Earthborne Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 Hi All, I was cheated by my buyer who had agreed to buy by whole tank setup + livestock & equipment for $1.2k. Beware of this young skinny chinese guy by the name of Joseph. So I putting out my out Tank + Cabinet + 2xHoods for sale at $300. Contact me @ 98776296 or pm me. For photos, refer to the below link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11023438@N08/page2/ Or my initial setup sale thread below: http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/index.php?...topic=60665&hl= For those interested to read the story: con't below. I had initially put up my entire setup for sale and a really "all must go" price. I had received calls from lots of interested individuals to view the tank and many offered to pay deposit. However for the welfare of my lifestocks and to be fair (afterall this is a not a brand new setup and I don't want pple to commit to buy w/o even viewing the stuff)- I decided that I will only start to entertain viewing at 6pm one particular evening. So sale will be on FCFS basis. However this Joseph happened to be the first potential buyer to called me and complained that the viewing time was unfair to him becos he work ends at 10pm. He requested to come view my tank at 11pm in the night before and pay me $500 deposit. I decided since he was the first caller, I oblige to his request. However he turned up with only $300 as deposit. As it was getting late and I'm anxious to close the deal, I agree to take the deposit. He could not collect my tank immediately because he is going to setup the tank in his new house which is still under renovation until Sept. I agree to let him settle his stuff and collect everything by 1 week of Sept. He also hard bargained to pay me the outstanding amt in $200/session each time he comes to collect some of the stuff. This I also agreed. However on the first session he come to collect my lifestock (Fish + Corals). He only brough with him a tiny foam box & a few tiny plastic bags. As such I have to provide him with boxes & plastic bags and buckets and he had to made 2 rounds the same night to collect all the lifestocks. Not to mention he was more than an hour late when the appt was at 9pm. This session stretch late and I was pissed with such mis-management on his part. So I demanded him to pay up the rest of the balance of $900. He then hard bargained and claim WHAT IF my equipment spoil by the time he collect it in Sept....(an excuse I thought is ridiculous since he had inspected that my whole setup is working fine on seperate occassions already) Since he already collected my corals (not fishes yet) and I had earlier agreed to take $200 installments. To be fair and not to take advantage of him: I gave him the option to back out of the deal and keep all my corals for FREE and I'll give him back his entire deposit. Basically I don't trust this ill-prepared guy to take good care of my beloved fishes. He hard bargained again and I was softened to agree to his offer to pay balance of $900 in half. That night he paid me $450 in cash. The recent session he came to collect my equipment (pumps, skimmers, chiller, MHs...etc), he agreed over the phone before hand to pay me the remaining $450 balance. When he turned up, he said he forgot to draw cash and offer to pay me thru internet cash transfer. I stupidly agreed since I don't want to made him go draw cash as he do not have his own transport. So he took the equipment and and that Friday night he smsed me on that he had already transferred the $450 and mentioned that my MH is malfunctioning and my skimmer is leaky (Totally ridiculous since these are working down to the last minute he collected them!). However I have not received his internet transfer even until today (7 days later). I even smsed him that if he is in any way not satisfied with my equipment he can take still back out of the deal and keep ALL my lifestock for FREE and get ALL his money back. My attempts to contact him and sms him received no response. Now I know I'm dupped. Although I still received $750 from him, the equipment he took well worth more than than amount easily. My TECO chiller alone already cost me $1.5K when new. It wasn't really the money that pissed me but the fact that I had made so much accomodation to be kind and fair and someone he took advantage of it. So a lesson for all foks here: Insist on CASH. Never be soft hearted. So I still got the my tank for sale. It comes with a nice wodden cabinet, 3xft customed sump tank and 2 wooden hood. One is the original low ht. hood for mainly mounting of VHOs. I had another customed made wooden hood for mounting MHs & VHOs. All these I asking for $300. Viewing welcome. Contact me @ 98776296 or pm me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member sky Posted August 4, 2007 SRC Member Share Posted August 4, 2007 Bro, pls don't be upset.. i meet this kind of person before also.. not worth to be mad.. keep your cool and here you always can get many kind souls.. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostice Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 Bro... why not you just report him to the police... the previous pm and sms with him helps in the investigations and i believe this kind of ppl deserve to be punished... anyway if i'm not wrong every form of electronic message can be considered as a contract and what he's doing now is illegal... once a guy trick me on purchasing a faulty game and within 2 days after reporting to the police that guy immediatly sms me to pass me back my money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Alvin Tan Posted August 4, 2007 SRC Member Share Posted August 4, 2007 u can get provide his hp no. to the police too.... anyway....mind telling us the nick so that reefers here can beware of such ppl.. Quote view my 2ft tank thread update here!! http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=36399 Tank Dimension: 24'x15'x19' with black silicon. All round 8mm. Equipments: Return Pump : Hailea HX6540 Skimmer/Chiller : Sicce 2500lph Skimmer : Weipro 2011 Lightings: 4xT5s HO..2 20,000k & 2 Blue Pro(Aquaz) Retrofits Chiller : Resun CL280 Auto Water Top Up Life Stock: More then 35kg of figi rocks Blue Tang, Powder Blue Tang, Bristletooth tang, Clown Tang, Yellow Tang, Purple Tang, Flame Angel, Six Line Wrasse, Sunrise Dottyback. 2 Cleaner Shrimp Green Bubble, Orange Yuma, Hammer, True Octopus, Acans, Frogspawn, Green/Orange Cyannaria, Red Prata, Red Open Brain, Star Polyp, Acan Enchinata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member bluezing Posted August 4, 2007 SRC Member Share Posted August 4, 2007 pls pm me his nick..thks.... Quote www.sengkang.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orsony Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 Hi All, I was cheated by my buyer who had agreed to buy by whole tank setup + livestock & equipment for $1.2k. Beware of this young skinny chinese guy by the name of Joseph. So I putting out my out Tank + Cabinet + 2xHoods for sale at $300. Contact me @ 98776296 or pm me. For photos, refer to the below link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11023438@N08/page2/ Or my initial setup sale thread below: http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/index.php?...topic=60665&hl= For those interested to read the story: con't below. I had initially put up my entire setup for sale and a really "all must go" price. I had received calls from lots of interested individuals to view the tank and many offered to pay deposit. However for the welfare of my lifestocks and to be fair (afterall this is a not a brand new setup and I don't want pple to commit to buy w/o even viewing the stuff)- I decided that I will only start to entertain viewing at 6pm one particular evening. So sale will be on FCFS basis. However this Joseph happened to be the first potential buyer to called me and complained that the viewing time was unfair to him becos he work ends at 10pm. He requested to come view my tank at 11pm in the night before and pay me $500 deposit. I decided since he was the first caller, I oblige to his request. However he turned up with only $300 as deposit. As it was getting late and I'm anxious to close the deal, I agree to take the deposit. He could not collect my tank immediately because he is going to setup the tank in his new house which is still under renovation until Sept. I agree to let him settle his stuff and collect everything by 1 week of Sept. He also hard bargained to pay me the outstanding amt in $200/session each time he comes to collect some of the stuff. This I also agreed. However on the first session he come to collect my lifestock (Fish + Corals). He only brough with him a tiny foam box & a few tiny plastic bags. As such I have to provide him with boxes & plastic bags and buckets and he had to made 2 rounds the same night to collect all the lifestocks. Not to mention he was more than an hour late when the appt was at 9pm. This session stretch late and I was pissed with such mis-management on his part. So I demanded him to pay up the rest of the balance of $900. He then hard bargained and claim WHAT IF my equipment spoil by the time he collect it in Sept....(an excuse I thought is ridiculous since he had inspected that my whole setup is working fine on seperate occassions already) Since he already collected my corals (not fishes yet) and I had earlier agreed to take $200 installments. To be fair and not to take advantage of him: I gave him the option to back out of the deal and keep all my corals for FREE and I'll give him back his entire deposit. Basically I don't trust this ill-prepared guy to take good care of my beloved fishes. He hard bargained again and I was softened to agree to his offer to pay balance of $900 in half. That night he paid me $450 in cash. The recent session he came to collect my equipment (pumps, skimmers, chiller, MHs...etc), he agreed over the phone before hand to pay me the remaining $450 balance. When he turned up, he said he forgot to draw cash and offer to pay me thru internet cash transfer. I stupidly agreed since I don't want to made him go draw cash as he do not have his own transport. So he took the equipment and and that Friday night he smsed me on that he had already transferred the $450 and mentioned that my MH is malfunctioning and my skimmer is leaky (Totally ridiculous since these are working down to the last minute he collected them!). However I have not received his internet transfer even until today (7 days later). I even smsed him that if he is in any way not satisfied with my equipment he can take still back out of the deal and keep ALL my lifestock for FREE and get ALL his money back. My attempts to contact him and sms him received no response. Now I know I'm dupped. Although I still received $750 from him, the equipment he took well worth more than than amount easily. My TECO chiller alone already cost me $1.5K when new. It wasn't really the money that pissed me but the fact that I had made so much accomodation to be kind and fair and someone he took advantage of it. So a lesson for all foks here: Insist on CASH. Never be soft hearted. So I still got the my tank for sale. It comes with a nice wodden cabinet, 3xft customed sump tank and 2 wooden hood. One is the original low ht. hood for mainly mounting of VHOs. I had another customed made wooden hood for mounting MHs & VHOs. All these I asking for $300. Viewing welcome. Contact me @ 98776296 or pm me. Thanks for the warning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member jyoon Posted August 4, 2007 SRC Member Share Posted August 4, 2007 Please PM me his nick so we are aware. I agree to report him to police too. Such reefer shoot be "gun" down forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member LaW Posted August 4, 2007 SRC Member Share Posted August 4, 2007 sorry to hear that earthborne. it's just so ugly to see these happening. no point keeping his nick to urself too. hope u manage to clear ur tank soon. Quote If a man could beat his own fantasy. Then to only breed in captivity. Then its pointless. Genesis 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that has life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. And God created great whales, and every living creature that moves, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. And the evening and the morning were the fifth day. || Tank: 78" x 30" x 30" || Sump: 48" x 22" x 20" || Lights: PowerModule 10 X 80W|| Returns: 2 x HF32 || || Skimmer: BubbleKing Supermarin 300 || Wavemaker: 3 x 6100 & 1 x 6200, 2 x Wavebox 6212, WavySea || || FR: 2 x FR150 || NR: Sulphur Denitrator || CR: RM Custom Made 8" || KR: Deltec KM500 || TopUp: Tunze Osmolator 3155 || || UV: Coralife 12X 36W || Ozonizer: Sanders C200|| Controller: GHL Profilux Plus II Ex || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member tayhonglee Posted August 4, 2007 SRC Member Share Posted August 4, 2007 NAME!!!! THE!!!!!! BUNGHOLE!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stash Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 no picture bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bio528 Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 yea! can PM me hic nick too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member creative reefer Posted August 4, 2007 SRC Member Share Posted August 4, 2007 Put his nick up...so that everybody knows...he may change his nick..but we still have to be aware...plus put his hp number up as well... I am sorry to hear as to what has happened to you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnySin Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 I agree with the rest of Bros, cool down. Things already happen really can't help much. But thanks for your advise. If I will you, I think I will be same like you, ANGRY!!! Outside they do have this type of buyer but some of them are very nice too. I mean they don't tell you in front whether he is cheater or honest. That's when we sell things to them. We really have to be careful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyBoy Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 Reveal his nick as he would put the stuffs he got from you and sell it at higher price. Quote Member of : UEN: T08SS0098FMASS in Facebook Reefing in LED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Tang Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 Maybe next time it will be a good idea to take photos of prospective buyers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Rogerttt Posted August 5, 2007 SRC Member Share Posted August 5, 2007 His nick for everone to alert men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skthk Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 Bro, cannot view your pictures one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member jasment Posted August 5, 2007 SRC Member Share Posted August 5, 2007 some song? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member jemarcus Posted August 6, 2007 SRC Member Share Posted August 6, 2007 Lol. AT start the picture profile then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruzt Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 Like many others have said, it would be good if you can post his nick...not that it'll do much good, but at least he cannot use it to do the same in future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Brownie Posted August 6, 2007 SRC Member Share Posted August 6, 2007 Hi bro.... empathise with your situation. Take it as a charity to that poor soul....n be at peace with yourself. Upz for yr tank sales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthborne Posted August 7, 2007 Author Share Posted August 7, 2007 I had met contact with buyer and settled our case offline. I got back my equipment and will be selling them again when I verified they are working well. Dear forumers, hope the flames rest from here onwards.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthborne Posted August 7, 2007 Author Share Posted August 7, 2007 I had met contact with buyer and settled our case offline. I got back my equipment and will be selling them again when I verified they are working well. Dear forumers, hope the flames rest from here onwards.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Alvin Tan Posted August 7, 2007 SRC Member Share Posted August 7, 2007 I had met contact with buyer and settled our case offline. I got back my equipment and will be selling them again when I verified they are working well. Dear forumers, hope the flames rest from here onwards.... tts quite lucky... Quote view my 2ft tank thread update here!! http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=36399 Tank Dimension: 24'x15'x19' with black silicon. All round 8mm. Equipments: Return Pump : Hailea HX6540 Skimmer/Chiller : Sicce 2500lph Skimmer : Weipro 2011 Lightings: 4xT5s HO..2 20,000k & 2 Blue Pro(Aquaz) Retrofits Chiller : Resun CL280 Auto Water Top Up Life Stock: More then 35kg of figi rocks Blue Tang, Powder Blue Tang, Bristletooth tang, Clown Tang, Yellow Tang, Purple Tang, Flame Angel, Six Line Wrasse, Sunrise Dottyback. 2 Cleaner Shrimp Green Bubble, Orange Yuma, Hammer, True Octopus, Acans, Frogspawn, Green/Orange Cyannaria, Red Prata, Red Open Brain, Star Polyp, Acan Enchinata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member bestcom Posted August 7, 2007 SRC Member Share Posted August 7, 2007 please provide photo of the tank. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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