OMG! Look at these hybrids and rare fishes!

[yikai]

According to article, the difference is in the colour, xmas more orange while hawaii more red. The barring is highly variable in xmas species, so using barrings as a gauge is not v accurate and definitely not convincing.

Never mind u can send your pic to Dr Tanaka, Copps and GB to see wat's their take on this.

ok.

i've sent the pic to john coppolino, Hiroyuki tanaka, eric michael and my thailand friend.

we'll see what they have to say.

i'll ask them if this is the true hawaii flame, and if not, how do i tell it from the xmas island variant?

to be honest i don't really care if it is the hawaiian one or not. i like it because it's very red and it makes a strong contrast with my other one with many bars.

so together it's very nice.

[Digiman]

Red sea shipment in Japan:

Look at the number of butterflies.. Golden, heniochus, larvatus, mesoleucos.. and one butterfly is still missing! That is the pauscifasciatus. Has it become so rare tat even Japan is not getting them anymore!

[Digiman]

V rare Armitagei Angelfish from Maldive.

This angel is a rare hybrid of xanthurus angel and trimaculatus angel and is imported only from Maldive.

If i remember right, AM brought in an armitagei angel years ago!

[Digiman]

Emperor angelfish is one of the most common angel we can get here.

But large specimen with perfect straight lines and streamer is v rare.

Below is a magnificent specimen, and a huge one of course:

[Digiman]

Coradion Altivelis Pair, rare from australia shipment

Prognathode Aculeatus (rare from carribbean shipment) and Prognathode Marcellae (West Africa shipment, suppose to come in from previous Iwarna shipment but in the end dun hav!)

Chaetodon Frembli (uncommon butterfly from Hawaii shipment, small size more desirable)

Chaetodon Reticulatus Juvenile (Rare at this size and even rarer to keep alive this obligate coral eater)

[yikai]

Red sea shipment in Japan:

Look at the number of butterflies.. Golden, heniochus, larvatus, mesoleucos.. and one butterfly is still missing! That is the pauscifasciatus. Has it become so rare tat even Japan is not getting them anymore!

this was how they were sold in HK.

the semilarvatus in one tub

the heniochus intermedius in one tub

and the mesoleucos + larvatus in one tub.

not sure why.

[Digiman]

Hybrid lemonpeel

Deep orange Fisheri

V rare Philippines Flame angelfish. Philippines flame are more yellowish orange in colour compared to the redder christmas flame.

My personal favourite, hybrid rusty flame!

[Digiman]

this was how they were sold in HK.

the semilarvatus in one tub

the heniochus intermedius in one tub

and the mesoleucos + larvatus in one tub.

not sure why.

The pics were taken from a Japan LFS.

We shall see how singapore LFS will distribute the butterflyfish when our red sea shipments arrive.

[yikai]

philippine flame angel was offered for sale before.

only 5 came.

but none made it as far as i know. my pair died despite feeding as usual.

terryz one i dunno still alive or not.

[Digiman]

philippine flame angel was offered for sale before.

only 5 came.

but none made it as far as i know. my pair died despite feeding as usual.

terryz one i dunno still alive or not.

Terryz one died also. LCF425(Jon) has two i think but he sold them. So i believe there may be still two philippines flame that are alive out there!

[Terryz_]

philippine flame angel was offered for sale before.

only 5 came.

but none made it as far as i know. my pair died despite feeding as usual.

terryz one i dunno still alive or not.

Yes, But it doesnt look like the one posted..

[Digiman]

Yes, But it doesnt look like the one posted..

Yours still alive? I tot die liao. Ok so then u hav a v rare flame angel, dun kill it!

[yikai]

the two that jon has was from terryz no?

anyway digi your philippine flame u posted is a rusty x flame i think.

philippine flame look like normal flames but more orangey-yellow.

the one u posted shape is different.

[Terryz_]

Terryz one died also. LCF425(Jon) has two i think but he sold them. So i believe there may be still two philippines flame that are alive out there!

The one I am holdng is jon one...

[Terryz_]

the two that jon has was from terryz no?

anyway digi your philippine flame u posted is a rusty x flame i think.

philippine flame look like normal flames but more orangey-yellow.

the one u posted shape is different.

Jon only have 1 Philippines flame which he sold back to me... The other he sold is a flame from hawaii shipment, JUst that is is small one..

[Terryz_]

the two that jon has was from terryz no?

anyway digi your philippine flame u posted is a rusty x flame i think.

philippine flame look like normal flames but more orangey-yellow.

the one u posted shape is different.

Anywa long story... LOL... Ya...Look like rustyx flame..

[yikai]

digi, terryz, here's a tough one for u.

wat's this? i also dunno wats this.

maybe a very weird flame?

[Terryz_]

digi, terryz, here's a tough one for u.

wat's this? i also dunno wats this.

maybe a very weird flame?

Looks deepwater to me.. LOL...

[Digiman]

the two that jon has was from terryz no?

anyway digi your philippine flame u posted is a rusty x flame i think.

philippine flame look like normal flames but more orangey-yellow.

the one u posted shape is different.

Yes maybe. Cos the website was in japanese and the pic was placed under the section of philippines shipment.

Since it does not look so rusty hybrid to me i assume it is a pure philippines flame.

But philippines flames i feel the gene pool has been tainted now, so slowly the flames and the rusty flames will resemble each other more and more and become hard to tell a pure flame from a rusty flame. Then eventually pure flame will be taken over and the whole population will be left with just rusty flame and become like Guam of which the same how Copps postulated the evolution and origination of Shepardi angels.

[Digiman]

digi, terryz, here's a tough one for u.

wat's this? i also dunno wats this.

maybe a very weird flame?

Aberrant flame. And may be photoshopped.

[cool guy]

digi, terryz, here's a tough one for u.

wat's this? i also dunno wats this.

maybe a very weird flame?

look retarded but nice... i would buy it if avail...

[yikai]

look retarded but nice... i would buy it if avail...

looks kinda scary but unique in it's own way.

[Eniram]

Link to juvenile angels

[yikai]

Link to juvenile angels

ah yes thanks for linking this.

i remember writing this long ago. people who are interested to id the babies can start here. it's not that difficult. but will take awhile to get used to.

after awhile, it comes naturally. like driving.

[Digiman]

Cant get enough of Lennardi Wrasse!

Here is a small female, 2+" only for sale at LADD.

Here is a transitioning male in HD video.

And here is a nice male: