SRC Member angmoh Posted December 27, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted December 27, 2005 recently i'm kinda in love with yuams ... bought a few yumas from LFS, got orange, green, pink etc... wondering what's the ideal conditions for yuma ?? my current lighting is 4 x t5ho , a 2.5 ft tank. i know alot of sifus here grow very nice yumas ... so please share your experience ! thanks Quote >> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Mr CRABS Posted December 27, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted December 27, 2005 Just an opinion,it would have been safer if you have read before buying them,corals not easy to handle. Quote 3.5 X 2.5 X 2.5 Reef Coming up ) 136+39(UK) 163+47(US) 618+178L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member jem Posted December 27, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted December 27, 2005 firstly your water parameters have to be good for any livestock to thrive in your aquarium.. yumas dont demand intense light..and they will melt if placed under intese lightings.. place it in a moderate flow area.. and yes..pink yumas are relatively harder to keep..compared to the other colours of other yumas =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member nakazoru Posted December 27, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted December 27, 2005 Good; Another join the yuma craze... They are the hardest to keep among shrooms, or should I call them shroom at all? They are quite additive you know. Just one point to note, is that since they are quite costly, buy them slow, massive addition dun really do any good if any parameters swing. Especially most coral has their unique chemical discharge when added to a new environment. Good Luck. Quote Equipment: 30G Corner Tank with 10G Sump, 2 x 24W artinic T5, 1 x 24W 10K, 1x 24W 20K, 3" Grade 0 sand & Live rocks, Activated Carbon, Bio-home, 2 x Seio M620, Hailea 1/2HP Chiller, Redsea Pro Skimmer Live Stock: Turbo Snail x 1, Green Mandarin Dragonet X 2, Blue Tang X 2, True percular x 2, 1 x Algae Bleenie, Clarke clown x 2 Reef: 1 x 2" Blue maxima, Red/Brown/Purple Mushroom (Discosoma), Pink Ricordea yuma, A little colony Brown/Green common Zoanthus, Red/Pink/Green US Zoanthus, Eagle-eye Zoathus, 14 Branch Goniopora Pandoraensis, 1 Starburst Polyps, 3 + 2 Branch Frogspawn, 4 Blasto, palythoa, Cheato RIPs (Since June 2005): 1. Sabae clown (KO by Clarke clown) 2. 1 branch melted frogspawn 4 branch 3. Golden maxima (Ripe the base off rock by me) 4. Algae Bleenie x 2 (Starvation) 5. Blue Maxima x 1, 2 x Maxima, 1 x frogspawn, rics (Overtemp...) Old 30G Corner Tank. Restarted 30G Corner Tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member angmoh Posted December 28, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted December 28, 2005 ok gotcha. anyway i'v been keeping LPS and other softies for the past year. just recently get into yumas. water para shouldnt be any major problem. 4 x t5ho considered intense light ? my tank depth is 1.5ft. where is the ideal place for my yumas ? top ? bottom ? middle ? medium flow ? yes they are in the middle flow region Quote >> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member zephyros Posted December 28, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted December 28, 2005 juz a feel ... yuma is 1 hell of a mystery. u cant say that 1 yuma strive in ur tank and the next will do well as well .. all heng suah wan ... as for water para ... i'm not too sure that "good" para is good for yuma. yuma also strive in nutrient rich water ... many bros report that PINK yuma needs nurtient rich water ... so up to u to experiment and believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member angmoh Posted December 28, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted December 28, 2005 yes i'm aware that it's all about luck. this even applies for other corals... some corals will just melt for nothing, but some can thrive very well under the same condition. now i'm monitoring my yumas closely.. to see their conditions.. if they are not doin well, then will move to another place . so far most of the yumas are opening pretty well, except for the bicolor yuma (pink + green) .i noticed the bubble start shrinking ... perhaps light too strong ? or ? Quote >> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member nakazoru Posted December 28, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted December 28, 2005 ok gotcha. anyway i'v been keeping LPS and other softies for the past year. just recently get into yumas. water para shouldnt be any major problem. 4 x t5ho considered intense light ? my tank depth is 1.5ft. where is the ideal place for my yumas ? top ? bottom ? middle ? medium flow ? yes they are in the middle flow region I place them at the bottom. You lights is juz nice. Dun worry. Quote Equipment: 30G Corner Tank with 10G Sump, 2 x 24W artinic T5, 1 x 24W 10K, 1x 24W 20K, 3" Grade 0 sand & Live rocks, Activated Carbon, Bio-home, 2 x Seio M620, Hailea 1/2HP Chiller, Redsea Pro Skimmer Live Stock: Turbo Snail x 1, Green Mandarin Dragonet X 2, Blue Tang X 2, True percular x 2, 1 x Algae Bleenie, Clarke clown x 2 Reef: 1 x 2" Blue maxima, Red/Brown/Purple Mushroom (Discosoma), Pink Ricordea yuma, A little colony Brown/Green common Zoanthus, Red/Pink/Green US Zoanthus, Eagle-eye Zoathus, 14 Branch Goniopora Pandoraensis, 1 Starburst Polyps, 3 + 2 Branch Frogspawn, 4 Blasto, palythoa, Cheato RIPs (Since June 2005): 1. Sabae clown (KO by Clarke clown) 2. 1 branch melted frogspawn 4 branch 3. Golden maxima (Ripe the base off rock by me) 4. Algae Bleenie x 2 (Starvation) 5. Blue Maxima x 1, 2 x Maxima, 1 x frogspawn, rics (Overtemp...) Old 30G Corner Tank. Restarted 30G Corner Tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member zephyros Posted December 28, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted December 28, 2005 did u see henry's (ML) yuma, they are under the 150W MH (i think ) so toking abt lighting needs ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member YzF Posted December 28, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted December 28, 2005 Hi AngMoki..a Welcome to the YUMA freako family! I have been trying to collect them after I saw one orange yuma when i just started the hobby. Some experience to share: Every Yuma is different. As in they need very different parameter to thrive. Anyway just to share a pic of my collection so far..Rest of it in my tank thread. Quote YzF's Tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member angmoh Posted December 28, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted December 28, 2005 YzF yes you are my idol i'm trying to grow a full tank of yumas like urs looks like you place ur yumas at the bottom of the tank .. what's ur light configuration ? any idea how to grow such a big bubbles tip ? mine small small nia and not much bubbles Quote >> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member angmoh Posted December 28, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted December 28, 2005 ahh btw , are those commercial epoxy safe to use in marine tank ? i mean those that we can get from GIANT/makro hypermart , or hardware shop .. cos i'm goin to glue some of the yumas on a piece of big rock Quote >> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damienkee Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 ahh btw , are those commercial epoxy safe to use in marine tank ? i mean those that we can get from GIANT/makro hypermart , or hardware shop .. cos i'm goin to glue some of the yumas on a piece of big rock bro angmoh....... i dun think epoxy able to hold mushroom lor. normally i will place it at my sump which is low flow with some small rock for it to stick itself on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member angmoh Posted December 29, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted December 29, 2005 damine bro, the mushroom is actually rooted on a piece of rock liao , but i wanna stick the rock onto another big big rock .. hehe, or else always knocked down by snails.. so wondering if the commercial/industry used epoxy can use ma? Quote >> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member YzF Posted December 29, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted December 29, 2005 I'm using 8 x 54w for my tank. No special technique in letting Yumas have big bubbles, they will have it so long they are happy in your tank. You can use the commercial epoxy. (i tried some brands) But i dun encourage them because i think its more expensive compared to the ones meant for aqua uses. I'm dun think there's much issue abt the additives in the commercial epoxy. I prefer superglue or gel. They are neater and easier to use. Some advices to increase the chances of success with Yumas; Try not to let the yuma incline from any angle. They have higher chances of flying off in the tank.eg glueing it in such a way that they are facing you. Avoid the BIG Bubble kind of yuma. They have very high chance of melting. Clear away the slimy stuffs if you see any. It will help to increase the yuma chance of surviving. DUN TRY to put the newly bought Yuma at the top of your 250W! *****This is the most important point to note... OBSERVE the yuma. They will tell you that they are not doing well. Act fast. Most ppl just leave it there and pray that it will recover. Just my opinion. Quote YzF's Tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member kueytoc Posted December 29, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted December 29, 2005 Well I too have my fair share of 'misadventures' with $yumas$... 1.) Yumas that eventually got stuck onto coral chips initially but somehow got 'blown' off by water current & disappeared. 2.) Yumas got eaten by hairy reef crab. 3.) Yumas 'melted'. All my $$$ spent on yumas juz 'flew away'... So be prepared !!! Quote WRASSEY REEF PARADISE 4ftx2.5ftx2.5ft SRC Site: Welcome to My World of WRASSEYS !!! CHUISUI Site: WRASSEY World of REEF Paradise !!! mio CAN-REEF Site: Wrassey World !!! SiamReefClub Site: WRASSEY MASTER Hyper à ¹„à ¸®à ¹€à ¸›à ¸Âà ¸£à ¹Œ ; Silly Fools ; Labanoon ; I-Nam à ¹„à ¸Âà ¸™à ¹‰à ¸³ ; Modern Dog ; Sirasak Ittipolpanish ; Annita - Nisita Pongsong Twin-CAMs Power Module ! ; MIO Dream Car ! ; MIO Alter-EGO ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member angmoh Posted December 29, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted December 29, 2005 wow that's dishearting kueytoc I prefer superglue or gel. They are neater and easier to use. YzF using superglue to glue rocks together ? can it dry in the water ? or we shall let it dry only then put back into the water ? or ? please tell me more about the superglue thingy. Clear away the slimy stuffs if you see any. It will help to increase the yuma chance of surviving. slimy stuffs from ? from other corals or from the mushrooms itself ? DUN TRY to put the newly bought Yuma at the top of your 250W is it ok to put them on top of my 4 x T5HO (aquaZ) ? Quote >> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Maxstar81 Posted December 29, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted December 29, 2005 YzF, very enlightening. Slurp.... Drool .... Nice ! angmoh, slimy stuffs from ? from other corals or from the mushrooms itself ? from itself. Sometimes they like to puke. is it ok to put them on top of my 4 x T5HO (aquaZ) ? Just below U mean ? On top use to fry eggs leh. Anyway, 10k, 20k or blue? A bit intense to me if its all 10k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member angmoh Posted December 29, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted December 29, 2005 well it's 2 x 20kk and 2 x blue pro. my tank is 1.5ft depth. and the yumas placement is about 0.5ft away from the light. Quote >> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member YzF Posted December 29, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted December 29, 2005 You are using 4 x 24w? The photoperiod? In general, i would start off by placing the yuma on the sand bed first (If possible). Shifting will only be done if necessary. If its happy at the first place, why shift it! It doesn't really need too much light. In fact too much light will cause stress and hence small wrinkled 'pimples'.. Like what i mentioned earlier, look out for signs of 'complains'. Every yuma is different. But they all exhibit the same kind of signs to tell you whether they are happy or not. No yuma melts overnight. Most likely they are already been stress for a period of time before they gives up. Even if they starts to melt, there is still SOME chance of them recovering totally. I will try to describe a few kinds of melting. 1. Melting starting from the foot of the yuma. Some kind of whitish slime will be observed. Removed the slime and chances of recovery is high. Look out for factors that are stressing the Yuma. 2. Melting starting from the mouth. Some kind of BROWNISH vomit by the yuma. Chances are the yuma is just 'cleaning' itself or is a little stress (Maybe by the sudden switching on of light). No need to worry too much. BUT IF the vomit is WHITE. Chances of recovering is slim. It will depend on the will power of the Yuma..Hee... 3. Melting from the within. Sometimes the rock under the yuma breaks into 2, dividing the yuma at the foot. The melting starts from under and you never notice it. It will then spread to the centre and by the time you notice anything, its probably too late to do anything. So avoid Yumas with broken rocks. The condition will most likely gets worse when the LFS packed it.. imagine the yuma sandwich or pulling apart by the rocks. The above is based solely from my own experience and observation. I too bought many of the beauties and melt so many of them . I now own about 30 different yumas.. and i hope the above information will help reefers in having more success in keeping this beauties. Let me know if any of you guys spots any nice specimen k... hor.. Quote YzF's Tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Maxstar81 Posted December 30, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted December 30, 2005 Thanks! Will give my yumas a check up over the holidayz. About 30 yumas? Nice ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member zephyros Posted December 30, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted December 30, 2005 for me, the initial sign that leads to melting is the mouth gaping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member nakazoru Posted December 30, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted December 30, 2005 Hi hi; I always have gaping yuma. One orange yuma biggest one always gaping, in some part of the day. Then stop after a while. It is abt 3-4" when expanded. It has always been like this since day 1 for 2 mths liao. So many ppl said gaping, yuma sure "ke chia". I worry but it is still gaping and it is still surviving... The other always look more bubbly than this guy. Sometimes also very bubbly. This is my one and only mood swing yuma. So what should I do??? Frag it? Quote Equipment: 30G Corner Tank with 10G Sump, 2 x 24W artinic T5, 1 x 24W 10K, 1x 24W 20K, 3" Grade 0 sand & Live rocks, Activated Carbon, Bio-home, 2 x Seio M620, Hailea 1/2HP Chiller, Redsea Pro Skimmer Live Stock: Turbo Snail x 1, Green Mandarin Dragonet X 2, Blue Tang X 2, True percular x 2, 1 x Algae Bleenie, Clarke clown x 2 Reef: 1 x 2" Blue maxima, Red/Brown/Purple Mushroom (Discosoma), Pink Ricordea yuma, A little colony Brown/Green common Zoanthus, Red/Pink/Green US Zoanthus, Eagle-eye Zoathus, 14 Branch Goniopora Pandoraensis, 1 Starburst Polyps, 3 + 2 Branch Frogspawn, 4 Blasto, palythoa, Cheato RIPs (Since June 2005): 1. Sabae clown (KO by Clarke clown) 2. 1 branch melted frogspawn 4 branch 3. Golden maxima (Ripe the base off rock by me) 4. Algae Bleenie x 2 (Starvation) 5. Blue Maxima x 1, 2 x Maxima, 1 x frogspawn, rics (Overtemp...) Old 30G Corner Tank. Restarted 30G Corner Tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member angmoh Posted December 30, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted December 30, 2005 gaping means mouth open big big ? Quote >> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member zephyros Posted December 30, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted December 30, 2005 hehe ... rephase myself .. for me gaping means without closing ... if mouth gap but can close, den still ok ... but mine once gap ... i cannot get it to close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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