AquaBee 2000/1 rate (important)

[vt_snowman87]

hi all,

was researching abt AquaBee pumps, as estimated return rate for my 2cube should be abt 2000L/H, so i thot aquabee 2000i would be a good choice.

however, as i am using a shared sump, the pump would go thru abt 1.3m height, and following 1.3m horizontal distance before reaching my tank.

managed to find this chart on AquaBee website, that states if i hit 1.3m head, the flow rate would only be 1000+ L/H.. is it being read this way?

also one more question: when the pump box says for eg, "Head: 2m" etc, it's referring to height only? or inclusive of horizontal distances..

sorry for the newbie questions, do enlighten me.. thanks..

http://www.aquabee-aquarientechnik.de/e_index.htm

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[LaW]

hi all,

was researching abt AquaBee pumps, as estimated return rate for my 2cube should be abt 2000L/H, so i thot aquabee 2000i would be a good choice.

however, as i am using a shared sump, the pump would go thru abt 1.3m height, and following 1.3m horizontal distance before reaching my tank.

managed to find this chart on AquaBee website, that states if i hit 1.3m head, the flow rate would only be 1000+ L/H.. is it being read this way?

also one more question: when the pump box says for eg, "Head: 2m" etc, it's referring to height only? or inclusive of horizontal distances..

sorry for the newbie questions, do enlighten me.. thanks..

http://www.aquabee-aquarientechnik.de/e_index.htm

yes its read that way.

however, that one is for Height reference only, without including horizontal height.

however from an article i read, 1Vertical = 6Horizontal, for example, 6m horizontal is about 1m vertical. so you might want to take that as a reference. and of course, that doesnt include elbows, coupling, vavles or unions

for ur case, 1.3m (V) + 1.3m (H) = 1.3m (V) + 0.217m (V) = 1.517m (V)

so read from 1.52m Head instead. From the graph, its around 1250l/hr

as usual its just for reference.

hope you will find this information useful

happy reefing

[vt_snowman87]

thanks Law,

thats very useful for my calculations.. :)

heard from a reefer bro that there's still good feedback for aquabees.. but chart-wise and according to their statistics, very interesting fact that the pump strength declines so much at 1m..

[LaW]

thanks Law,

thats very useful for my calculations.. :)

heard from a reefer bro that there's still good feedback for aquabees.. but chart-wise and according to their statistics, very interesting fact that the pump strength declines so much at 1m..

anytime dude. aquabees are not pressure rated so performance will drop quite abit when it comes to height. but still aquabees are still good pumps considering durability, noise level and energy efficiency.

happy reefing mate!

[vt_snowman87]

oh so i guess that's why..

i have a better idea now on which pump is more suitable for my setup..

sorry 1 more question, would RIO and Eheim be better for achieving distances..?

[vt_snowman87]

saw a chart from RIO pumps,

rio pumps tends to be better at pressure rating.

guess the perfect return pump for my tank is rio12, because from the table, at 1.5m, its abt 2k L/H, coupled with outlet return from chiller it would be abt 2.3k L/H.

now the question is, how accurate is the table from RIO pumps.. shloud i go a little bigger and get rio14 or rio12..

[LaW]

saw a chart from RIO pumps,

rio pumps tends to be better at pressure rating.

guess the perfect return pump for my tank is rio12, because from the table, at 1.5m, its abt 2k L/H, coupled with outlet return from chiller it would be abt 2.3k L/H.

now the question is, how accurate is the table from RIO pumps.. shloud i go a little bigger and get rio14 or rio12..

Rio pumps, IMO, are noisey. unless noise is not a factor for you. go for it and from previous experience from pple here, rio pumps is rather "what you pay is what you get". I personally using 2 HF32 at the moment, complain is that its noisey sometime but i leave it in the living room, so it wont hurt my family much. I would always go for the larger flow, why not right? but dun do it till too extreme lah.

[LaW]

oh so i guess that's why..

i have a better idea now on which pump is more suitable for my setup..

sorry 1 more question, would RIO and Eheim be better for achieving distances..?

that im unsure off, im using eheims mostly for my filtration equipments and RioHF for returns. for that you will need to use the chart for comparison.

ehiem good quality, reviewed having a long life, but energy consumption is rather higher by quite a fair bit. i would suggest try to go for RioHyperflow series if you want to save money on both equipment and electricity bills. But also be prepared that Rio is still "what you pay is what you get" kind of stuff.

[vt_snowman87]

thanks lots for the advice bro Law, my sentiments exactly, gotten all the answers i needed..

decision is to go for Rio.. my tanks are in the livin rm so no harm..

u have been a great help bro, cheers and reef on!

[MbmC]

saw a chart from RIO pumps,

rio pumps tends to be better at pressure rating.

guess the perfect return pump for my tank is rio12, because from the table, at 1.5m, its abt 2k L/H, coupled with outlet return from chiller it would be abt 2.3k L/H.

now the question is, how accurate is the table from RIO pumps.. shloud i go a little bigger and get rio14 or rio12..

Like I alluded to in my PM, I've tried using a Rio 10 pump before. I think the max head rating is optimistic at best. The Aquabee 2000I in the same setup performs much much better. And LaW is right. Rio is DARN nosiy. The aquabee could well be a small honeybee, barely a whisper. Only the Eheim performed better than the aquabee, and was quieter as well. But I had to sell it off as my sump was too small for the pump.

[vt_snowman87]

that is true bro Mbmc, heard from a bro that rio is very noisy.. thanks for ur input, guess its differing views and what suits different situations.. i will think abt it, and do some comparison to see which suits my needs..

thanks to all bros for ur valuable inputs..

[PROX]

Old thread but i guess i need to revive it again.

I have tested eheim 1260, 1262 and 1264 and found out that it is not silent as claimed. I tried to reduce the vibration of the pump using 10mm insulflex but still failed to eliminate the humming noise. As for the return pipe configuration, I am using eheim soft tubing. Disappointed with Eheim even I am a strong supporter for this brand. It seems their pump is not living up to my expectation except for the canister filter + air pump.

I will be using Aquabee 2000/1 for my return pump. Tested it and I can't hear much noise compare to Eheim. I can hear the humming noise ~2-3ft away from my tank.

[tunicate]

Well I've had a 1250 previously in my old IOS tank. It hardly made a sqweak. One of the quietest pump I'v experienced.

[PROX]

1250 is rated half of 1260. ~1200 l/h compare to 2400 l/h.

Eheim advertised the 1260/1262 as "quiet" but from what I experience, it is still far from quiet. Anyone got any experience to share? Can't seem to find much info about Aquabee 2000/1

[bellinayu]

All pumps do have a certain amount of noise. I use eheim for all my pumps(1250, 1260, 1262, 1264). I choose ehim becos of it's reliability. Noise level is fine with me. With regular maintenance, these pumps can last you a few years.

[PROX]

Update: I have gotten Eheim to sort it out. I am surprise they called me so quick after i wrote in. Excellent customer service. Gotta give them a thumbs up for this.

I might get a defective unit because they said the unit is supposed to be silent. We will see how it goes. I will update again once I have gotten the answer. Thanks all.

bellinayu - According to Qian Hu, it is supposed to be quiet.

[tunicate]

Noise is quite subjective unless one measures it with a dosimeter. And it matters if the pump is located in an enclosed cabinet or not, or if the pump is running in-sump, or out-sump.