H&S 110-F2000 vs Macro KS 100

[blackpuma]

Hi All,

Upgrading my skimmer soon and would like to seek forumers opinion. One H&S 110-F2000 can buy 5 Macro KS 100. Is the Macro skimmer 1/5 as good as the H&S or even better. Is there any fight at all ?

I know that taiwan products are improving everyday and one day they will catch up with the best in the world

Opinions please

[aquabeAnz]

Hi All,

Upgrading my skimmer soon and would like to seek forumers opinion. One H&S 110-F2000 can buy 5 Macro KS 100. Is the Macro skimmer 1/5 as good as the H&S or even better. Is there any fight at all ?

I know that taiwan products are improving everyday and one day they will catch up with the best in the world

Opinions please

on a 1-1 basis, i dun think the macro would be that inferior as to performing up to only 1/5 of the H&S'.

but the real issue might be the reliability and durability of the NW pump of the H&S have longer lifespan as compared to 5 macro NW pumps...

just my wrthless 2 cents...

[riot]

Kidding me right? The HS will kick the macro's butt.

But if you intend to keep softies and LPS, with a light fishload, no reason why the macro cant do the job.

[letdoit]

i using macro 350 and H&S 110-F2000 at same time.

Sorry, i have no time submit photos. i had took photos example: 4 days, 8 days etc....

But will do review on this 2 skimmers soon.

What i can see H&S show big different.

give me time, this few days i very busy...

will post the result next week ( if i free)

[mUAr_cHEe]

H & S stands for HOU-SAY & SWEE!!!!!!!

H & S and macro comparison is like comparing a V12 and a 3 cylinder..... okokok.. maybe not a V12.... V6 loh....

[somebody]

wah....

that would be one big review sia.... haha. =)

[gods_angel77]

using H & S so far very happy with it's performance. system more that 1.5 year 4ftby2.5ftby2.0ft so far no2=0 no3= 0-2ppm only and po4= 0 nh4= 0 ca 400ppm mg 1230ppm sr:16 kh:10 got 33 corals 6 tang which are 4 inc and bigger is size total fish stock not more than 18

Hope the above help

cheers

[ReDDeviLs]

my heart goes with HnS any time.

[somebody]

can't wait to see the review... hehe..

[Mandarin]

Just my opinion, If you compare apple to apple, thats not a problem. But you are comparing an apple with a orange or a Durian:D?????

[somebody]

haha, i guess they really are VERY different in pricing, just wanna see whether they are VERY diff in terms of perf lohz... =)

so that poor souls like me, know what we are missing out on, or are we not THAT far off. =)

[vito]

I thought good skimmer is can make a dark tiny bubble foam in short time ....I think Macro can make it so is H&S ...

[riot]

The density of the bubbles count for a lot. You should get a THICK WHITE MASS of FROTHY FOAM, a solid milkshake in the reaction chamber. The MAcro cant cut it at that level.

But having said that, you dont need a ferrari to take you down the street to the wet market. You have to weight in your load and requirements, and see which skimmer fits your budget. The Ferrari will do the job in style, but with the speed bumps and traffic lights, it will get there approx same time as a Proton Wira.

[somebody]

bro "letdoit",

post the pictures lehz. =) with some review... hehe pulez...

[dreamzcape]

The density of the bubbles count for a lot. You should get a THICK WHITE MASS of FROTHY FOAM, a solid milkshake in the reaction chamber. The MAcro cant cut it at that level.

But having said that, you dont need a ferrari to take you down the street to the wet market. You have to weight in your load and requirements, and see which skimmer fits your budget. The Ferrari will do the job in style, but with the speed bumps and traffic lights, it will get there approx same time as a Proton Wira.

lol bro i like your analogy!

[zephyros]

for 400L skimmer, there's many other to select from.

if u think h&s too X, y not look at AquaC or Tunze skimmer?

[valerossi]

Did u all mention abt $$$?

No all of us born with silver spoon.

Money is a big concern to us without a silver spoon.

[valerossi]

Of course if i got $$, i will invest in better system.

[letdoit]

can't wait to see the review... hehe..

bro took my camera to AUS.

this 2 mths, alot friends also want borrow camera.

lucky i got lousy HP with camera.

i do review again when camera is back.

here is my 2 skimmers

smaller one is H&S

i should change my macro to smaller one so that i can put another skimmer to test out. damm..............

[Melvyn Tan]

Its not small or big that matters, its the technology behind - for everthing else theres a H&S to clean your tank.

Somethings big are useless the hokkien saying "dua cim par kong"

There are somethings BIG however that are useful

[Melvyn Tan]

Money do come into play in our everyday consideration and yes not many are born with a silver spoon, i must agree.

However, it is not the law of diminishing returns that we are talking about here between skimmers of "wide-gapped" performance.

How much is a Macro KS 100 anyway? Am sure Sam can give good offers Tell Santa what you want for this years' Christmas...

Ho Ho Ho

[letdoit]

Its not small or big that matters, its the technology behind - for everthing else theres a H&S to clean your tank.

Somethings big are useless the hokkien saying "dua cim par kong"

There are somethings BIG however that are useful

i mean that i bought wrong because too big, take up space.

my idea is put 3 skimmer in one sump.

[zeotz]

i used a macro as250 (NeedleWheel) before and now upgraded to an H&S 110.

frankly, i dont really see very marked improvement in the skimmate. of course the skimmate definitely better in the H&S, but not by 2 fold in my case although price of H&S is more than 2 fold of macro.

but what i like about the H&S is that it runs super quiet and only 18W, unlike the macro where the needlewheel pump noise got to my nerves. also, the output of my macro had too many micro bubbles which were quite stuborn to deal with (needed 2 baffle in sump). maybe for the KS100 wudnt have such problems, but not sure skimmate good or not.

[Melvyn Tan]

Firstly you say there isn't marked improvement, then you say the skimmate is definitely better, i am definitely confused.

Anyway, can you tell me whats the difference between macchiato and latte?

Some people find that expresso a little too concentrated so they tune by adding a little milk to make it more palatable. Whereas latte has a whole lot of milk plus alot of "Air". Many people will find "don't really see very marked improvement" but note what you are missing. All marine tank contain salt water, but some not only can support hard corals but also colour up, some will brown it like a piece of steak.

Between Air is free, you can have a lot of it too.

[zephyros]

BTW, performance of a skimmer is not directly proportional to its $$$.

the diff might be the better and more X skimmer is still skimming

finer DOC particles, whereas the cheaper skimmer had already stop

skimming.