lost cost, high success : )

[asg]

anyone wanna share ways of cutting cost of maintaining a successful reef tank?

[madmac]

yes... remove your sandbed...

[Travy]

Really ah?

Sand bed that bad...?

[Alvin Tan]

hmmz...maybe u shld post in the general reefkeeping IMO....seems that ur sandbed is the main cause for nitrate..

[Metabolic_7]

but i thought sandbed have beneficial bacteria that break down nitrogen-based waste that is produced by marine life

[ervine]

but i thought sandbed have beneficial bacteria that break down nitrogen-based waste that is produced by marine life

That was the old theory, new theory is that you don't need a sand bed as it in fact traps deitrus...

[Metabolic_7]

so u tell me that sand bed is like a Decorations item is it

[c0ol]

so u tell me that sand bed is like a Decorations item is it

sort of bro...now some reefers go for BB(bare-bottom)or just have a thin layer of sand

[asg]

few ways to save cost:

* consolidated all purchases so as to ask for higher discount

* ask around for prices as there can be a large varies in selling price

* dont buy coral because you like them, buy because you can keep them sucessfully (ditto for fishes)

money not easy to earn...

[nakazoru]

sort of bro...now some reefers go for BB(bare-bottom)or just have a thin layer of sand

Is this a contest of the DSB and BB issue again?

[jc85]

Do note that bro andtsg is running a low tech tank. Suggesting BB for him will result in him investing in alot of high tech equipment, imho.

DSB will still work if u ask me.

Cheers

JC

[nakazoru]

I'm a believer of DSB. Believer of balance in life. Believer of mother nature. BUT I'M GETTING A SKIMMER.

Reason is that although DSB provide neutrient essential to my reef, the DOA is so high that I can almost notice the water density being so rich with my eyes. The air bubble does not burst on the surface and I know water needs to be change even without LS dying.

I tried to mimic mother nature to the fullest extent but notice the limitation.

I'm going to use my skimmer on a time schedule initially to see if this will work for a reef that grows. I have no intent to over-skim my reef and eliminates the benefit of DSB.

Anyway DSB needs fine sand to work.

[Oceandeep]

DIY Skimmer

DIY skimmer

[asg]

Do note that bro andtsg is running a low tech tank. Suggesting BB for him will result in him investing in alot of high tech equipment, imho.

DSB will still work if u ask me.

Cheers

JC

Hi! i dont quite understand why BB will require other equipments (other than the standard equipment, skimmer, filter, etc) to make it work??

can you please enlighten me?

i am not investing in any other equipment, but no harm knowing more

[weileong]

He meant that with BB you need powerful skimmer and higher flow to lift detritus into your sump so your skimmer can remove them.

[madmac]

Hi! i dont quite understand why BB will require other equipments (other than the standard equipment, skimmer, filter, etc) to make it work??

Thats because it doesn't. Done correctly, its a lot lesser equipment, a lot lesser resources, a lot lesser heat, and a lot lesser $$.

I have nothing against sandbed substrates users, weather is aesthetically pleasing to you or otherwise.

I think Bomber said it well when ask.

If you like DSB, know what it does,

if you like shallow SB, know what it does,

if you like BB, know what it does. : )

... and nakazoru, I seriously hope it didn't take you too long to realize, you can never mimic the ocean...oh and make that a ... BUT I'M GETTING A SMIMMER.. if u don't get the pun, PM me. : )

[godzillaliu88]

if not sand bed. wouldnt the glass crack from all the pressure of the stacked up LRs?

[asg]

i dont think it will crack, as the LRs will rest on the bottom of the tank and the cabinet is acting "against" the weight, thus the weight will be "transfer" to the leg of the cabinet. for every action, there is a reaction...

sigh... reefers are sometimes a lonely lot... none of my friends/ colleagues keep reef... lonely river flows ~~~ to the sea, to the sea~~~

[damienkee]

r u asking for a sps tank?

im now running fishless & skimmless. but soon will run my skimmer again. currently wat i realise after running fishless & skimless after my tank crash.

-PE more

-growth rate more

-color turning more brown than b4 lol