OMG! Look at these hybrids and rare fishes!

[yikai]

All of these are capable to change their sex yeah?

yes.

all born as juveniles that will eventually grow to females only.

then female to male depending on situation.

[Digiman]

Rare Gardner's Butterfly (Chaetodon Gadineri). They sell for S$400 each in Japan.

[Terryz_]

Another similar species that I like... Chaetodon selene... Uncommon although found in Indonesia also...

[yikai]

why is gardinier so ex!?

$400 is crazy!

selene nicer. the oblique rows of yellow is very unique!

[Digiman]

why is gardinier so ex!?

$400 is crazy!

selene nicer. the oblique rows of yellow is very unique!

Cos it's rare, in fact v hard to obtain. Not even sure wat kind of shipment can get gardner. I believe probably red sea (egypt source) or africa shipment.

[yikai]

Cos it's rare, in fact v hard to obtain. Not even sure wat kind of shipment can get gardner. I believe probably red sea (egypt source) or africa shipment.

red sea and gulf of aden. but sri lanka also have.

not very deep water. 15m-91m but fishbase list around 20m.

shouldnt be as ex as $400 omg.

selene can be found in indonesia. 20m-50m according to fishbase.

but also never see them here.

here's dr. tanaka's 5cm selene.

cheap and very hardy according to him. eats everything including flakes.

[yikai]

house of fins rare fish sale!

can u ID all of them?

also have gem tang but i never update the photo.

[Terryz_]

red sea and gulf of aden. but sri lanka also have.

not very deep water. 15m-91m but fishbase list around 20m.

shouldnt be as ex as $400 omg.

selene can be found in indonesia. 20m-50m according to fishbase.

but also never see them here.

here's dr. tanaka's 5cm selene.

cheap and very hardy according to him. eats everything including flakes.

The selene is not a good shipper is what I heard all will come DOA...

[yikai]

The selene is not a good shipper is what I heard all will come DOA...

u hear from where?

got news about selene meh?

[pokmingsheng]

4th most common genicanthus, is

Genicanthus watanabei.

we are now bordering on the rare-zone for this genus.

hwo to differentiate male and female?

very obvious!

i understand keeping a pair is the most ideal...

but will keeping a lone Male cause it to change to female in the long run?

[yikai]

i understand keeping a pair is the most ideal...

but will keeping a lone Male cause it to change to female in the long run?

keeping a pair may not even be ideal!

sometimes males will still undergo reverse sex change back to females even when kept in a pair.

artificially formed pairs from lfs usually do not work. that is why the best way to get a male and retain the male is to get a group of females and let one of the female sex change into a male. the social interaction and heirachy status is solid and cemented this way.

keeping a single male will 100% revert back to female.

the only thing is when.

sometimes immediately after a few days, or sometimes after a few weeks.

however, sometimes if you keep just one female, the female will sex change into a male as it dominates every other fish in the tank. that's the only way you can get a male without keeping it with a female.

[pokmingsheng]

keeping a pair may not even be ideal!

sometimes males will still undergo reverse sex change back to females even when kept in a pair.

artificially formed pairs from lfs usually do not work. that is why the best way to get a male and retain the male is to get a group of females and let one of the female sex change into a male. the social interaction and heirachy status is solid and cemented this way.

keeping a single male will 100% revert back to female.

the only thing is when.

sometimes immediately after a few days, or sometimes after a few weeks.

however, sometimes if you keep just one female, the female will sex change into a male as it dominates every other fish in the tank. that's the only way you can get a male without keeping it with a female.

very interesting...

thanks for ur input...

will monitor my current solo Male very carefully..

now its like halfway through,

i dont even know its going from female to male, or male to female...

[Terryz_]

u hear from where?

got news about selene meh?

From one of the reputable LFS, I asked before as he ordered before... and the Selene that comes are normally adult, rarely get juveniles..

[Digiman]

The small conspic x meredithi that went to HK:

[yikai]

very interesting...

thanks for ur input...

will monitor my current solo Male very carefully..

now its like halfway through,

i dont even know its going from female to male, or male to female...

confirm will go back to female.

[Digiman]

Beautiful Gramma Dejongi

[Jameshong]

The small conspic x meredithi that went to HK:

Beautiful n nice color !

[peacemaker]

Beautiful Gramma Dejongi

:thumbsup:

[cool guy]

I wan tat dejongi... When will e price drop... 

[yikai]

I wan tat dejongi... When will e price drop... 

be prepared to wait years.

the U.S people can't even get them because of the embargo with Cuba. most specimens make it to japan and europe.

[Digiman]

I wan tat dejongi... When will e price drop... 

Will be a v long wait.

Obtainable thru M3 if u one day u r willing to drop 4500 on the fish.

[cool guy]

 4.5k.... Wait til im rich hor... 

[Digiman]

Beautiful taiwan fishes!

Maze Angels

Blue lines

Selene and modestus

[Terryz_]

Beautiful taiwan fishes!

Maze Angels

Blue lines

Selene and modestus

Love the selene and modestus... Modestus found in Taiwan also???

[Digiman]

Love the selene and modestus... Modestus found in Taiwan also???

Yes. China, taiwan and Japan waters.