Remote DSB

[gunzo]

read a very very interesting read on reef central .. thanks to some bros here for the reference .. decide to try it out ..

today day zero after setting up

salinity 1.023

NO2 0

NO3 50 (tetra test)

PO4 ??

lets see the results 1 week later .. probably nothing

Total cost : $30

bucket - free coral life bucket

connectors and tubes and glue - $15.0

sand - grade 0 a 1 - $15 (regret .. should have gone changi collect )

pump - previously used sicce (since no one wants to buy it )

[gunzo]

1 week

expected ..

50ppm probably upward trend

BTW feed schedule is everyday with 1 spoonful of Henry's mix .. that should push up the sheitz level big time .. suns, mushies, yumas, jewels still ok ..

[CKS]

whats the size of your maintank?

how deep is ur DSB?

[zorden]

ok..its the anthony method...

maybe u can monitor the no3 lv then post here again..

[gunzo]

Not expecting instant miracles.. since there's no seeding .. I guess I need probably another 2-3 weeks for the effects to show ..

CKS .. my DSB is in a pail .. probably 20 over inches deep

something similar to a FR .. but pailsized ..

[gunzo]

update

test until hand pain

3rd week.. 20ppm with tropical marine kit

40ppm with sera test kit

100 ppm with tetra

(ran out of it.. tats why now tropical marine )

seems to be working liao..

[taylapong]

what's the link to this method? and hor, how come all the test kits give diff reading?? hehe...

[gunzo]

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthre...threadid=595109

some report reductions within a week..(look at date of post)

some >1 month..

dunno why.. maybe my tetra test old liao

sera n tropic quite consistent..

tetra color between 25 n 50 abit close .. 50 n 100 lagi close.. maybe i cockeye

[gunzo]

ok 1 month .. (close to)

nitrate 20ppm ... no change for 1 week already ..

just wondering if it'll drop lower from now onwards ..

Grr ... PO4 going up though gotta buy more Rowaphos

[May&Bruce]

NO3 test kits are very unreliable - salifert seems the best (most accurate) brand.

IMO it could take 6-9 months or more for the nitrate-reducing effect of a DSB to take effect. But keep at it - many peopl are anit DSB, but remember the real ocean has a HUGE DSB

[gunzo]

I'm using a remote system .. where the sandbed is like 14" deep

seems like the effects has kicked started .. 2 weeks no change of water .. and NO3 at 20ppm (tropical marine test kit)

Feeding everyday ..

I dump in some glucose .. the water no longer turn milky

downside is PO4 super high

now running a second bag of Rowa .. hmm .. maybe my 1st bag exhausted liao ..

[Travy]

Glucose? The powder?

[gunzo]

sugar water

btw when collect the cleaner?? poor guy in the sump so lonely

[jc85]

Any updates? Seriously, I dun tink it will mature so soon.

Try measuring using a salifert testkit and stick to it. Switching testkits throughout the test period is not accurate.

Cheers

JC

[gunzo]

yep already matured and done liao..

constant 20ppm tropic marine..

the spike happened at week 2 and it dropped from there.. lost 3 anthias and 1 brown tang

I feed everyday and based on previous experience, I have to change water every 1 to 1.5 weeks otherwise no3 goes above 50ppm and my gonio will not extend..

now already 1 month never change water liao

[jc85]

Interesting finding. Do monitor for the next 2 -3 months if possible. Probably your NO3 will drop further.

Cheers

JC

[djviper]

yeah interested to know the results

thinking of making buckets of sandbed for my tank if the remote dsb works.

[gunzo]

7th week.. tropical marine test kit..

quite constant at 20ppm

not increasing..

note this is daily feeding schedule.. 20+fishes ..2 poo machines

btw no change of water for 7 weeks

waiting for it to drop to lower though.. maybe greedy

just be careful of nitrate spike during the 3rd week or so.. no bacteria yet/not enough to remove the nitrate.. and this sudden spike can cause havoc on your corals and ls

[CKS]

20 fishy!!!?!?

how big is your tank btw?

i think 20ppm is pretty low already for that load!

[gunzo]

my tank is 3x1.5x2

abit crowded yes but quite nice..

anyway 1 big fish.. the rest small fishes..

[EDG]

Hi, any updates to your dsb? still working well??

[gunzo]

It works VERY well..

I changed to internal sump DSB since then .. doesn't work as well as the sandbed in a pail

Flood feed the fishes everyday (due some shy fishes) WITH some algae in the sump and yet the nitrate hovers around 50ppm ..

I guess the remote was still best so far ..

[cdckjn]

Can post some pictures of this setup so that we can learn from you? Thanks.

[jervismun]

It works VERY well..

I changed to internal sump DSB since then .. doesn't work as well as the sandbed in a pail

Flood feed the fishes everyday (due some shy fishes) WITH some algae in the sump and yet the nitrate hovers around 50ppm ..

I guess the remote was still best so far ..

Bro Gunzo as part of my Phase II plan... I might consider a remote DSB... can meet up with you to learn from you when the time is right?

[gunzo]

Anytime

Concept is taken from Reefcentral .. Anthony Calfo I think ..

I used a Coral Life salt container and filled it up to 2/3rds full with sand ..

I used a 1500LPH pump to circulate the water from the sump to the tank .. thats it !!

Jervis, Yes .. I like to see your office tank too !!