8 tubes Water Top-up : Water Top-Up tank powered by Tunze Osmolator External Monitor : American Pinpoint pH and Temp. Monitor for main tank and GHL Profilux Controller to measure temp, pH, Redox Ozonizer : Sander C50 UV : Corallife 6x Algae Scrubbler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hehe Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 good question. Think no test done on all skimmers in simiilar conditions to assess their effectiveness in skimming out skimmate..... generally, ppl will see the pump flow, air intake, energy consumption, consistency(subject to tunning or not), reliability, bubbles formed and how fine they are. Judging from current trend, needlewheel is the way to go......cone and bubble plate are popular to enhance the skimming, and size to determine enough contact surface(dont know how they compute or test), etc. actually, deres another kind of wheel called the threadwheel tt ATI uses. seems to produce finer bubble, however frm the net, ATI skimmer cannot tune the air and water level. is tt true? another thing is u mention cone are used to enhance the skimming, dn y r dere ppl saying those skimmer tt has a cone inside the collection cup not efficient? any diff in coning the body and the collection cup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo77 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 never use ATI skimmer, hence not in a position to comment. For cone, some agree while others disagree......hence, go see the performance and if you are convinced, just go for it. There are ppl out there not using skimmer and are successful in this hobby. Me not expert enough to answer your queries...... Quote Tank : 4 X 2 X 2 with low iron front panel and external overflow Skimmer : BK SM200 with waste collector Return Pumps : Red Dragon 6m3 and Ehiem 1262 FR : 2 X Deltec 509 & powered by AB2000 Nitrate Filter : Deltec NF 509 and tee off from AB2000 Calcium R'tor : Deltec PF 501 with RM secondary chamber Kalkwasser R'tor : Deltec KM500 Chiller : Pansonic 1 HP Compressor with 20m titanium Coil Wave Makers : 4 X Tunze 6055 with 7096 & Vortec MP40w Controller : GHL Profilux Lighting : ATI Powermodule 10 or 8 tubes Water Top-up : Water Top-Up tank powered by Tunze Osmolator External Monitor : American Pinpoint pH and Temp. Monitor for main tank and GHL Profilux Controller to measure temp, pH, Redox Ozonizer : Sander C50 UV : Corallife 6x Algae Scrubbler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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