Which to select? AP701 or SM200??

[zaiqiu]

Hi Guys,

Appreciate some advice.

Am looking for a insump skimmer for my new 5x2x2 tank.

Undecided between Deltec AP701 or the Royal Exclusiv SuperMarines 200.

Deltec is $650 cheaper!! Understand Bubble King is the Skimmer Roll-Royce

Wonder whether it is really worth that extra $$...

Comment is most welcome.

[Solo77]

Bro, i think both are proven and very hard to say which is better. However, if you talk about power consumption, i think BK will have upper hand than Deltec. If money is not an issue, then go for BK, otherwise just go for deltec and spend the saving elsewhere. Just my 2 cents worth of opinion. Thanks.

[dfstan]

no need to think, BBK King !!! of course!

[ReDDeviLs]

the 701 can use outsump nxt time, SM cant..

but the SM looks impressive

[Solo77]

another thing....study the maintenance....hehehe.....u will know .....maybe not an issue to you.... : )

[zaiqiu]

Bro, i think both are proven and very hard to say which is better. However, if you talk about power consumption, i think BK will have upper hand than Deltec. If money is not an issue, then go for BK, otherwise just go for deltec and spend the saving elsewhere. Just my 2 cents worth of opinion. Thanks.

I would think in terms of performance, BK is better.

But whether does it deserves the price delta....

Esp the price delta can get me a MP40W pump

Did some simple calculation:

Assume price difference of $550 between the 2 (after discount )

New electrical tariff of $0.3045/kwh

AP701 using 1260 pump (65w) and needs feed pump (say 10w AB1000)

Total power is 75w vs SM200 using 35w.

Every day, AP701 would consume 40/1000 x 24 x $0.3045 =~ $0.30

To be on par in cost would need (550/0.30)/365 = 5 years!!

[Solo77]

hehehe......at times.....buying something cannot be too rational......why buy rolex if one casio can function the same.....lol

[Solo77]

Bro, use gravity feed....than it will take more years to recover the saving.......it boils down to your willingness to spend........

[zaiqiu]

Bro, use gravity feed....than it will take more years to recover the saving.......it boils down to your willingness to spend........

Heard that to achieve the optimum performance with deltec, the water feed supply should be constant.

Best is to have additional feed pump rather than doing the gravity feed....

Furthermore additional 10w doesnt make much difference

[zaiqiu]

hehehe......at times.....buying something cannot be too rational......why buy rolex if one casio can function the same.....lol

ppl wear rolex so that others can see......

skimmer put in sump, inside cabinet....

cant see also

[dfstan]

for your size of tank, you sure SM200 is enfu?

[Solo77]

haha....ppl already know you getting deltec or Bk....wahaha.....Know ppl who use gravity feed and successful .....maybe can get their advice.

any test to compare their skimming and to determine one is more superior than the other? Will be interested to know how the test was conducted and result...

Need more BK users in singapore.....hehehe....GO for BK.

[ReDDeviLs]

i also heard a feeder pump is better to be constant.

do bare in mind if u r using wavebox or havinga wavebox effect in your tank, gravity feed will not be a gd idea i think.

[zaiqiu]

for your size of tank, you sure SM200 is enfu?

My volume works out to be around 700L.

SM200 can take up to 800-2000L

[zaiqiu]

haha....ppl already know you getting deltec or Bk....wahaha.....Know ppl who use gravity feed and successful .....maybe can get their advice.

any test to compare their skimming and to determine one is more superior than the other? Will be interested to know how the test was conducted and result...

Need more BK users in singapore.....hehehe....GO for BK.

Seem like there arent many BK users in Singapore. Mainly due to the distributor rights.

Finally RD managed to obtain the rights to bring in to SG.

Hence not much feedback/comment from BK users in Singapore.

Only found a few threads in reef central......

[dachkie]

bro ur post already seem to imply that u are more incline to Deltec, then just get it in case after getting BK u tell urself aiyah just liddat ar.

[zaiqiu]

bro ur post already seem to imply that u are more incline to Deltec, then just get it in case after getting BK u tell urself aiyah just liddat ar.

Ya main driving force is the cheaper cost.....

But SM200 really tempting

Seems like with broader neck, it's able to extract nutrients more efficiently....

[dachkie]

ok i got a suggestion for u, get the BK 1st then if u find not gd enuff sell lor

or better still get both so u can compare, then see if the BK is worth it not

[Rex Ng]

I saw this interesting post in : http://www.aquariumpros.ca/forums/showthre...?threadid=30691

Anyone know that Red Dragon and Bubble King skimmer pump are the same as Hagen Laguna Max-Flo pond pump?

[Rex Ng]

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[iewnehz]

Laguna pond is for freshwater. Any idea can it last in saltwater and cost 4-5 times more for RD and BK pump OEM?