giantbicycle Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 er , my hammer grow from 11 head to 16 heads.. i seriously dun know that , only know that it raise alkalinity The growing of heads is promoted by an Increase in CA and other factors..But colouration is gained by Iodine..so any diverse effect on the colours of your corals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Patrick Posted May 13, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted May 13, 2006 I have been reading about hammers and octopus growing new heads in tanks and wonder how it can happen and how long it takes? I am thinking when we buy the hammer all heads are full with the tentacles right? Do u mean another branch grows out from the main trunk complete with tentacles? That can takes years right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammy Posted May 13, 2006 Author Share Posted May 13, 2006 The growing of heads is promoted by an Increase in CA and other factors..But colouration is gained by Iodine..so any diverse effect on the colours of your corals? my coral never has a bleeching problem and colouration of my coral is like constant from the first day i bought it even though i face it everyday . actually the iodine is given to mi by bro thc FOC . heh heh Quote 2x1.5x1.5 tank Lighting: AI hydra 52HD Skimmer: Deltec SC 1455 Reactor: Minimax; rowaphos Skimz  ; NP biopellets Wave Maker: MP 40 WQD Return pump: Eheim 1262 Chiller: Arctica 1/10 hp  A righteous man cares for the needs of his animal, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel -- Proverbs 12:10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammy Posted May 13, 2006 Author Share Posted May 13, 2006 I have been reading about hammers and octopus growing new heads in tanks and wonder how it can happen and how long it takes? I am thinking when we buy the hammer all heads are full with the tentacles right? Do u mean another branch grows out from the main trunk complete with tentacles? That can takes years right? this is the interesting part of LPS . i have this piece of hammer for around 6 months and they have grow from 11 to 16 heads. mine is a branching hammer type coral. one of the head will sub divide into 2 smaller head and the 2 smaller head will grow from there . heard that once your ca, alkalinity , phosphate level is in check, naturally they will thrieve. as for mi in my case , it took around 6 months. Quote 2x1.5x1.5 tank Lighting: AI hydra 52HD Skimmer: Deltec SC 1455 Reactor: Minimax; rowaphos Skimz  ; NP biopellets Wave Maker: MP 40 WQD Return pump: Eheim 1262 Chiller: Arctica 1/10 hp  A righteous man cares for the needs of his animal, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel -- Proverbs 12:10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jervismun Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Wah I can't wait for my Hammer to start splitting... bro Hammy, you must come see the Hammer we bought together... record size today... right now, after 3 hrs of MH, it's bigger than my head... almost the size of a basketball!!! A very healthy and thriving specimen indeed Quote Tank 60x40x40 Optiwhite Glass Tank Sump Elos 500 w/ Tunze Overflow Protein Skimmer Skimz Kone SK1 Return Pump Hydor Seltz L30 Wavemaker Hydor K1 Illumination 150W + 2 T5 Chiller Arctica 1/5hp w/ Aquabee 1000 Water Top-up Tunze Osmolator Dosing Pumps Grotech 3-Channels Calcium Reactor Deltec PF 501 Computer Aquatronica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammy Posted May 13, 2006 Author Share Posted May 13, 2006 Wah I can't wait for my Hammer to start splitting... bro Hammy, you must come see the Hammer we bought together... record size today... right now, after 3 hrs of MH, it's bigger than my head... almost the size of a basketball!!! A very healthy and thriving specimen indeed haha..told u already . the LPS can burst into a very huge balloon despite the skeleton size. even the gonio we bought together then will be super huge with time. Quote 2x1.5x1.5 tank Lighting: AI hydra 52HD Skimmer: Deltec SC 1455 Reactor: Minimax; rowaphos Skimz  ; NP biopellets Wave Maker: MP 40 WQD Return pump: Eheim 1262 Chiller: Arctica 1/10 hp  A righteous man cares for the needs of his animal, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel -- Proverbs 12:10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jervismun Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 I'm very confused... bro KennethK told me that is an Alveopora... Quote Tank 60x40x40 Optiwhite Glass Tank Sump Elos 500 w/ Tunze Overflow Protein Skimmer Skimz Kone SK1 Return Pump Hydor Seltz L30 Wavemaker Hydor K1 Illumination 150W + 2 T5 Chiller Arctica 1/5hp w/ Aquabee 1000 Water Top-up Tunze Osmolator Dosing Pumps Grotech 3-Channels Calcium Reactor Deltec PF 501 Computer Aquatronica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammy Posted May 13, 2006 Author Share Posted May 13, 2006 I'm very confused... bro KennethK told me that is an Alveopora... dun worry . ask iantoh. he is expert in this kind of coral Quote 2x1.5x1.5 tank Lighting: AI hydra 52HD Skimmer: Deltec SC 1455 Reactor: Minimax; rowaphos Skimz  ; NP biopellets Wave Maker: MP 40 WQD Return pump: Eheim 1262 Chiller: Arctica 1/10 hp  A righteous man cares for the needs of his animal, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel -- Proverbs 12:10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member cyder_15 Posted May 13, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted May 13, 2006 The growing of heads is promoted by an Increase in CA and other factors..But colouration is gained by Iodine..so any diverse effect on the colours of your corals? yeah its supposed to help colouration.. my hammers have splited into more heads too so i guess its kinda normal. Anyway, what does strontium do then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jervismun Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Anyway, what does strontium do then? According to Kent Marine, Strontium (plus Molybdenum) will enhance proper growth, corals will open more and stay attached to their skeletons better According to Aqua Marine, Strontium is essential for the production and maintenance of the skeleton of hard corals, the shell of reef mussels (like clams) and calcareous algae Quote Tank 60x40x40 Optiwhite Glass Tank Sump Elos 500 w/ Tunze Overflow Protein Skimmer Skimz Kone SK1 Return Pump Hydor Seltz L30 Wavemaker Hydor K1 Illumination 150W + 2 T5 Chiller Arctica 1/5hp w/ Aquabee 1000 Water Top-up Tunze Osmolator Dosing Pumps Grotech 3-Channels Calcium Reactor Deltec PF 501 Computer Aquatronica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member cyder_15 Posted May 13, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted May 13, 2006 According to Kent Marine, Strontium (plus Molybdenum) will enhance proper growth, corals will open more and stay attached to their skeletons better According to Aqua Marine, Strontium is essential for the production and maintenance of the skeleton of hard corals, the shell of reef mussels (like clams) and calcareous algae Alrighty, thanks man. That probably explains why my corals are doing quite well together with the other parameters in check of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammy Posted May 14, 2006 Author Share Posted May 14, 2006 latest ph reading 7.7 alkalinity 6dkh. now trying to use tropic marine triple buffer to salvage the condition. everything in the tank looks okie . guess i have been too complacent . both test kit from tropic marine Quote 2x1.5x1.5 tank Lighting: AI hydra 52HD Skimmer: Deltec SC 1455 Reactor: Minimax; rowaphos Skimz  ; NP biopellets Wave Maker: MP 40 WQD Return pump: Eheim 1262 Chiller: Arctica 1/10 hp  A righteous man cares for the needs of his animal, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel -- Proverbs 12:10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jervismun Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 latest ph reading 7.7alkalinity 6dkh. now trying to use tropic marine triple buffer to salvage the condition. everything in the tank looks okie . guess i have been too complacent . both test kit from tropic marine Yeah bro... u hv been pretty busy lately... not much update from you... do you get any algae on your glass at all? I got a feeling... since you flow so perfect... u will get very little algae Quote Tank 60x40x40 Optiwhite Glass Tank Sump Elos 500 w/ Tunze Overflow Protein Skimmer Skimz Kone SK1 Return Pump Hydor Seltz L30 Wavemaker Hydor K1 Illumination 150W + 2 T5 Chiller Arctica 1/5hp w/ Aquabee 1000 Water Top-up Tunze Osmolator Dosing Pumps Grotech 3-Channels Calcium Reactor Deltec PF 501 Computer Aquatronica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member KennethK Posted May 14, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted May 14, 2006 He busy pak tor la. Kh too low brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jervismun Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 He busy pak tor la. Kh too low brother. I think he is very busy at work... which is a good thing... bro tell me more about ur TM Triple Buffer... sounds very "powderful" leh... not 2 but 3!!! Quote Tank 60x40x40 Optiwhite Glass Tank Sump Elos 500 w/ Tunze Overflow Protein Skimmer Skimz Kone SK1 Return Pump Hydor Seltz L30 Wavemaker Hydor K1 Illumination 150W + 2 T5 Chiller Arctica 1/5hp w/ Aquabee 1000 Water Top-up Tunze Osmolator Dosing Pumps Grotech 3-Channels Calcium Reactor Deltec PF 501 Computer Aquatronica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammy Posted May 14, 2006 Author Share Posted May 14, 2006 Yeah bro... u hv been pretty busy lately... not much update from you... do you get any algae on your glass at all? I got a feeling... since you flow so perfect... u will get very little algae didnt know that attachment is more busy than studying life . yup .. now must spend more time with galfriend too. if i tell u that i have no diatom on my tank wall , i will be lying to u . there is still some but very very minimum the triple buffer control trace element , kH, pH. but one thing i realise about TM additive is that they have low solubility . Quote 2x1.5x1.5 tank Lighting: AI hydra 52HD Skimmer: Deltec SC 1455 Reactor: Minimax; rowaphos Skimz  ; NP biopellets Wave Maker: MP 40 WQD Return pump: Eheim 1262 Chiller: Arctica 1/10 hp  A righteous man cares for the needs of his animal, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel -- Proverbs 12:10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jervismun Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 Emm... seems like a magic potion for me... so when you dose, it will add trace elements to ur tank, raise ur KH and pH to optimum level at the same time? Wow! Quote Tank 60x40x40 Optiwhite Glass Tank Sump Elos 500 w/ Tunze Overflow Protein Skimmer Skimz Kone SK1 Return Pump Hydor Seltz L30 Wavemaker Hydor K1 Illumination 150W + 2 T5 Chiller Arctica 1/5hp w/ Aquabee 1000 Water Top-up Tunze Osmolator Dosing Pumps Grotech 3-Channels Calcium Reactor Deltec PF 501 Computer Aquatronica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammy Posted May 14, 2006 Author Share Posted May 14, 2006 Emm... seems like a magic potion for me... so when you dose, it will add trace elements to ur tank, raise ur KH and pH to optimum level at the same time? Wow! by right lah ... by left , now my kH is still at 6 lor . haiz .... once my pH is at 8.2 , i will stop using TM triple buffer and continue reef builder . trace elements , no way to measure lah . the only concern i have right now is whether my calcium level will depreciate to a very low value with adding of carbonate and bicarbonate salt . Quote 2x1.5x1.5 tank Lighting: AI hydra 52HD Skimmer: Deltec SC 1455 Reactor: Minimax; rowaphos Skimz  ; NP biopellets Wave Maker: MP 40 WQD Return pump: Eheim 1262 Chiller: Arctica 1/10 hp  A righteous man cares for the needs of his animal, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel -- Proverbs 12:10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jervismun Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 This is the thing I am still very confused on... and there are so many brands out there... so many of the same products under different trade names... so must not dose blindly... I did that and my calcium level is taking forever to reach the 450 mark. Em... let me do some tests tonight also, later Quote Tank 60x40x40 Optiwhite Glass Tank Sump Elos 500 w/ Tunze Overflow Protein Skimmer Skimz Kone SK1 Return Pump Hydor Seltz L30 Wavemaker Hydor K1 Illumination 150W + 2 T5 Chiller Arctica 1/5hp w/ Aquabee 1000 Water Top-up Tunze Osmolator Dosing Pumps Grotech 3-Channels Calcium Reactor Deltec PF 501 Computer Aquatronica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammy Posted May 14, 2006 Author Share Posted May 14, 2006 latest reading : after 45min : ph:8.2 kh:8 tired le . tomorrow will buff it to at least 10 .for the next few day , will test pH and kH diligently to ensure a constant buffering . jervis , u use hydrocarbonate as substrate right ? can u pm mi the price of the smallest package ? Quote 2x1.5x1.5 tank Lighting: AI hydra 52HD Skimmer: Deltec SC 1455 Reactor: Minimax; rowaphos Skimz  ; NP biopellets Wave Maker: MP 40 WQD Return pump: Eheim 1262 Chiller: Arctica 1/10 hp  A righteous man cares for the needs of his animal, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel -- Proverbs 12:10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member loster Posted May 14, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted May 14, 2006 This is the thing I am still very confused on... and there are so many brands out there... so many of the same products under different trade names... so must not dose blindly... I did that and my calcium level is taking forever to reach the 450 mark. Em... let me do some tests tonight also, later me use home-made additives for ca, mg and kh more concentrated and effective. don't have to spend so much on the brand product and they affect your ph and sg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member loster Posted May 14, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted May 14, 2006 latest reading : after 45min : ph:8.2 kh:8 tired le . tomorrow will buff it to at least 10 .for the next few day , will test pH and kH diligently to ensure a constant buffering . jervis , u use hydrocarbonate as substrate right ? can u pm mi the price of the smallest package ? jack, you got to practice go slow in raising up your kh... 2 dkh within a day is too fast and your system will be stressed try to go at least 0.5-1 dkh witnin 24 hrs. in fact both are link. once your kh up, your ph will follow. i run my system with CR, my ph sometime range between 7.9-8.3 with kh 7.5-8 have you found out why your kh went low? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jervismun Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 My Kh been steadily dropping also (together with Ca and Mg) Readings 5 days ago: KH - 9 pH - 8 Ca - 490 Mg - 1110 Readings today: KH - 7.4 pH - 8 Ca - 470 Mg - 1050 I have just added Salifert KH + PH Buffer and will do another set of readings later. I will have to source for a reliable product to bring up Magnesium. I know all these are interlinked... perhaps they are all affected by my low Mg. Quote Tank 60x40x40 Optiwhite Glass Tank Sump Elos 500 w/ Tunze Overflow Protein Skimmer Skimz Kone SK1 Return Pump Hydor Seltz L30 Wavemaker Hydor K1 Illumination 150W + 2 T5 Chiller Arctica 1/5hp w/ Aquabee 1000 Water Top-up Tunze Osmolator Dosing Pumps Grotech 3-Channels Calcium Reactor Deltec PF 501 Computer Aquatronica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member loster Posted May 14, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted May 14, 2006 water change is the cheaper and most effective way to bring up your mg (get those saltmix with high mg). mg additive is not cheap at all. and most mg product that sold in the market are not concentrated. so, you got to use up a few bottles to bring back your mg level. just a reminder... long term of dosing kalk water will bring down your mg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jervismun Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 water change is the cheaper and most effective way to bring up your mg (get those saltmix with high mg). mg additive is not cheap at all. and most mg product that sold in the market are not concentrated. so, you got to use up a few bottles to bring back your mg level. just a reminder... long term of dosing kalk water will bring down your mg Ok I will remember that... do more water change and avoid relying too much on Mg additives... yeah I'm using Kalk water Will a good Calcium Reactor help stabilize Mg? Prob not. Quote Tank 60x40x40 Optiwhite Glass Tank Sump Elos 500 w/ Tunze Overflow Protein Skimmer Skimz Kone SK1 Return Pump Hydor Seltz L30 Wavemaker Hydor K1 Illumination 150W + 2 T5 Chiller Arctica 1/5hp w/ Aquabee 1000 Water Top-up Tunze Osmolator Dosing Pumps Grotech 3-Channels Calcium Reactor Deltec PF 501 Computer Aquatronica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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