What car should i get? (M18)

[RAV-65]

Oopss...sorry bro.

So here is someone who chase skirt but like to keep it low profile.

Hallo... I very good boy one hor... I rather spend my time chionging LFS...

See corals more shiok than having to pacify a lady and try to please her to tackle her...

[patrick123]

Hallo... I very good boy one hor... I rather spend my time chionging LFS...

See corals more shiok than having to pacify a lady and try to please her to tackle her...

Why are you pacifying a lady. I thought that's her job.

[RAV-65]

Why are you pacifying a lady. I thought that's her job.

Nowadays the young cha bor very ma fan one lah... always wan the guys to be nice to them and make them feel loved... dun u agree?!

[patrick123]

I don't think Lizard bro is looking for LTR (long term relationship) lah.... I think he is looking for STR.

[ah^siao]

i think more of a ONS

[weisoon]

wa... coming out from a person who has been married for 10years....

Heard from many horses mouth, if you know what I mean. Personally, you need to know where the fine line is, to get or not to get involved. Anyway, it is just a game, a very fair game. Ask yourself, is the girl you are going after is for you or your money, one must have a clear mind, head rules, heart loose.

[RAV-65]

Heard from many horses mouth, if you know what I mean. Personally, you need to know where the fine line is, to get or not to get involved. Anyway, it is just a game, a very fair game. Ask yourself, is the girl you are going after is for you or your money, one must have a clear mind, head rules, heart loose.

Dun worry bro... tink the person who posted no offence one...

Seriously... I tink for anyone who go to lengths to celebrate a 10 year anniversary with the missus, the person must be a fine husband...

[lizard44]

hi ALL,

so many writings ... i hope all have benefited from this discussion too.

the type of gal ... hmmmm ... better not say it in this forum, otherwise the rating will need to be increased.

i have done some searching on the net about affordable sports cars ...

BM 6 - 4.5L too big for me, can't afford.

lexus 300 - okie but not very sporty.

accord euro r - 2L is little too "small" for me. i have a hideous tail that needs to be hidden from public view.

evo 9 - 2L.

BMs Vincent and Patrick, please tell which beemer is a good skirt-chaser ... thx

rx-6 or 8 - 1.6L.

lexus 430 - 4.3L too big for me, nice but can't afford.

lotus - i think it is expensive ...

Saab, Audi, SLK, Beemers, mini, 206, beetle - i think all very ex leh ...

maybach, RR, Bentley - when i become an adopted son of sultan ... i think in singapore there are less than 50 of these creatures around. obviously i am not rich ... let alone top 50s ...

dradttg - spending on gals. that's the last thing i will do from now on (very wimpy) ... don't worry i will learn from the gurus here and bkk and give my field reports later after the car is bought.

patrick - "I think car is not the main factor. It helps but not the main factor unless you are in a bentley (sit in the backseat and not the one driving it)."

since you said a bentley does matter, then a nice car does matter, i will report it back to you ... later when i get my gears working ...

piglet - oui ... i am just playing the system. see what's the result ... a fair game as pilot said.

RAV-65 - vincent: no more chionging ... you are kidding me ... come on be a man ... hahahahaha

pilot - "Heard from many horses mouth, if you know what I mean. Personally, you need to know where the fine line is, to get or not to get involved. Anyway, it is just a game, a very fair game. Ask yourself, is the girl you are going after is for you or your money, one must have a clear mind, head rules, heart loose."

never trust an old horse to the game .... hahahahahahahaha ... do me a favour ... i will sms you when ... please don't go near zouk or china black or devils ... otherwise me smallish lizard no chance against the soaring eagle.

seriously, my search yield very little results: ... sigh ... skirt-chasing also so hard ...

mostly yield the silly car nissan 350z to be within my budget ...

lizard

[mUAr_cHEe]

BM 6 - 4.5L too big for me, can't afford.

got 630 leh....

lexus 300 - okie but not very sporty.

finally!!! something that we agree!!!! but definately... not skirt chaser....

accord euro r - 2L is little too "small" for me. i have a hideous tail that needs to be hidden from public view.

its definately not a skirt chaser.... more for boy racer...

evo 9 - 2L.

boy racer... not many gers know how to appreciate such a beauty....

BMs Vincent and Patrick, please tell which beemer is a good skirt-chaser ... thx

6s.... can go for 630.... topless... but might be off your budget...

rx-6 or 8 - 1.6L.

i tot only RX7 or RX8..... both is 1.3L rotary engines......

skirt chaser... definately.... and even better racer!!!! oh yah.... got blackhole in the fuel tank as well....

lexus 430 - 4.3L too big for me, nice but can't afford.

lower end of skirt chaser..... thats all i can say....

lotus - i think it is expensive ...

it is not.... a 238K car... that can outrun and outmanoeuvre a ferrari/porsche... i think it is worth it.... its only a skirt chaser untill she tries to get in or out of the car....

Saab, Audi, SLK, Beemers, mini, 206, beetle - i think all very ex leh ...

maybach, RR, Bentley - when i become an adopted son of sultan ... i think in singapore there are less than 50 of these creatures around. obviously i am not rich ... let alone top 50s ...

Audi TT is okie.... 200K some.... good alternative to lotus elise...

SLK is okie.... personally i think more ladies car.....

SL... i think far from your reach....

SAAB.... i think not that many skirts dig trolls....

Beemers.... wait till she wets herself when u floor the M3 or M5....

Mini... the new cabrio is not too bad.... definately gers will "kawaiiii..."

206..... boy racer toy...

Beetle.... gers will "kawaiii..." guys will "gay boy....."

350Z.... skirt chaser..... cheap too.... 3.5L V6..... at 150K some.....

the rest.... yes yes.... out of reach!!!

another thing u gotta remember is the fuel cost...... huge CC...the bigger the blackhole in the fuel tank..... and also road tax......

oh yah.... the time and effort to keep car clean to be skirt chaser worthy......

the polish..... if u giving ppl do... the cost of polishing..... at least once a month to be able to catch some skirt's eye......

oh yeah....... its that troublesome.....

[weisoon]

Dun worry bro... tink the person who posted no offence one...

Seriously... I tink for anyone who go to lengths to celebrate a 10 year anniversary with the missus, the person must be a fine husband...

Where got so easy offended one.... Must keep cool, maybe due to my job. If I panic, then one day you will be worried if you happen to be in my 'office'.

男人会花心的

Just that must let the head (actual human head, not the other head, please do not let the mind wonder) do all the decision, not the heart and stay focused.

[weisoon]

do me a favour ... i will sms you when ... please don't go near zouk or china black or devils ... otherwise me smallish lizard no chance against the soaring eagle.

Now hardly go there lah, Zouk, Velvet Underground, Indocinne, etc. Got to set up tank and look after kids.....

[lizard44]

mUAr_cHEe:

hahahahahaha ... you have sized my budget rather well ... hehehehehehe

bm 630 is still way way out of reach ... rx-8 or 9 is also not my type ... lexus 300? hmmm ... i already got 3.3 azera ...

bm 6s will be likely my next upgrade if my skirt-chasing hardware needs improving ...

350z it is ...

i suspect if i were to get sporty at 2L, i will only catch the lower end of the skirts, below 6s. well ... just my opinion ... with 350z hopefully there's improvement in ranking to 7-8. 9-10s needs ferraris, porsches or lambos, which i can't afford. i will get one of them once my wifey leaves for earth from middle earth. some of my kakis said i better learn to spend, otherwise 1 day i might find half my kingdom takes a walk somewhere else. hahahahahahahaha ...

thanks for the prefect touch ...

weisoon:

"Now hardly go there lah, Zouk, Velvet Underground, Indocinne, etc. Got to set up tank and look after kids....."

your statement has caught me by surprise. do you know how much the world misses a fine gentleman like you? you are simply selfish ... man ... oh boy ... you should share with the world.

never heard of the phase: "all good boys are married" or "boy no bad, gals no like"?

i have left my humble nice guy days ... cos of great self-professed pretty but bastardy women too ... sad huh?

ALL:

thanks for all the invaluable comments. i have learnt lots about skirt-chasers. never have i hunt so hard for one ... hopefully it helps ...

thank you ... this forum rocks ...

lizard

[patrick123]

Isn't this true? "boy no bad, gals no like"?

But I wonder why????

[lizard44]

patrick:

bon jour, my friend ...

"Isn't this true? "boy no bad, gals no like"?

But I wonder why????"

give you some sammyboy inputs:

this is from a gal (old one unfortunately, her view is our beacon no matter how untrue and misplaced it was):

From: Mom_Teresa 14-Oct 13:32 To: Carls09 4 of 91

Listen to me, Boyboy. If a girl likes you, she likes you. It's gonna very difficult for her to dislike you. You don't even have to court her. If she doesn't like you but nevertheless treats you like a prospective b/f, it's because she is having difficulties with finding the one she likes.

You court a girl only when opportunties don't allow you to mix around with her. For eg, she sells bread at Delifrance, and in order to get to know her you have no choice but to patronise her. Once you get to know each other, she immediately decides if she likes you or not. You don't have to court her.

From: Mom_Teresa 15-Oct 07:09 To: Itto_Ogami 16 of 91

<...then she start the mind games to see how deep is your love?>

There are reasons why some girls play mind games. If a guy embarks on a 'cards on the table' strategy, the charm of mystery (sometimes known as the lure of curiosity) is lost. You lose your cham, you lose your attractiveness, and it opens invitation for the girl to play the game of control.

The game of control appeals to the girl's ego; that is to say, mind games are never there to test the veracity of your love.

If the girl likes you, she will fear losing you. A girl who plays mind games with you is not attracted enough to you.

A girl is drawn to a man's confidence. Always remember that. And it's not confidence built on flashy cars and expensive dinners. It's being self-assured, and that alone exudes an aura of masculine charm.

Only when you are lacking in confidence that you need flashy cars and expensive dinners to bolster your confidence. Good girls are not drawn to flashy cars and expensive dinners. The sluts will find them attractive, though.

From: Mom_Teresa 15-Oct 09:34 To: Itto_Ogami 22 of 91

<<<.. Good girls are not drawn to flashy cars and expensive dinners. The sluts will find them attractive, though....>

that means over 90% of SG women are sluts.>>

I think I need to make myself clear. Mxxlims eat Hallal food. But that does not translate to everybody who eats Hallal food is a Mxxlim.

From: Mom_Teresa 15-Oct 09:40 To: Carls09 23 of 91

< But in the end his sincerity won her heart. And this fairy tale story must have brought some smiles to those nice guys out there.>

That's because the movie lasts only 2 hours. In real life, is your love story and marriage going to last just 2 hours ?

From: Mom_Teresa 15-Oct 10:21 To: Carls09 25 of 91

You missed my point.

It's a movie. In real life, the test of your love begins with the marriage. And if you are in Singapore, you will know that 20% of the marriages are likely to end up in divorce.

If TCS or Raintree commissions me to write to script that can sell well, I will definitely not write about the high incidence of divorces in Singapore, and the realities leading to such divorces.

Who is gonna be my audience ? Girls for sure. I will appeal to the fantasy of most girls. For them, nothing beats being in control of the relationship. I will make the girls feel like they are little princesses. To do so, I will have to make the male lead a wimp BUT camouflaged with plenty of romance. The impressionable young guys after watching the movie will think it great to be romantic.

Guys with aspirations no greater than winning the heart of a girl is a wimp. In real life, these guys are not going to attract any girls.

Don't talk to me about sincerity blah blah blah. Everyone is sincere to his or her own desires. There is nothing to shout about.

From: Mom_Teresa 15-Oct 11:13 To: jbjjbjjbj 28 of 91

BTW, sincerity only works when the girl is lonely. So it's not sincerity that is at work, but loneliness.

From: Mom_Teresa 15-Oct 13:54 To: Carls09 33 of 91

I'm not going to be drawn into arguments on the merits of the movie, My Sassy Girl. If you think you can emulate the male lead in My Sassy Girl, and if you think he inspires you enough to slave-chase a girl for 3 years, it's really your choice.

I'm just trying to give you an insight into how the psychology of women living outside the romantic movie operates. I've been in this forum for quite a while, and it seems that many young Singaporean romeos just don't get it, to the extent that they think it's kinda 'cool' or 'man' to sacrifice their dignity to put the girl on the pedestal.

The same people would later cry after being ditched by their little princesses and wallow in self-pity thinking that they've been victims of some great romantic encounters.

The truth is a man must learn to love himself first. I really mean a man must learn to protect his dignity among other things. A man who kowtow to a girl is very romantic, but WEAK at the same time. A man who is unable to protect his own dignity is unable to protect anything, and that's the reason why they often get screwed by the girls they thought who were in love with them.

A weak man is the worst representative of mankind ! The live under the cloak of romance.

From: Mom_Teresa 15-Oct 22:47 To: Carls09 36 of 91

< these very same wimpy guys who got jilted came back stronger after licking their wounds.>

I'll be very happy for the future of Singapore if that is the case. I don't have statistics, and I don't think AC Nielsen compiles any statistics on our local romeos.

However, if you've been watching some of the threads in this folder, you will see that the same wimpy guys who got jilted they lament most of the time and don't come back stronger. As long as they continue to indulge in their little fantasy of being victims in some great romantic encounters, they continue to be wimps of the highest order. They just don't understand female psychology and naively draw lessons from romantic dramas and movies which only serve to promote little princesses and glorify romantic wimps.

If you have the masculine appeal of man, trust me, the girls will flock to you. The attraction that men offer to women is far greater than the attraction that women offer men.

The problem is most local young punks lack knowledge and confidence. In their eagerness to get into a relationship, they pander to the wimps and fancy of the girls they are after, and completely forget to cultivate their masculine appeal.

In short, the romantic wimps allowed girls to define 'a nice man' and shape their destiny.

From: Mom_Teresa 16-Oct 03:05 To: i_am_belle 41 of 91

I don't classify men with masculine appeal as alpha males, because I don't know enough of the meanin gof alpha males. Likewise, I wouldn't go as far to say that a mere romantic act makes a male a wimp.

It's the aspirations from the heart of a man that I'm targeting. Very often, a man gets himself trapped in a lost relationship or who suffered lost love has a small heart or little aspirations. A man with a small heart offers his heart easily to a woman, and a man with little aspirations often values romance more than other things in life, including his dignity, his future, his masculine appeal etc.

A man with a big heart does not go around offering his heart to girl and gets himself trapped in sorrows arising for lost love. No sane man will dwell in sorrows. It's not sorrows that draws a man to lick wounds. The man actually derives honey from licking the wounds, the honey from the memory of sweet romance. If only he had greater aspirations in life, like every man ought to, he would have overlooked lost love and move on to soar greater heights in life.

You court, you slave, you humble, you joy, you cry etc....over a girl, and you think it's justified because love is great. It's not the love you are after; it's the youth of a girl that you are mesmerized. If the same girl takes a magic pill and ages 30 years within days, would you still court, slave, humble, joy and cry over her ? You would probably move to the next SYT. This is exactly what a man should do if the girl rejects you. Move on to the next SYT.

The alpha male who turns into a wimp, I really don't know what goes into the definition of a alpha male. I certainly don't see men keeping moustache, spewing vulgarities and smoking cigarettes as evidence of masculine appeal. Likewise, masculine appeal does not mean 'bad boy' image. It's in the heart; it's the aspirations.

As for wimps always winning the girl, you have to ask if they have also won the respect of the girl. A girl can marry a man for many reasons. The man would like to believe it's love and respect. The high incidence of divorce proves otherwise

From: Mom_Teresa 17-Oct 11:55 To: hose_lover 65 of 91

The playboy approach is better if your objective is just to get into her pants.

From: Mom_Teresa 17-Oct 13:45 To: slayer59 unread 68 of 91

The 'sensible statement' was a very recent inspiration. I'm surprised that nobody raised it until you did.

I just hope boys who are turning into men know that romance is just a sweetener to make your food of life a little more tasty, but not the food itself that is supposed to nourish you and make you grow.

There are many more important things in life than just 'pleasing a girl'. You don't love your child by buying him expensive toys; you are creating a spoilt brat in the child.

Likewise, it's the dumbest thing to romance a girl by buying her expensive dinner. You are feeding her ego and making a little princess out of her.

If a girl does not know the proper way to be loved, you should teach her like you teach your child that sweets and ice-creams are not proper diet.

If Sg girls are bad, it's all because of you, Man. You had the opportunity to be her teacher, but you chose to be her servant.

And why did many choose to be servants ? It's because they have not understood what it takes to be a man. Learn to be a man first, and you will know how to handle a girl. You don't become a man by learning how to please a girl.

From: Mom_Teresa 17-Oct 22:35 To: lizard44 71 of 91

<thx indeed ... now i am promoted to a playboy ... sadly but true, i feel no more love ... old fool me ... just *expletive* and chuck ... air39 you are my play man ... mom you are my mum ...>

I'll clarify one more time in this thread that I'm not advocating the playboy model as "the way" to court a woman. The playboy topic came about because of the need to make a comparison.

I'll say again that if your objective in courting a girl is to get into her pants, the playboy model is good. If you adopt the playboy model not because you are a natural playboy but you fear rejection by the girl then you are a coward. Like a wimp disguised as a 'nice guy', a coward disguised as a playboy is just as much pathetic.

If you don't invest sincerity into a relationship, you can never appreciate the true value of a relationship and experience the joy a sincere relationship brings.

BTW, it's unfair juxtaposition to put me alongside Air39, the attention seeker.

From: Mom_Teresa 20-Oct 10:23 To: Serenditpity 78 of 91

<I dont necessarily agree with you that being romantic is at the cost of becoming WEAK>

I did clarify in this thread not once but twice that not every attempt to be romantic would turn a man into a wimp. It's what you hope to achieve with being romantic and how you react when your love is not reciprocated that we witness if a man is weak.

If you want to come across as "the knight in shining armour", then you must never give up your armour and climb down of your horse. The problem with many useless romeos is instead of riding on the back of the horse with their armour shining, as soon as they are infatuated with a girl they give up both the armour and horse. Instead of being a knight in shining armour, the man becomes a 'waiter in lacy aprons' taking orders from his damsel.

By doing so, you destroy your image as knight in shining armour, and you destroy your masculine charm, leaving the damsel with very little to imagine the relationship.

If you can't be the object her imagination, your relationship is heading to the rocks.

From: Mom_Teresa 21-Oct 23:55 To: lizard44 unread 84 of 91

<a guy having a crush on a gal is no sin. he may pander over and care for her, as he has held her as an important part of his life - wife material. he is NEVER weak, but just merely doting.>

You are digressing. Nobody is saying that having a crush on a gal is a sin. Nobody is saying that pander over and care for the girl is a sin. Nobody is denying that the guy who does exactly that - pander over and care - sees the girl as important and wife material.

You can even call it sincerity, devoted, romantic, faithful etc. whatever nice terms you can think of to justify the actions that will eventually make you LOSE the girl and break your heart.

And you know what ? This is what I have been trying to say all along, and I believe many others have already understood - the GIRL just don't give a damn !

Being unwise is also not a sin. The same can be applied to your beloved baby - doting on the child and pander over and care - until the baby grows up and become a spoilt brat. It's not a sin too.

It's not about sin. It's about being wise. And being wise is a choice. With greater reason, being weak is also a choice.

From: Mom_Teresa 22-Oct 00:07 To: lizard44 unread 85 of 91

When a man dotes on a woman, pander over and care for the girl, it's not always love at work, especially when the man and woman are still getting to know each other.

Why does a woman need to be doted, pandered over and cared for ? Is it because the woman is fragile ? Absolutely not ! It's because the man is so afraid of losing the woman. The man is so afraid because the man values the woman highly in his life. The man values to woman highly because that's precisely his biggest aspiration (or one of his biggest) in life.

The man feels insecure from the beginning. So who is fragile ? The man or the woman. Well, when the relationship falls into pieces after all the doting and pandering, we will know if the man or the woman is the fragile party.

A fragile heart that can be broken so easily STEMS from a weak constitution in the character.

There are books written about tactics that will help you get the girl. You are not forced to adopt the tactics that you deem disrespectful to the girl. But a wise man will seek to understand the rationale as to why girls succumb to such tactics. That's what my post is all about.

If a man fails and still thinks that a girl should think the way he thinks, and fall in love the way he wants her to fall in love, then it's not just weakness at work. A greater character flaw is responsible.

interesting read? disappointing, uh?

do remember, i was also called a wimp .... sad but true ...

hence, we must tranform to what they dream ... hahahahahahahaha

lizard

[patrick123]

This is good shit. hehehe. I need to print this out and read it later since it is so long. hehehe. But if you have anymore, please send it to us.

I agree with this 100%, as this is my real life experience too:

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Listen to me, Boyboy. If a girl likes you, she likes you. It's gonna very difficult for her to dislike you. You don't even have to court her. If she doesn't like you but nevertheless treats you like a prospective b/f, it's because she is having difficulties with finding the one she likes.

[patrick123]

From this article, seems like Charisma and confidence is more important than look or fancy sports car.

[weisoon]

never heard of the phase: "all good boys are married" or "boy no bad, gals no like"?

Once in a while still practices them, only in my 'office' and overseas.

男人不花心 ， 女人不爱 ???

[RAV-65]

Once in a while still practices them, only in my 'office' and overseas.

男人不花心 ， 女人不爱 ???

Once in a while meh??

[dravan]

the girls want a package... not just cars that are flashy... they like u to treat them bad... then test ur love for them by coming up wif stuns... don't give in to all their stuns as if u make them feel damn secure... she becomes bold and ventures out thus the more insecure u make them feel the more they want to attract ur attention... they like to complain that u are not spending enough time wif them etc etc... but actually they enjoy it as they are trying to gain ur attention... but then everything is a balance like fishing... if u pull the string too much it breaks and the fish escape... if it is too slack, the fish escape with ur bait... thus don't overdo things.....

[lizard44]

dear patrick:

this is what a woman said. not what we said. a fancy car speeds up a g-close. please read dravan's comment.

i know it sounded rather lame. if you based it on slow and steady, then you g-close long long time once, lor.

in the west, you can g-close without them meeting you twice. but, not in sg. seldom you g-close within one meeting, unless it is friend's friend. then, different. a fancy car is like an extension of the fun-loving you. you are the AM (alpha male), not an AFC. an AM is a strong specimen of the male species, all females will want to be in the AM's inner circle.

just an off-topic: in the animal kingdom, only the AM got to do all the females. the rest are AFCs who DON'T get to do. some AFCs tried to rationalise that they are socially correct. but, nevertheless, an AFC. you don't get the do. the reason is the females will only go for the AM to carry his "strong" genes for the next geny. so if you show a wimpy persona, you will not get the do. giving flowers, buying drinks are wimpy. AMs get them to bring him drinks. that's the difference.

then, how to do it. well ... the book said you must be able to handle rejections, move on when you get a rejection. analyse your own mistake and learn and try again. don't be a one-itis.

by looking at your car, they can already fantasize the size of your hmmmm ... others are smaller by comparison as AMs are also successful specimen in other areas (the female must conclude that way unfortunately, otherwise she will get you to eat out of her hands, so do be careful, i was once like that, so no prize for guessing them right for me). some PUAs use magic tricks, palm-reading or something you don't get to see during normal times. i am also doing some palm-readin course at the moment. also, learnin how to sms e young kid way. hard work.

we are also renting an apartment for secure feelings too. nowadays, renting a condo is rather cheap. once they enjoy the treat, you are in. but, remember they will ask you to buy them drinks, NEVER do it. cannot be a wimp anymore. you must stand out. look ... who's talking ... we share our experience, lor.

having a flashy car and apartment like what dravan said is not too necessary. this i agreed. but, why do i still do it - well - for faster transactions i guess.

yesterday, i number-closed an UG. so, no big deal, although she was young. i am just rAFC for now. the best part was everytime i told her something, she blushes ... shiok.

one of the patterns i am thinking of is the roller-coaster pattern - (1) it is fun and exciting, (2) you want to do it again and (3) you are secure. condo is the secure part (3) while the car is the fun extension of me (1). repeat part (3) haven't figure it out.

if you do pu at shopping centres, no way you can g-close, at most number-close, not even kiss-close. i will tell you the night spot experience, when i get to it.

i haven't dare to try the 7-8s worst 9-10s. still a chicken AFC. combined with uni or poly qualifications, can die, that challenge.

thx dravan for the excellent opinion ... we all learn ... nice ...

(interestingly, recently i applied the same principles into my business by trying to become the AM in the businesses, it worked for me splendidly. so please don't look down on this technology the west has developed.)

lizard

[patrick123]

Wow...need to update my abbreviation list. What is AFC, and this g-close, number-close etc?

Everyday learning new things. Looks like you guys are more expert. hehehe.

BTW, so your objective is to get g-close to as many chicks as possible in the shortest amount of time?

[tayhonglee]

hey bro lizard,

i don't mean to be rude or anything.

i mean, i don't know anything about you at all, although i have the impression that you are married. but then again i might be mistaken coz i skimmed through your thread quite quickly.

but if you are, i think it helps to remember our wedding vows and what we have promised our better halves.

henry

[patrick123]

I think Lizard bro is still young and single. Not like me...old and married. hehehe

[RAV-65]

Ya lor... Lizard still a young man and he's got raging hormones to handle!

[tayhonglee]

oh, so sorry! i must have jumped to conclusions.....sorry bro lizard.....