Chip in $ & let ppl run ur biz

[Justiana Er]

Any bisnessman here? Will u guys out there chip in ur hard earn savings & go into biz & be a "sleeping" partner & jus wait for ppl 2 earn $ for u & u take the earnings end of d mth?

[nim75sg]

Why not?

But prior to investing, need to do diligence and governance checks and this type of investor is known as "angel" investor.

[cyclop]

$$$ is not so easy to earn nowadays. If your partner is trustworthy enough it would still be safer to do "diligence and governance checks" as nimsg75 had mentioned.

For myself, I would rather be an active partner or not at all.

[lizard44]

hi sis JE,

the answer is NO NO NO !!!

why?

well, i am a dirty business man ... all business men are up to no good if they ask for money ...

meaning they need money to tie them over their own problems ... once they do that ... you can safely say bye-bye to your cash. it will never return.

if you want sure thing ... well ... bank lah ... (also not so sure actually) ... but you get 0.125%

that's very sad.

otherwise buy shares lah ... you can get about 15% IF YOU ARE LUCKY and hit the right stocks ...

don't buy insurance that are investment type .... (sorry, i just speak my mind, hope insurance guys don't feel bad, i am not saying bad things here, just the type. insurance will always have a place in businesses)

money doesn't grow on trees and hence, you cannot hope to make money by sitting back ...

then how can one make MONEY safely ... well, ask bro zehuan ... he's got the answer ... not me, i am afraid ...

lizard

[lizard44]

sorry sis JE,

one more thing .. you are a girl .. so don't need to worry about money what?

don't even need to think for him ... remember your man always got BIG EGO one ... so better quiet quiet ... and just ask him for all the leather stuffs ... soon you can get them only behind taka called GINZA.

just get your man to work hard and help him spend his money lor ...

all my @!@#$$%&(*&(^%$&*% gals spend my money dry ... ohhh boy ... some even got the cheek to ask for cars ... sigh ... poor lizard, such hideous abomination ...

lizard

[ervine]

u know the saying... "you cannot trust others to do your own work"...

esp when it comes to money issues there will be a lot of problems.

Imagine you do all the sh*t work.. then here comes this guy shaking leg at the end of the month demanding a bulk of what you have earned...

That's why I also hesitant to get a loan from a silent partner... all the work I do in the end have to give him big cut in the end... bad move man...

[lizard44]

hi ervine,

yes. you have presented the sentiments of the other side ...

it is a big de-li-ma ...

on one hand the business man needs the money to start, hence, he doesn't mind getting the money in exchange for the shares of the profits.

on the other hand, the gal giving the money, will only give the money on condition of a certain minimum share, otherwise no go ...

at the beginning, all systems go, all are happy ...

the business bestest collapses ... otherwise problem will appear ...

your situation comes about due to ONE reason (that same reason you mentioned):

i.e., the business managed to turn around and start to make money as predicted ... hahahahahahahahahaha ...

initially the business man will give the fair share to the gal .... but after a while, he felt not so good, unless the business man can have a go at her ....

you saw it coming actually ... most businesses require effort to sustain the operations, normally our dear business man does not factor in this part as business cost. hence, every time the profit is gotten, the business man ALWAYS feel that he deserves more. .... sigh ... human greed ... but can't really blame him ...

it will come a time, where the business man will give the ultimatum and quickie (oops, i mean quit) the partnership.

ANOTHER business bites the dust ... hahahahahahahahahhaha ... how nice.

the fallasy of man - GREED. the business man failed to undertsand that the money is also important to start him off or get going for the business. as history became legend. legend became myth. much that once was is lost. for none now live to remember ... (always works for ALL my love letters to gals, hmmm ... so proud a copycat: I)

the gal failed to understand that as her man continued to work hard, there may come a time where the effort overwhelms the initial sums of investment. dis-satisfaction sets in ... the gal forgot that the man also needs to be comforted, i.e., she needs to give some sugary carrots to make him happy. just a teeny weeny bit will do, just like in all my cases.

so that your donkey-man or in MIN's words, the mule-man will continue to work his guts out. how nice ...

lizard

remember, ladies out there: a DIOR period bag (yes, that furry one) is now going for $2,870 only. please get one before its is out of stock ... get your donkeys going, gals ...

in this respect, i really hate MIN, he really brings the baddest of gals out: he said the gals (jockeys) love to treat their men as donkeys, worst still mules; a mule is a terrible cross between a donkey and a horse, so it is born of no ###### organ or ability. his existence is to wait for his sad exit ... he can't run like a horse winning trophies for the jockey, he can't carry loads like his donkey mother ... damn sad existence ... sadly too ... i am also a mule to some of my gals ... sigh ... since i know it ... why not ??? ... erhmm ... i just can't help it ... i am in love with them all ...

as MIN said: it is also the stupidity of man that maketh the gals so c*ck-sure of themselves and ride all men like horses, donkeys or mules depending on your breeding (rich or not) ... hahahahahahaha ...

[cyclop]

We can certainly learn from lizard44's experiences and advices.

all my @!@#$$%&(*&(^%$&*% gals spend my money dry ... ohhh boy ... some even got the cheek to ask for cars ... sigh ... poor lizard, such hideous abomination ...

I'm not a "ter kor pek" so no way gals can do that 2 me .

I'd rather spent my $$$$ 4 my own beloved wife and buy her all the expensive stuffs she wants.

[lizard44]

arhhhh ... cyclop

you are still young ... have not suffered like me ... you have not been insulted by the gals you like ... if you have then you wouldn't behave so nice oredi ...

when the gal tells you NOT to embarass yourself by exposing your fat self in the swimming pool ... that's when you will flip to the dark side ... like the lizard

when you are ready, you shall become my APPRENTICE of the DARK FORCE ...

may the dark force be with you ...

lizard

[lizard44]

hi sis JE,

since you are a gal ... let me give you one manhood advice ...

YOU BETTER SPONGE YOUR MAN DRY ... REMEMBER FROM AGE 8 TO 80, DON'T ALLOW YOUR MAN TO FEED FULL. OTHERWISE, YOUR MAN WILL HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCE TO START ANOTHER FAMILY.

why allow a problem to start, just kill the issue by making him poor and you thyself the envy of the town with all your expensive value-less gifts from your man.

for a start, try the brand "fly-off-chicken-feather" (in cantonese), it is nice and very not-too-expensive, but, still kills a normal man. if you don't know what's the brand, ask your girl friends ... they will surely know ...

if your man is stronger than normal, try CHANNEL brand lah. me gals all try CHANNEL brand, almost killed the lizard, ohhh, boy ...

ha ... i am beginning to feel like MR ANDERSON ...

lizard

[lizard44]

hi sis JE,

just one more thing: (wow ... i so free meh ... because i just gone out-of-love, so heart very pain, must do nonsense to defocus on the sharp pain)

business is not an easy subject ...

if your people tell you that you need or they need money to start a business. then, i am sure that business will fail.

if a business cannot start within one's means, that business idea is a bad one.

MARK my words ... i am telling you the truth ...

lizard

you don't know how fetish i am for young business women ...

[lizard44]

business is about starting VERY VERY SMALL ...

you will bound to make mistakes; but since it is small, it can weather the mistakes way way better than big decisions ... so that you can last longer to see the light at the end of the CHANNEL bag ...

then, am i a small business man?

YES and NO ...

yes. i started small.

no. i am no longer small ...

even microsoft started with a 2-man show, same same for apple and hp.

so please don't hear big stories ... start sizing up smaller ones ... you will feel better ...

even local joints like charles & keith started very small ... ACCS (bad now) also started VERY small ...

small is beautiful ... by being small, you have to do one-leg-kick, so you know every bit of the business process, so when you grow bigger, you can still manage to solve their problems, because you've been-there-done-that. it is like a chief-cook that no longer needs to cook ...

better end this by saying ...

it is only my 2-cents worth ... wor

lizard

[cyclop]

Lizard, didn't know that you suffered alot and insulted by those "silly gals". They are really too much to have done that to a nice man like you. Now I do understand how you feel and why you flipped to the "dark side".

You are right that I've not gone thru that kind of experience at all. But, I'm not "young" as you might think. I've gone thru a lot in life -"sour, sweet, bitter & hot" (chinese translation) and I've grown from each bitter experience to be even stronger each time. In fact, they had helped me to see things in more positive light. Especially, seeing myself - what I am, my strengths as well as weaknesses.

I developed my strengths and strengthened my weaknesses.

Though I must admit that I am human and do still succumb to weaknesses every now and then. But, I'll never allow myself to be an "APPRENTICE of the DARK FORCE".

Having seen many of your postings I did discern some sense of bitterness, but I thought they were only a some of your "jokes". After all, that's what we do at KOPI TIAM - having some fun and de-stress. Never knew you were serious!

My apologies if I had mentioned anything unpleasant. I though we were all just having some clean fun.

[lizard44]

chill ... my friend cyclop ...

Life is but a fun thing to be ...

be happy and breathe well ...

enjoy ...

i had never been in love before ... i am trying it out now ... wish me luck ...

money indeed can buy or acquire a lot of things, but it will also mask the true feelings ... so very hard to detect nowadays ... lizard is growing very old and short-sighted.

i am not bitter ... it is just that i have so much talent in me ... but, i have no one to share them with ... that's my only regret ... i really don't wish to finish my life alone.

lizard

[cyclop]

Life is but a fun thing to be ...

be happy and breathe well ...

enjoy ...

Fully agree!!!!!

i had never been in love before ... i am trying it out now ... wish me luck

...

I thought you already have a family???

it is just that i have so much talent in me ... but, i have no one to share them with ... that's my only regret ... i really don't wish to finish my life alone

SRC Kopi Tiam is a nice place for you to share your talents.

BEST OF LUCK TO YOU!!!

Sorry

[zehuan]

then how can one make MONEY safely ... well, ask bro zehuan ... he's got the answer ... not me, i am afraid ...

??? I am very clueless bro...

[lizard44]

hi zehuan,

you clueless ... then we how?

i thought you got hold of a money-magic book from borders or was it kino ...

don't bluff us you know ... we saw you lurking around in taka ...

lizard

[lizard44]

hi cyclop,

very glad you provided an outlet for me ...

i love to share my talents here in Kopi Tiam ...

but, i only share with skirts ... then how ...

go bkk and do ######-change and i then share my talents with pants .... hehehehe

lizard

[Justiana Er]

Em.... looks like after reading the response i had d answer already.

Actually i'm a person tat is very difficult 2 part w $, 2 part w my $ hve 2 be....after think & thinking....em....those ppl out there always call me a "cat"(very stingy)

[lizard44]

yo ... sis JE,

cat also must dress up hor ... otherwise your man run away ...

my fish ran away today because i forgot to dose SUGAR ... damn woman ...

lizard

[lizard44]

sorry ... sis JE,

have a confession to make ...

actually we have all deceived you ... there is one ring made in darkness that will rule them all ...

by suggesting to you not to go ahead is like saying one should never take risk ... in that case no risk no return ...

of course, the other way is NOT true: high risk high return ... most of the time is high risk never return ...

bro zehuan will now explain his catch 22 theory ... otherwise you will land up on the dark side ...

lizard

[Justiana Er]

yo ... sis JE,

cat also must dress up hor ... otherwise your man run away ...

my fish ran away today because i forgot to dose SUGAR ... damn woman ...

lizard

[SpiderOne]

i got a safe easy way to make money . no capital required . every week you come to my house i find some things i dont want and u go walk up and down orchard road selling them to people . u keep 10% ai mai .

[Justiana Er]

i got a safe easy way to make money . no capital required . every week you come to my house i find some things i dont want and u go walk up and down orchard road selling them to people . u keep 10% ai mai .

Wah only 10% so miserable.

[mabro]

Ya lor, and by doing that, seems more like working than investing................