Senior Reefer yikai Posted October 7, 2011 Senior Reefer Share Posted October 7, 2011 All of these are capable to change their sex yeah? yes. all born as juveniles that will eventually grow to females only. then female to male depending on situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digiman Posted October 7, 2011 Author Share Posted October 7, 2011 Rare Gardner's Butterfly (Chaetodon Gadineri). They sell for S$400 each in Japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryz_ Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Another similar species that I like... Chaetodon selene... Uncommon although found in Indonesia also... Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Reefer yikai Posted October 7, 2011 Senior Reefer Share Posted October 7, 2011 why is gardinier so ex!? $400 is crazy! selene nicer. the oblique rows of yellow is very unique! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digiman Posted October 7, 2011 Author Share Posted October 7, 2011 why is gardinier so ex!? $400 is crazy! selene nicer. the oblique rows of yellow is very unique! Cos it's rare, in fact v hard to obtain. Not even sure wat kind of shipment can get gardner. I believe probably red sea (egypt source) or africa shipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Reefer yikai Posted October 7, 2011 Senior Reefer Share Posted October 7, 2011 Cos it's rare, in fact v hard to obtain. Not even sure wat kind of shipment can get gardner. I believe probably red sea (egypt source) or africa shipment. red sea and gulf of aden. but sri lanka also have. not very deep water. 15m-91m but fishbase list around 20m. shouldnt be as ex as $400 omg. selene can be found in indonesia. 20m-50m according to fishbase. but also never see them here. here's dr. tanaka's 5cm selene. cheap and very hardy according to him. eats everything including flakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Reefer yikai Posted October 7, 2011 Senior Reefer Share Posted October 7, 2011 house of fins rare fish sale! can u ID all of them? also have gem tang but i never update the photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryz_ Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 red sea and gulf of aden. but sri lanka also have. not very deep water. 15m-91m but fishbase list around 20m. shouldnt be as ex as $400 omg. selene can be found in indonesia. 20m-50m according to fishbase. but also never see them here. here's dr. tanaka's 5cm selene. cheap and very hardy according to him. eats everything including flakes. The selene is not a good shipper is what I heard all will come DOA... Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Reefer yikai Posted October 7, 2011 Senior Reefer Share Posted October 7, 2011 The selene is not a good shipper is what I heard all will come DOA... u hear from where? got news about selene meh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member pokmingsheng Posted October 7, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted October 7, 2011 4th most common genicanthus, is Genicanthus watanabei. we are now bordering on the rare-zone for this genus. hwo to differentiate male and female? very obvious! i understand keeping a pair is the most ideal... but will keeping a lone Male cause it to change to female in the long run? Quote My Decomissioned 2ft Cube: (31st March 2011) Carpe Diem~!!! My Current 4ft X 2ft X 2ft: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Reefer yikai Posted October 7, 2011 Senior Reefer Share Posted October 7, 2011 i understand keeping a pair is the most ideal... but will keeping a lone Male cause it to change to female in the long run? keeping a pair may not even be ideal! sometimes males will still undergo reverse sex change back to females even when kept in a pair. artificially formed pairs from lfs usually do not work. that is why the best way to get a male and retain the male is to get a group of females and let one of the female sex change into a male. the social interaction and heirachy status is solid and cemented this way. keeping a single male will 100% revert back to female. the only thing is when. sometimes immediately after a few days, or sometimes after a few weeks. however, sometimes if you keep just one female, the female will sex change into a male as it dominates every other fish in the tank. that's the only way you can get a male without keeping it with a female. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member pokmingsheng Posted October 7, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted October 7, 2011 keeping a pair may not even be ideal! sometimes males will still undergo reverse sex change back to females even when kept in a pair. artificially formed pairs from lfs usually do not work. that is why the best way to get a male and retain the male is to get a group of females and let one of the female sex change into a male. the social interaction and heirachy status is solid and cemented this way. keeping a single male will 100% revert back to female. the only thing is when. sometimes immediately after a few days, or sometimes after a few weeks. however, sometimes if you keep just one female, the female will sex change into a male as it dominates every other fish in the tank. that's the only way you can get a male without keeping it with a female. very interesting... thanks for ur input... will monitor my current solo Male very carefully.. now its like halfway through, i dont even know its going from female to male, or male to female... Quote My Decomissioned 2ft Cube: (31st March 2011) Carpe Diem~!!! My Current 4ft X 2ft X 2ft: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryz_ Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 u hear from where? got news about selene meh? From one of the reputable LFS, I asked before as he ordered before... and the Selene that comes are normally adult, rarely get juveniles.. Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digiman Posted October 8, 2011 Author Share Posted October 8, 2011 The small conspic x meredithi that went to HK: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Reefer yikai Posted October 8, 2011 Senior Reefer Share Posted October 8, 2011 very interesting... thanks for ur input... will monitor my current solo Male very carefully.. now its like halfway through, i dont even know its going from female to male, or male to female... confirm will go back to female. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digiman Posted October 8, 2011 Author Share Posted October 8, 2011 Beautiful Gramma Dejongi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jameshong Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 The small conspic x meredithi that went to HK: Beautiful n nice color ! Quote Knowing is not enough; we must apply. Willing is not enough; we must do. - Goethe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member peacemaker Posted October 8, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted October 8, 2011 Beautiful Gramma Dejongi :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member cool guy Posted October 8, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted October 8, 2011 I wan tat dejongi... When will e price drop... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Reefer yikai Posted October 8, 2011 Senior Reefer Share Posted October 8, 2011 I wan tat dejongi... When will e price drop... be prepared to wait years. the U.S people can't even get them because of the embargo with Cuba. most specimens make it to japan and europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digiman Posted October 8, 2011 Author Share Posted October 8, 2011 I wan tat dejongi... When will e price drop... Will be a v long wait. Obtainable thru M3 if u one day u r willing to drop 4500 on the fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member cool guy Posted October 8, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted October 8, 2011 4.5k.... Wait til im rich hor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digiman Posted October 9, 2011 Author Share Posted October 9, 2011 Beautiful taiwan fishes! Maze Angels Blue lines Selene and modestus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryz_ Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Beautiful taiwan fishes! Maze Angels Blue lines Selene and modestus Love the selene and modestus... Modestus found in Taiwan also??? Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digiman Posted October 9, 2011 Author Share Posted October 9, 2011 Love the selene and modestus... Modestus found in Taiwan also??? Yes. China, taiwan and Japan waters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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