LFS at Surabaya

[nakazoru]

Hi Guys & Gals;

Some of you know I'm in Indonesia, I have this to share. I search the web for LFS/farm and found Surabaya is one major export of LS/coral to everywhere. Coral/LS come from everywhere and shipped here.

So I try to locate the LFS/farm. Wah difficult to find man.

1st weekend found a night aquarium market (I meant street market) that sell majority Fresh water fishes but with two lousy marine store. Did not find anything that is worth buying and corals are displayed under poor lights. Ask the price, it is at least 1/2 as cheap here. Saw one 4-5" powder blue tang ~28SGD. I think still can bargain.

2rd weekend, call a reef tank setup guy for direction, but did not want to tell me where to get coral/LS, think he wants to get me to buy his setup, said want to come down to show photo of his setup, got his contact from advert in reef tank in few major shopping center.

Carry on search, found another street aquarium market, this time better, 3 marine store, again poor lights. But better than the 1st. Quite happy, more stuff on display. Check the price, cheap again.

Fist size Clam ~ 5SGD (not fully open as poor lights)

Super big 3-4" Sabae clown ~ 3.5SGD

Metalic Open Brain Coral ~ 8SGD

Super big black 10" Frog fish ~ 28SGD

Super nice Orange Carnation Tree ~ 7SGD

One kind of very nice fan-like with small blue/purple bulks (dun know what is it) ~ 3SGD.

8" Volitan Lion (They tell me scopion but I sure is lion) ~ 6-7SGD

Lots of bubble, frogspan, torch, gonio, blue sponge, suncoral, red Cauliflower, tongue, shrooms, dull zoo, coco worms, no SPS.

Fishes - so many that I see in Singapore, except the frog fish so big.

Dun know if I buy too much, difficult to clear custom or not... Also dun know what to buy. So tempted with Orange Carnation Tree, but difficult to keep... Sianz. Too bad no ric... Sianz. I think good stuff exported liao.

Any suggestion on expensive coral in Singapore that I should buy here in Surabaya??? Value for the effort to carry...

[chucky]

if got yuma buy yuma.. in singapore,,,surabaya yuma always very ex..

[nakazoru]

if got yuma buy yuma.. in singapore,,,surabaya yuma always very ex..

If got Yuma, I sure buy and share with reefers here one!

[May&Bruce]

won't you have problem 'importing' corals into SG?

[nakazoru]

won't you have problem 'importing' corals into SG?

Small quantity I heard is okay. Never try before but will not buy to expensive ones. Anyway I will come back for Christmas and go back after New year.

[Travy]

Yuma... Yuma... Yuma.... (Chants...)

[nakazoru]

Yuma... Yuma... Yuma.... (Chants...)

Didn't I say I did not see any yuma???

I even ask the keeper "YUMa" ?? He dun have a clue... I guess all exported.

Seemingly, I stay there for 2-3 hrs, the people there are not really well informed abt reef keeping. So expensive stuff normally exported.

Saw a Chinese lady bought her 3 children, bought a 2 feet tank, LR, sand, NSW, together with some coral and LS. Then go home liao. Pianz this is nonsense. I bet all die in 1 week. By the way, never buy lights.

I guess good/ex stuff are exported, better money. Cheap ones for locals to kill.

I guess I buy below:

Cheapo $5 clam to try in my 4x 2ft T5, if cannot make it, donate to bro in SRC.

coco worms, unknown bulk fan.

Orange Carnation Tree - dun know should I buy or not. Since locals are killing, maybe it stand a better chance wif me.

Anybody want Sun-coral very small, easy to carry.

[ekky_erian]

I live in surabaya, I know a street name's who sell fishes and corals, Patua and Irian barat... you right they having poor light as I know they also have poor equipment to maintain salt water become a minimum standart to keep corals and fishes healthy it's happen coz they should pay more money to use those equipment. In Indonesia buying some of reef keeping stuff is more more expensive than buy and keeping corals and fishes till die

only a few person understood well about reef keeping in Indonesia, and also only a few a rich man can buy equipment standart to reef keeping... so... wat they should do?? I don't know.

[nakazoru]

I live in surabaya, I know a street name's who sell fishes and corals, Patua and Irian barat... you right they having poor light as I know they also have poor equipment to maintain salt water become a minimum standart to keep corals and fishes healthy it's happen coz they should pay more money to use those equipment. In Indonesia buying some of reef keeping stuff is more more expensive than buy and keeping corals and fishes till die

only a few person understood well about reef keeping in Indonesia, and also only a few a rich man can buy equipment standart to reef keeping... so... wat they should do?? I don't know.

Any idea where to buy yuma? Try so hard to look for them leh. If can find, I sure buy lots of them to bring back. Very expensive in Singapore. Abt 150000rp or more per mouth in Singapore.

Also I see very little tangs here, looking for powder blue and blue tangs. Any fish farm here??

Thanks in Advance.

[ekky_erian]

Any idea where to buy yuma? Try so hard to look for them leh. If can find, I sure buy lots of them to bring back. Very expensive in Singapore. Abt 150000rp or more per mouth in Singapore.

Also I see very little tangs here, looking for powder blue and blue tangs. Any fish farm here??

Thanks in Advance.

it's depend on trend or season... some of LPS can't find at LFS due to no stock from farmer or fisherman...

i've friend from Jakarta (ivan christian) fishes specialist, u can find many fishes at his shop or farm. call 628161100855 tell him you are ekky erian friend.

if i've got a good LFS at Surabaya i'll be inform u soon..

[nelson73]

try red parta

[nakazoru]

it's depend on trend or season... some of LPS can't find at LFS due to no stock from farmer or fisherman...

i've friend from Jakarta (ivan christian) fishes specialist, u can find many fishes at his shop or farm. call 628161100855 tell him you are ekky erian friend.

if i've got a good LFS at Surabaya i'll be inform u soon..

Thank you veri much, will call him when I go Jakarta. For now I at Surabaya then to China... Sianz...

Hope have meeting in Jakarta soon...

[nakazoru]

Okay guys;

Update of my test with the customs at surabaya to Singapore.

I bought the following:

5 clams - 2 fist size and 3 half fist size

2 sun corals

1 mushie, which I tot is yuma but now I think otherwise

1 dunno is octo or frogspan or torch

1 Brain Coral, Trachyphyllia

Total damage: approx 270000 rp abt 50SGD, excluding transport.

Arrive at surabaya airport, and my driver go check with custom if it is okay to clear custom with coral, the custom lady claims that I needs govt papers to clear custom for those stuff I buy. My driver say 20,000 rp will do the job. But when I clear the scan, they miss me totally, hahahaha. Pay notting as bribe.

Arrive a Changi Airport, questioned by the custom officer what is in the box. I told him live clams. Then he ask me to hold. Luckily from behind came a bunch of Indon chinese that have more boxes than me, custom caught up with them and demand them to go for scan. I stood there for a while and decided to proceed as the officer went to the scanner with those indon Chinese.

So I still do not know if I can bring them in or not.

I will be selling or most probably trading some of the stuff, go to the trade post for update.....

One clam is reserved by Bro Maxstar81....

If you are reading, santa's here.

[jasonpoh]

Traveller's Tips

Bringing Ornamental Fish into Singapore

Annex A

Types of Ornamental Fish Country from which the product may be imported Personal Allowance

(Maximum amount which may be imported without a licence from AVA)

CITES Species

(Require CITES import & export permits)

Asian Arowana (Dragon fish) Any country One fish in not more than 3 litres of packing water per pax per trip, subject to a maximum of 2 pieces in not more than 6 litres of water per car (2 or more persons in the car)

Hard/CITES corals/Calcareous algae rocks (larger than palm-size) Any country 5 pieces per pax per trip, subject to a maximum of 10 pieces per car

(2 or more persons in the car).

Seahorse Any country 5 pieces per pax per trip, subject to a maximum of 10 pieces per car

(2 or more persons in the car).

Giant clams Any country 5 pieces per pax per trip, subject to a maximum of 10 pieces per car

(2 or more persons in the car).

Non-CITES Species

Fish Any country 30 pieces packed in not more than 3 litres of water per pax per trip, subject to a maximum of 60 pieces in not more than 6 litres of water per car (2 or more persons in the car)

Marine invertebrates (Non-swimming, e.g. soft corals, soft corals or other invertebrates on rocks, not larger than palm-size) Any country 5 pieces of not more than 5kg in total weight per pax per trip, subject to a maximum of 10 pieces and total weight not more than 10kg per car (2 or more persons in the car)

Note: A traveller who imports a combination of the above must not exceed 5kg in total weight and must be within a traveller’s limit for the various items.

Not sure? Seek advice

The guidelines above apply to species allowed for importation under Singapore legislations. If you are not sure if the species you will be bringing is allowed or require CITES permits, it is always advisable to clarify with the AVA before importation. When in doubt, it is advisable to declare your items to the ICA officers.

Travellers can contact AVA for further information:

Tel: (65) 6751 9804

Fax: (65) 6759 5043

Email: AVA_Email@ava.gov.sg

[nakazoru]

Traveller's Tips

Bringing Ornamental Fish into Singapore

Annex A

Types of Ornamental Fish Country from which the product may be imported Personal Allowance

(Maximum amount which may be imported without a licence from AVA)

CITES Species

(Require CITES import & export permits)

Asian Arowana (Dragon fish) Any country One fish in not more than 3 litres of packing water per pax per trip, subject to a maximum of 2 pieces in not more than 6 litres of water per car (2 or more persons in the car)

Hard/CITES corals/Calcareous algae rocks (larger than palm-size) Any country 5 pieces per pax per trip, subject to a maximum of 10 pieces per car

(2 or more persons in the car).

Seahorse Any country 5 pieces per pax per trip, subject to a maximum of 10 pieces per car

(2 or more persons in the car).

Giant clams Any country 5 pieces per pax per trip, subject to a maximum of 10 pieces per car

(2 or more persons in the car).

Non-CITES Species

Fish Any country 30 pieces packed in not more than 3 litres of water per pax per trip, subject to a maximum of 60 pieces in not more than 6 litres of water per car (2 or more persons in the car)

Marine invertebrates (Non-swimming, e.g. soft corals, soft corals or other invertebrates on rocks, not larger than palm-size) Any country 5 pieces of not more than 5kg in total weight per pax per trip, subject to a maximum of 10 pieces and total weight not more than 10kg per car (2 or more persons in the car)

Note: A traveller who imports a combination of the above must not exceed 5kg in total weight and must be within a traveller’s limit for the various items.

Not sure? Seek advice

The guidelines above apply to species allowed for importation under Singapore legislations. If you are not sure if the species you will be bringing is allowed or require CITES permits, it is always advisable to clarify with the AVA before importation. When in doubt, it is advisable to declare your items to the ICA officers.

Travellers can contact AVA for further information:

Tel: (65) 6751 9804

Fax: (65) 6759 5043

Email: AVA_Email@ava.gov.sg

So where exactly I get the CITES? So does it cost more than the LS??? hahahaha

[nakazoru]

Ha ha;

Going to Indonesia next week again.

But this time I call up AVA and confirmed these:

1. Giant Clam needs CITES permit from both countries, so I were in fact violating the laws the last time. So even if it is a 2" clam, it is also considered a GIANT clam.

2. Soft Coral is okay but only 5 pieces.

To bros that I promise that if I go, I'll will buy a clam for you since I run out the last time. Sorry no clam, illegal w/o papers.

[Maxstar81]

Help me see got any CHEAP stuff can ???

(Bubble or hammer)

[nakazoru]

Help me see got any CHEAP stuff can ???

(Bubble or hammer)

Hehe;

Everything is cheap stuff there.

You should say quality and raw stuff.

Anyway, limited to 5 piece so not opening to bros this time. But I PM you when I there to look at the stuff.