Rare Color Combi Ricordea Yuma (part Ii)

[Ricordia]

Hi Ricordea,

I wish to cancel my reservation. Thanks and sorry for any inconveniences caused.

Cheers

OK....if u wish to come back for it anytime, you are most welcomed.

However, subject to while stock last...hehehe.

Cheers

[Ricordia]

I believe ricordia is just trying to share soome good stuff with those who are truely interested in the yuma.

for those who are not comfortable with the arrangement, why not drop out and let the others move up the list

ricordia doesn't owe you anything

Thank you for your kind understanding...

[onghm]

Hi Ricordia,

Pls drop me from the list.

Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

[Ricordia]

Hi Ricordia,

Pls drop me from the list.

Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

OK....if u wish to come back for it anytime, you are most welcomed.

However, subject to while stock last...hehehe.

Cheers

[piero]

Come shut me up by proofing the legality of your supplier and I will post an apology here.

[Ricordia]

Come shut me up by proofing the legality of your supplier and I will post an apology here.

My friend....you are really beyond help.

I have already made crystal clear...about my position.

NO COMMERCIAL SELLING, NO BULK ORDERS!!!!

With these in effect, I see no reason why should I entertain you further.

Stop destroying the tranquility and peace this thread is having.

[new reef]

1. dersuz (2pcs) Hp : 9753 3554.

2. joop? (2pcs)

3. reef2 (2pcs)

4. woonming (1pc)

5. Ruel (2pcs)

6. onghm (1pc)

7. killfire (1 pc)

8. Seahorse2 (1pc)

9. huskiesg (2 pcs)

10. new reef (1pc)

Hope I am not too late to add in to the list !!

[Achilles Tang]

Hello folkz,

Just got back today... and wow... looks like this thread is taking on the same tone as Day's commercial post thread.

Ricordia, I think with the recent uproar over the source of Day's coral specimens, there has been some concerns about this bulk order thread and your intentions.

While there may be some concerns about Day's SPS corals which are most probably protected from illegal harvestation by CITIES, I think ricordea mushrooms are not within the CITIES list, althought AVA would need your import clearance... since you have gotten a LFS to import in for you... I believe the proper documentation was done? This seems to be a doubt that you have to clear.

I think what the issue raised by some reefers here is:

If this is a bulk order, you would let everyone know what the price is so they will commit to the total amount.

Now it seems that is actually you purchased in bulk from a LFS and you are selling off the excess and getting a list of people who are interested in reserving some for purchase. So that much is clear now?

While you may have enjoyed a bulk discount from your direct source, maybe some people feel that you should be more open so they know whether you are:

1. Making a tidy profit from selling the excess (not good).

2. Actually helping your buyers enjoy a better price that LFS's (good).

3. Whether you are helping a LFS make profits by raising publicity and confirming purchases and enjoying a commission (not good).

This controversy is raising too much speculation which I feel that you should be extremely open about in addressing it (concerns that I have raised before with you).

If there is little proof that you can rovide or you have not given enough explanations that can be substantiated, you will probably face suspicions from your fellow hobbyists and as an Admin, my personal POV is that you should make great effort to clear all doubts ASAP as too much controversy may result in trouble.

I want SRC to be a place for friendly hobbyists, so far so good... but recent posts by some hobbyists for sales of corals seems to be inviting too much scrutiny.

Let's clear the air!

AT

[Ricordia]

Hello folkz,

Just got back today... and wow... looks like this thread is taking on the same tone as Day's commercial post thread.

Ricordia, I think with the recent uproar over the source of Day's coral specimens, there has been some concerns about this bulk order thread and your intentions.

While there may be some concerns about Day's SPS corals which are most probably protected from illegal harvestation by CITIES, I think ricordea mushrooms are not within the CITIES list, althought AVA would need your import clearance... since you have gotten a LFS to import in for you... I believe the proper documentation was done? This seems to be a doubt that you have to clear.

I think what the issue raised by some reefers here is:

If this is a bulk order, you would let everyone know what the price is so they will commit to the total amount.

Now it seems that is actually you purchased in bulk from a LFS and you are selling off the excess and getting a list of people who are interested in reserving some for purchase. So that much is clear now?

While you may have enjoyed a bulk discount from your direct source, maybe some people feel that you should be more open so they know whether you are:

1. Making a tidy profit from selling the excess (not good).

2. Actually helping your buyers enjoy a better price that LFS's (good).

3. Whether you are helping a LFS make profits by raising publicity and confirming purchases and enjoying a commission (not good).

This controversy is raising too much speculation which I feel that you should be extremely open about in addressing it (concerns that I have raised before with you).

If there is little proof that you can rovide or you have not given enough explanations that can be substantiated, you will probably face suspicions from your fellow hobbyists and as an Admin, my personal POV is that you should make great effort to clear all doubts ASAP as too much controversy may result in trouble.

I want SRC to be a place for friendly hobbyists, so far so good... but recent posts by some hobbyists for sales of corals seems to be inviting too much scrutiny.

Let's clear the air!

AT

Quote:

While you may have enjoyed a bulk discount from your direct source, maybe some people feel that you should be more open so they know whether you are:

1. Making a tidy profit from selling the excess (not good).

2. Actually helping your buyers enjoy a better price that LFS's (good).

3. Whether you are helping a LFS make profits by raising publicity and confirming purchases and enjoying a commission (not good).

Ans:

I believed in my earlier PM to you about the import of yuma was strictly

for my own collection purposes.

As for the issue of bulk discount as you mentioned above, unfortunately I don;t stand to enjoy such benefits from the supplier.

As the rules of import applies, suppliers are not willing to send 1 or 2 pieces

unless a certain quantity is met.

And for my case, my supplier quota is still reasonable.

Anyway, I am still keeping your PM to me regarding this issue.

In due respect, I have taken all neccessary steps suggested by you in your PM.

The reason of transferring this post to this thread under Bulk orders was suggested by you in your earlier PM.;

which I have stated clear of my reason of having some yumas for sale

AND

post some pics of my ricordea garden under the members tank photo section.

I believe that my actions are so clean-cut and I am quite puzzled why it has become such a controversial issue now.

Quote:

Now it seems that is actually you purchased in bulk from a LFS and you are selling off the excess and getting a list of people who are interested in reserving some for purchase. So that much is clear now?

Ans:

There is some concern about the amount of the yuma I am getting in your last PM to me. I have also clarify with you that the quantity hardly goes round 15 reefers.

Thats why your concern about my quantity which may constitues to bulk amount ,is clarified and understood by you in my last PM to you.

Although there seems to be alot of reefers queueing up for the yumas, however I am sorry to announced again that there are not enough yumas to distribute to all.

Quote:

I want SRC to be a place for friendly hobbyists, so far so good... but recent posts by some hobbyists for sales of corals seems to be inviting too much scrutiny.

Let's clear the air!

Ans:

I think understanding between members is needed to establish a friendly environment. Acts of impulsiveness and jealousy will destroy the tranquility and peace this SRC is enjoying.

[Achilles Tang]

Ricordia...

Oops, I did not read and refresh my memory on the history of your explanations before posting and now that I did, it does seem that truely, there is nothing sneaky or dodgy about this bulk order.

To clarify:

You did not enjoy any bulk discount but to get your order in, there was a minimum quantity required for shipping, and you got a few reefers to share with you. You did not make a profit.

These reefers were informed by PM on the price and not divulged publicly for your own reasons.

This shipment was ordered thru a LFS and was properly cleared for the import permit by AVA.

Please verify again.

If whatever I stated here is true and verifiable, then there is no further need for any controversy and doubt as I think there's nothing dodgy about this.

This isn't anything like the other obviously commercial thread of livestock that was taken from dubious sources. So whoever was on Ricordia's case, please back down, as so far, I think there's nothing to harp about unless someone can prove otherwise.

AT

[Ricordia]

My last conclusion:

If I still cannot seek for an common understanding among all the SRC reefers here,

I guess I will just personally PM to those, who shares the same level of appreciation for yuma beauty and value as I do, for the subsquent yumas I am getting in.

This act may seem injustice to those new members as I am depriving them of a chance to own this gem......

My early apology to you all...

Only when times to come...when I see that the SRC has matured to that level

where all the members share a common understanding among themselves and want to enjoy the sharing of some corals which some LFS dun cater......

Then I might consider posting them again.

[bwilly]

I thought Singapore law is guilty unless proven innocent??

[piero]

As promised earlier, I apologized for any inconvience caused for the seller and those who are buying. Since there has been a common agreement reached by our boss, AT and the seller, there is nothing that I should probe further on. Maybe just a bit too sensitive on my part after the last episode in the other post.

[Ricordia]

As promised earlier, I apologized for any inconvience caused for the seller and those who are buying. Since there has been a common agreement reached by our boss, AT and the seller, there is nothing that I should probe further on. Maybe just a bit too sensitive on my part after the last episode in the other post.

Not a problem... at all.

I am not that petty.

Cheers.

[Achilles Tang]

Ric,

I still need you to verify these points:

You did not enjoy any bulk discount but to get your order in, there was a minimum quantity required for shipping, and you got a few reefers to share with you. You did not make a profit.

These reefers were informed by PM on the price and not divulged publicly for your own reasons.

This shipment was ordered thru a LFS and was properly cleared for the import permit by AVA.

[Ricordia]

Ric,

I still need you to verify these points:

You did not enjoy any bulk discount but to get your order in, there was a minimum quantity required for shipping, and you got a few reefers to share with you. You did not make a profit.

These reefers were informed by PM on the price and not divulged publicly for your own reasons.

This shipment was ordered thru a LFS and was properly cleared for the import permit by AVA.

1)LFS?

I thought I already announced that I got a friend,who runs a fish farm and has the license to import, to help me on these yumas?

2)Verification of non-profit action?

I personally think that this is very debatable topic.

Can I say that propagation of corals to sell in this forum consider profit gaining

too? ( No offence to any party)

Furthermore,

A perfect knowledge on the price can be established with the easy price check with any LFS or internet and with the freedom to reject their reservation to purchase,

I think profit gaining actions are inexistence.

No forced selling on my part....I believe those reefers here who are interested to buy have the perfect knowledge on the market price before approaching me.

3) My friend's farm has frequent visits by AVA, I dun see any problem to that.

In order not to make things difficult for you and for the best interest for SRC,

I will stop posting any sale of the rare strain of yumas which I may be getting in soon.

[Ricordia]

I think profit gaining actions are inexistence.

Sorry..typo error.

Non-existence.

[ong]

For whose who interested in colour yumas. Last week, I saw a few pcs. in lor halus farm, block D the new shop move from PM. I got a pcs with 7-8 orange yumas for only $5.

[piero]

So cheap??? Are they dyed?? Can post pics?

[woonming]

So cheap??? Are they dyed?? Can post pics?

Yes at time u would be able to get them at rock bottom price .. But i dont think these are the same as what ricodea were selling .

[ong]

No, not dyed. Same as what some reefer here posted for sales. may not be as 'nice' as their but is worth it.

[vagabond]

I saw those green and orange yumas selling at LCK201. They are selling $15 per rock and there are 10 plus per rock. Also, if you are as luck as me, they sell live rock with a few yumas for only $6 per kg.

Cheers!

[bwilly]

I saw those green and orange yumas selling at LCK201. They are selling $15 per rock and there are 10 plus per rock. Also, if you are as luck as me, they sell live rock with a few yumas for only $6 per kg.

Cheers!

r u kiddin my fren.. myself, spider n diablous went there once..

nuthing at all, n the chio bu someone mentioned.. eh hmm..

b4 that I went there too.. nuthing to see n buy..

now I onlli drive pass n give it a fleeting glance on the way to CF..

[DeepBlue]

my fren...I tend to agree...their stocks are limited....

but I did find some treasures from time to time.....very cheap.... worth checking the place out fr time to time....

but not make special trip there though...

[Terryz_]

they will have surprises...