ID experts needed

[ambystoma82]

this fella pratically harmless

but just want to knw e name for it..

its a big eater and reproduce by e 10s...

now my tank inside got abt 100of them..mixed turbo snail..

r they abalone or snail species??

[ambystoma82]

it dun look like slug due to its feeler

never c b4 a snail shell so small one...

[ambystoma82]

it also have it black counter buddies..

duno y got black...mayb it decide to go multiracial in my tank..

[ambystoma82]

a hijacker tht couldnt b bother with me..

[reeftask]

a hijacker tht couldnt b bother with me..

kill it fast! This is unwanted bristle worm.

[reeftask]

1st and 3rd pic seems like a slug.

2nd pic seems like a snail

[ambystoma82]

slug their feelers nt like tht one lehz..

e best part is... it got defense skill like a lizard loh..

can shed of part of its flesh to escape...

[kareen]

Any expert to id? Interest to know that as well 'cos I have observe that critter in my tank too.... My observation tells me that they r algae eater after light off.

I was wondering r these some kind of abalone (the shell) 'cos I have bought 1 long time ago(from ML, Henry) which looks similar except for the size difference. The one I bought was huge (1 to 2") compare to those found in my tank now (<2cm). I have not been able to see that big guy anymore....

Does it able to lay and fertilise the eggs by itself?

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_di...?pcatid=561&N=4

[ambystoma82]

my tank now is a snail factory lehz..

lolx..

even got 1 nassarius snail duno come out from where...

does ur abalone die off in a very clean surface tank compartment?

cus they die off themselves when inside my sump e glass r super clean in there

maybe they die with nth to feed on..

[ambystoma82]

end up i still ID it myself finally found e name for it..

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-05/rs/index.php

check this out

figure 11....

it also fits e description of lizard alike tail breaking off feature..

[ambystoma82]

Any expert to id? Interest to know that as well 'cos I have observe that critter in my tank too.... My observation tells me that they r algae eater after light off.

I was wondering r these some kind of abalone (the shell) 'cos I have bought 1 long time ago(from ML, Henry) which looks similar except for the size difference. The one I bought was huge (1 to 2") compare to those found in my tank now (<2cm). I have not been able to see that big guy anymore....

Does it able to lay and fertilise the eggs by itself?

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_di...?pcatid=561&N=4

ML gt sell so small size abalone mehz?

i thought they sell one got 7 holes on its shell...

my too small to have even one hole.. lolx..

[Terryz_]

Those are Stomatella Snails...

Have a lot of them in my tank... Mostly night dwellers and eats algae...

I dunno if the black is the same species.. Haha...

And that is a fireworm, not the normal bristle we see and can inflict a few burning bristle if you accidentally touch them...

[kareen]

my tank now is a snail factory lehz..

lolx..

even got 1 nassarius snail duno come out from where...

does ur abalone die off in a very clean surface tank compartment?

cus they die off themselves when inside my sump e glass r super clean in there

maybe they die with nth to feed on..

Haha.. tell me about it.... Me too after lights off. I have basically 2 type of snails producing factory (base on their shell shape) which I do not know their name. Lucky they are algae eater type (I think) that's why never bother to find out the species.

For me, I do observe some empty shells inside my tank not sump or overflow which could be due to either the copperband or sixlines wrasse. However, I have not been able to witness the killing yet.

As for your case, you may need to investigate further on the pH level? My reason is that basic instint is in every creature in nature and they should be able to find their way to get their food unless your tank has been cleaned off of all algae....

[kareen]

end up i still ID it myself finally found e name for it..

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-05/rs/index.php

check this out

figure 11....

it also fits e description of lizard alike tail breaking off feature..

Cool... the power of sharing.

I bought the abalone long, long, long time ago....

[ambystoma82]

Those are Stomatella Snails...

Have a lot of them in my tank... Mostly night dwellers and eats algae...

I dunno if the black is the same species.. Haha...

And that is a fireworm, not the normal bristle we see and can inflict a few burning bristle if you accidentally touch them...

after hear u say tht i would reali feel like touching it..

try burning e owner... lolx...

[ambystoma82]

Cool... the power of sharing.

I bought the abalone long, long, long time ago....

omg how long cant tht be ?

btw ur copperband eat them arhz?

they neber say nt nice to eat arhz?

i touch e snail very smelly lehz after they lose their tail they gt a smell...

of all e snails i think if u no keep clams snails r our friends... lolx...

if any1 nid e snails pls let me knw..

of cus nid to clean my tank rite?

now e snails makin frens with my amphipods i tink becomin more n more natural liaoz..

already 2 mths neber change water tink becoming a natural system..

shit = phospate = algae = snail eat = Y IS MY TANK GLASS STILL SO DIRTY????

but i cant find a single diatom in my tank.. lolx..

[kareen]

omg how long cant tht be ?

btw ur copperband eat them arhz?

they neber say nt nice to eat arhz?

i touch e snail very smelly lehz after they lose their tail they gt a smell...

of all e snails i think if u no keep clams snails r our friends... lolx...

if any1 nid e snails pls let me knw..

of cus nid to clean my tank rite?

now e snails makin frens with my amphipods i tink becomin more n more natural liaoz..

already 2 mths neber change water tink becoming a natural system..

shit = phospate = algae = snail eat = Y IS MY TANK GLASS STILL SO DIRTY????

but i cant find a single diatom in my tank.. lolx..

The long time is something like 2 or 3 years back.....

Seriously, I do not know for sure. That is my guess 'cos with a flame angle, a BT, a YT, 2 anthia, a percula clown, a copperband, a sixlines wrasse and finally 4 cleaner shrimps.... they seems likely to be the killer else it may hint problem... I did not see a lot of empty shells, just some lying if I look closely so I conclude it to be killing from the fish.....

BTW, why do you say that if no clams then snail is your friend? Pls enlighten 'cos I do have clams in my tank....

[reeftask]

Those are Stomatella Snails...

Have a lot of them in my tank... Mostly night dwellers and eats algae...

I dunno if the black is the same species.. Haha...

And that is a fireworm, not the normal bristle we see and can inflict a few burning bristle if you accidentally touch them...

how do you differentiate them?

[Terryz_]

Fireworm

Bristleworm

Fireworm is much thicker and bigger and have much more bristles than the normal bristleworm...

[kareen]

Terryz... for putting up such nice comparison of the two. I used to have difficulty in telling them apart... Now I know better.

[ambystoma82]

haha i b eagar to catch it out..lol...

cus snail is e worse enemy of clams loh

but i 4get what species the snail is already..

[Terryz_]

Those are pyramid snails...

Something like this...

Taken off another forum...

[ambystoma82]

clam snails normally have a sharp spiral shape

so they can use their shell n dig into e mantle even when dun clam is close..

then lay eggs inside...

ur clam mayb have nt die till e cocoon of snails to b hatch inside... = DIE....

[kareen]

so much for putting up a pic. So far I have not spot any pyramid snails yet....

PS: found something on net about where to inspect....

"Inspection of the edge of the mantle and the byssal of clams"

[kareen]

Hm... both look pretty similar... perhaps only the size tells....

http://www.saltwaterfish.com/site_11_03/pr...oot_parent_id=4