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Hi

l intend to set up a marine tank next mth when my house is renovated.

However, was told that as a marine lover, i shouldn't be supporting the trade and taking corals from the ocean as corals multiply & grow very slowly like sharks.

No coral reefs = No fishes.

Any advice if live rocks are suffice for a marine tank? :unsure:

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If you are well inform, then you can try keeping coral. Otherwise you will do a major part in destroying them.

Captive coral can do better than in the wild if you are good at what you doing.

Equipment:

30G Corner Tank with 10G Sump, 2 x 24W artinic T5, 1 x 24W 10K, 1x 24W 20K, 3" Grade 0 sand & Live rocks, Activated Carbon, Bio-home, 2 x Seio M620, Hailea 1/2HP Chiller, Redsea Pro Skimmer

Live Stock:

Turbo Snail x 1, Green Mandarin Dragonet X 2, Blue Tang X 2, True percular x 2, 1 x Algae Bleenie, Clarke clown x 2

Reef:

1 x 2" Blue maxima, Red/Brown/Purple Mushroom (Discosoma), Pink Ricordea yuma, A little colony Brown/Green common Zoanthus, Red/Pink/Green US Zoanthus, Eagle-eye Zoathus, 14 Branch Goniopora Pandoraensis, 1 Starburst Polyps, 3 + 2 Branch Frogspawn, 4 Blasto, palythoa, Cheato

RIPs (Since June 2005):

1. Sabae clown (KO by Clarke clown) 2. 1 branch melted frogspawn 4 branch 3. Golden maxima (Ripe the base off rock by me) 4. Algae Bleenie x 2 (Starvation) 5. Blue Maxima x 1, 2 x Maxima, 1 x frogspawn, rics (Overtemp...)

Old 30G Corner Tank.

Restarted 30G Corner Tank.

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No coral reefs =no fishes......just rocks with fish is also possible......

like a FLOWR tank....You should go read up more..they have almost everything on books and around the internet.......If you want to keep corals i suggest you try keeping zoo's they are easier....live rocks are

definately suffice...

Just my 2 cents .....

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If you are well inform, then you can try keeping coral. Otherwise you will do a major part in destroying them.

Captive coral can do better than in the wild if you are good at what you doing.

Hi, Just to share my thought and not to offend anyone..

I suddenly have this thinking...

The very existence of any corals in the ocean will in some way benefit the ocean eco system as a whole, as such by taking these corals away from the ocean the ocean eco system is in some way effected maybe some form of eco or food chain is broken??

Although captive coral can do better than in the wild but no matter how good it is doing in our tanks, it still doesn't benefit / contribute to the eco system as a whole..

Just my silly thoughts... maybe I am wrong or maybe its Monday morning blue.. :lol::lol:

No intention to offend anyone...

CHEERS!

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if ur reef tank is successful..that means u are helping to preserve the corals in captivity.. :D

view my 2ft tank thread update here!!

http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=36399

Tank Dimension: 24'x15'x19' with black silicon. All round 8mm.

Equipments:

Return Pump : Hailea HX6540

Skimmer/Chiller : Sicce 2500lph

Skimmer : Weipro 2011

Lightings: 4xT5s HO..2 20,000k & 2 Blue Pro(Aquaz) Retrofits

Chiller : Resun CL280

Auto Water Top Up

Life Stock:

More then 35kg of figi rocks

Blue Tang, Powder Blue Tang, Bristletooth tang, Clown Tang, Yellow Tang, Purple Tang, Flame Angel, Six Line Wrasse, Sunrise Dottyback. 2 Cleaner Shrimp

Green Bubble, Orange Yuma, Hammer, True Octopus, Acans,

Frogspawn, Green/Orange Cyannaria, Red Prata, Red Open Brain, Star Polyp, Acan Enchinata

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Yup.....helping preserve corals..then you can go on breeding.....

then you can release into the sea....hehehe

Anyway the sea is a big place....where organisms adapt to their enviroments easily....so they also reproduce as they meet all thier nessary needs..not like our fish tank where we can have a crash...

so the eco systems will carry on as normal in the sea...what im worried about is some species are not easy to keep as humans have a urge to try to keep and also meet medical needs ...e.g sea horses.....this leads to mass extinction to the species..though the system can be damaged....

every sea life plays a part..from the cleaner shrimp to six line wrassae....from sharks to whales....so it is not wrong to keep this creatures, but make sure that we are ready for it....not every person in life gets a chance to keep the sea at home!!! hehehe

just me 2 cents..aiyai captain....

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Honestly, if you really wanna go for naturalist, dont bother about fish and coral and marine invertebrate keeping.

Whatever the reefers or other fish-keepers telling you that, puting a coral in his\her tank is doing a good for the coral so their wont extinct are totally bullshits. Its a "beautiful" lie.

Human are nature-destroyer, 1 way or another, anyway, whether be it the ocean or the forest.

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For your case, bro Underwater, you might want to do a bullet proof setup

Taking LR is more destructive than taking corals as corals grow very quickly.

LR however, would take hundreds and thousands of years to form.

For LR, you might want to look at DIYing yourself using cement and sand and for corals, go for aquacultured ones rather than wild ones.

Yes, taking corals from the environment would affect it a way or another.

Just like the butterfly effect in the Chaos Theorem, a small change such as the flap of a butterfly's wings can result in a disastrous change in the future

But if you tame me, we shall need each other.

To me, you will be unique in all the world.

To you, I shall be unique in all the world...

You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed.

-Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Keep our hobby sustainable, participate in fragging NOW

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Yup go for tank bred living creatures!!! hehehe

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My point of view.

Support the internal trade or fragging community in SRC.

Maybe can form a sub forum for fragging & trade.

So when people wanna get new stuff can go look through the thread b4

heading down to the LFS or coral farms.

Read read read b4 buying.

Then U will minimise dead rates,

therefore not such an environmental villian.

Bottomline =

If you're a buddy of captain planet, don't keep fish.

Not intending to offend anybody with my view point.

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wind..water...earth...fire..heart...THe five powers combined im captain PLANET....hehehe

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If you are that concerned go for soft corals as these don't form the building blocks of coral reefs. Most of reef formations are formed predominantly by stony corals like Porites, etc. There are always people selling acropora frags if you are ready for them. Even LPS (Eg. Euphyllia) can be fragged if you know how. Good thing is that coral trade is regulated by CITES. But as a consumer you could always request for captive propagated corals. We need to see a change in mindset of most reefers before reliance on wild corals can be reduced.

Always something more important than fish.

http://reefbuilders.com/2012/03/08/sps-pico-reef/

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I just can't help thinking where did the depleting coral at Tioman, Bali etc goes. It is bcos of tourist polution or us??? All I see is coral chips...

Equipment:

30G Corner Tank with 10G Sump, 2 x 24W artinic T5, 1 x 24W 10K, 1x 24W 20K, 3" Grade 0 sand & Live rocks, Activated Carbon, Bio-home, 2 x Seio M620, Hailea 1/2HP Chiller, Redsea Pro Skimmer

Live Stock:

Turbo Snail x 1, Green Mandarin Dragonet X 2, Blue Tang X 2, True percular x 2, 1 x Algae Bleenie, Clarke clown x 2

Reef:

1 x 2" Blue maxima, Red/Brown/Purple Mushroom (Discosoma), Pink Ricordea yuma, A little colony Brown/Green common Zoanthus, Red/Pink/Green US Zoanthus, Eagle-eye Zoathus, 14 Branch Goniopora Pandoraensis, 1 Starburst Polyps, 3 + 2 Branch Frogspawn, 4 Blasto, palythoa, Cheato

RIPs (Since June 2005):

1. Sabae clown (KO by Clarke clown) 2. 1 branch melted frogspawn 4 branch 3. Golden maxima (Ripe the base off rock by me) 4. Algae Bleenie x 2 (Starvation) 5. Blue Maxima x 1, 2 x Maxima, 1 x frogspawn, rics (Overtemp...)

Old 30G Corner Tank.

Restarted 30G Corner Tank.

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All in all, if you want to do your part in saving reefs and keep this hobby alive for the years to come, support captive propagation and aquaculture.

But if you tame me, we shall need each other.

To me, you will be unique in all the world.

To you, I shall be unique in all the world...

You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed.

-Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Keep our hobby sustainable, participate in fragging NOW

CHAETO Farmer FarmerDan.gif

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