protein skimmer topic again

[letdoit]

after searching for alot from yahoo. i still unable to find out which type (not brand)

is best. i think won't be a answer.....

let said, normally ppl using "needle wheel" type skimmer.

is there other type better then "needle wheel"????

[Melvyn Tan]

I think the more appropriate question would be, what sort of method (or methods) is good in the production of the type of bubbles necessary for the purpose of churning out dissolved organic compounds.

[letdoit]

thanks.

which method is better???

by the way, beckett and H&S are using needlewheel right?

which is better? better bubble production.

i will try to put 2 to 3 skimmer in one sump for testing soon. ( if i got alot of money. but will buy it for testing)

[dleecool]

I dont think there is a really best skimmer in this world, all this depend on ur bioloads, maintenance schedule and also ur budget. If I told u ###### brand is the best skimmer and it cos $yyyyy, will u buy it?

Hope u get what I mean!!!

[Melvyn Tan]

thanks.

which method is better???

by the way, beckett and H&S are using needlewheel right?

which is better? better bubble production.

i will try to put 2 to 3 skimmer in one sump for testing soon. ( if i got alot of money. but will buy it for testing)

Beckett is a method of employment in the production of bubbles via an "injector type device" with a pump - so its not a brand of skimmer.

H&S on the otherhand is a brand of skimmer employing needlewheel for the purpose of bubble production. H&S is also a manufacturer of skimmers.

[blueheaven]

From my point of view, Beckett is more suitable for large systems with heavy bioloads as the turnover rate is high as compared to needlewheels.

Needlewheels on the other hand, has its advantages of consistent bubble production and run on lesser power than the Beckett.

However, if you are not willing to spend that much on a quality needlewheel, you might be faced with the problem of the needlewheel spokes breaking and the replacement is not worth it.

[alanseah]

However, if you are not willing to spend that much on a quality needlewheel, you might be faced with the problem of the needlewheel spokes breaking and the replacement is not worth it.

A good needle wheel will not have spokes breaking etcs...

And mine is warranty for life that the spoke will never break.

[ervine]

if you have the space (and money) why not just buy a few budget skimmers (macro comes to mind) instead of 1 big expensive one?

[blueheaven]

A good needle wheel will not have spokes breaking etcs...

And mine is warranty for life that the spoke will never break.

Of course la, yours is titatium spokes

[alanseah]

if you have the space (and money) why not just buy a few budget skimmers (macro comes to mind) instead of 1 big expensive one?

if this theory work why not you see alot of ppls doing that..??

buying many same skimmer running in a sump will only result in 1 skimmer working and then the rest not producting anything..

when it come to skimmer it does not mean the more the merrier..

It go to the spec of the skimmer, e.g. your 4 marco can all stop producing skimmate where as I go take out these 4 marco and replace it with a H&S or D&D or BK you will see it skimming even more skimmate then what the marco can produce.

So going for a trustable spec/proven skimmer with the correct spec that meet your tank is the right way to think and get going.

just like u go fit all your pipe to be 8mm with many output.. do you think the amt of flow rate will be better then just a 25mm pipe size?

[alanseah]

Of course la, yours is titatium spokes

well not only mine.. but do you hear WL and the other rest who is using D&D or H&S complaining their spokes broken and giving them problem..??

[alanseah]

letdoit-> just some fair word no offend...

lesson learn in few years of reef teach me that when it come to equipments it never pay to be going for cheaper product. Getting the right equipments take time to choose and most of the time it cost alot more $$ for those good equipments.

You have to tell yourself what you aim to achevie to reefing and on what kind of tank and the spec. Cause by giving excuse and going for cheap product, the problem will come back and hunt you and you will forever have unsolve problems.

[Blenny]

hey guys, can reveal which needle wheel skimmer is using Ti impellers/needlewheel?

[alanseah]

hey guys, can reveal which needle wheel skimmer is using Ti impellers/needlewheel?

Blenny-> There is only 1 skimmer brand that use Ti impellers and that is Bubble King only.

[letdoit]

IC.

so beckett is one of the method

needlewheel is another type of method.

if yes, i will try to buy different type of method into 1 sump. see who can collect more dirt on same time.

i won't used all same brand and method skimmer ..

maybe i will try different skimmer. all suck water at same time and

will also try 1 by 1. ( one week change one skimmer) to test out.

the most i will buy 3 different type......

[alanseah]

IC.

so beckett is one of the method

needlewheel is another type of method.

if yes, i will try to buy different type of method into 1 sump. see who can collect more dirt on same time.

i won't used all same brand and method skimmer ..

maybe i will try different skimmer. all suck water at same time and

will also try 1 by 1. ( one week change one skimmer) to test out.

the most i will buy 3 different type......

wow you so rich..??? lolz.. no offend... but doing like that might as search around and get a big and expensive good skimmer will do.

[letdoit]

because i was confused by this thread

http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/index.php?...topic=24455&hl=

he put all the brands name. beckett is one of it..

[letdoit]

wow you so rich..??? lolz.. no offend... but doing like that might as search around and get a big and expensive good skimmer will do.

no la. buy 2 hand one will do.

just to test out and share infomation to all.

I don't go to hell, who will go.

someone must try all....

of course i won't buy those dual pump, dual needlewheel. that was too much.

my tank also not big. LOL

hope i can share all this infomation to all within 1 year.

more skimmer = more pump = more heat = bigger chiller LOL

[letdoit]

found this website

http://www.reef-aquarium.net/resources/equ...nt/skimmer.html

type of method:

1.Air driven counter-current

2.Venturi

3. Downdraft

4. Aspirating skimmer

so which type for needlewheel or beckett

if not wrong, aspirating type is needlewheel. correct me if i wrong.

what abt beckett type?

[letdoit]

by the way, weipro 2011. using what type?

[blueheaven]

Becketts are venturi

BTW, different types of skimmers take out different stuff so it's difficult to test.

Best is to employ 2 skimmers of different methods

I have my Beckett as my main skimmer and a simple airstone one in my refugium to clean up what is not taken away by the beckett

[ervine]

if this theory work why not you see alot of ppls doing that..??

buying many same skimmer running in a sump will only result in 1 skimmer working and then the rest not producting anything..

when it come to skimmer it does not mean the more the merrier..

It go to the spec of the skimmer, e.g. your 4 marco can all stop producing skimmate where as I go take out these 4 marco and replace it with a H&S or D&D or BK you will see it skimming even more skimmate then what the marco can produce.

So going for a trustable spec/proven skimmer with the correct spec that meet your tank is the right way to think and get going.

just like u go fit all your pipe to be 8mm with many output.. do you think the amt of flow rate will be better then just a 25mm pipe size?

well firstly most people don't have space for 2 skimmers.. although I know some people have used 2 weipros before..

I don't believe 2 skimmers will not make it more efficient than 1 skimmer, it might not be a 100% increase in quality of skimmate but it's definitely better... neither do I believe that having >1 skimmer will result in only 1 skimmer working while the rest just blow bubbles....

While I agree that higher grade skimmers do produce better results but if you talk about budget, 2 lower grade ones might still be cheaper than a higher grade one assuming you have the space for it in your sump...

[blueheaven]

Some good skimmers need not be big and expensive

For in sump models, I still prefer the AquaC skimmers

[letdoit]

at least i am not the only one crazy ppl. some ppl do using 2 different skimmer. at least he know which is better.....

hi blueheaven, AquaC using which type of method? thanks

[blueheaven]

AquaC is using its own patented spray injection method