anti-nitrate chemical

[johntanjm]

hello!

I've got a 2ft tank supported by another 2ft sump tank running. I partinion the glass and did an overflow filter that pipes down into 2 DIY coil de-nitrators inside the sump, with an airpowered protein skimmer, some live sand and some mangrove saplings i plucked recently. Ammonia and nitrites are undetectable, now the only problem is nitrate. I saw this chemical at Clementi 328 fish shop that removes nitrates from water. it says its got enzymes inside that will convert nitrates into CO2 and water. I wonder where the N in the N03 go to. but anyway it cost 38 bucks. I mean if it really works.. i wouldnt mind paying, but if it doesnt as with all other additives i've tried, then its really a waste of money. anybody has any info on this? Thanks!

[hamannbmw]

regular water changes will help... u nv know whats inside the container. BTW, try to use a better skimmer

[Flame-Tail]

My friend reccomended to me "Seachem Stability". costs only $9 from pet mart in serangoon north. She tried it and it reduced her nitrate from abt 40 ppm to 0. (Just one bottle)

I hv just started using it. No harm trying. Have not tested though. want to fin the whole cycle before testing. I also do weekly water changes.

hope you are able to reduce your nitrate soon.

All the best

[loster]

My friend reccomended to me "Seachem Stability". costs only $9 from pet mart in serangoon north. She tried it and it reduced her nitrate from abt 40 ppm to 0. (Just one bottle)

I hv just started using it. No harm trying. Have not tested though. want to fin the whole cycle before testing. I also do weekly water changes.

hope you are able to reduce your nitrate soon.

All the best

sound interesting... anyway, how long does your friend bought the No3 from 40ppm-0ppm?

[Flame-Tail]

sound interesting... anyway, how long does your friend bought the No3 from 40ppm-0ppm?

Withion a month. but hers was a 4 by 2 by 2.5 ft tank. So the results might vary. but i still think it's worth a try..It does not harm your l/s in any way. So far mine all doing ok.

[johntanjm]

i dont really trust seachem products tho. the last time i used the seachem liquid buffer that promised to keep my pH at 8.3, i dosed almost the entire bottle, pH stayed at 7.8 but dKh shot to 20+ so i'm quite aprehensive. will go check it out. Thanks!

John

[ozy]

There is another product from Seachem, Purigen that is a media based material that absorbs nitrate. It is also rechargeable through the use of bleach. Have go a bottle but not tested it yet. Anyone have tried?

[tineng]

There is another product from Seachem, Purigen that is a media based material that absorbs nitrate. It is also rechargeable through the use of bleach. Have go a bottle but not tested it yet. Anyone have tried?

nay.....kind of useless...... ....does not seems to bring down nitrate for me...

in fact, i found a significant drop by just washing/changing my filter wool twice a week!!!!

Other method i had tried:

- Ey-No3 - work quite will, take about 3 weeks to a month...for big tank can be quite expensive

- Suger/vodka.....surprising well in bringing down no3/po4.....but after 3 months SPS starts to die - dunno if it the cause so gave up the method.

- Zoevit - working very well, still using it.....for small tank not really feastible as you can really control the flow well enough, causing RTN at every change of media.

[gerald28]

care to explain about the sugar method

[zephyros]

hmmm ... r u looking for anti-nitrate chemical for short term or

long term solution?

cheers

[cityofangels]

care to explain about the sugar method

I'm very skeptic about the sugar method. I've heard of ppl crashing their tanks when using this method.

[loster]

this is becasue they don't know how to use it and it needs constantly monitor their water parameter

[Flame-Tail]

I'm very skeptic about the sugar method. I've heard of ppl crashing their tanks when using this method.

Yup. Was actually posted by one of the reefers in this forum.can't remember who tho.

[johntanjm]

The purigen bottle looks good. The descriptives on it sound even better! but its $20 for 250ml of it, so I didnt dare to try. On the other hand I got a litre of SeaChem De*Nitrate. Its like a filter medium and its supposed to reduce nitrates to 4-5mg/L in about a week. And that cost $18 so I decided to try it.

As for washing the wool part, congrats you've isolated the source of your nitrates. The wool is probably where all the organics get trapped but there's not enough bacteria to chow it down, so removing them physically will help just like you did.

The last time i checked nitrate levels before using De*Nitrate was 20mg/L, will check it again over the weekend and hopefully I see some significant changes.

What sugar/vodka? sounds really interesting. Tell us all about it!

[gunzo]

hello!

I've got a 2ft tank supported by another 2ft sump tank running. I partinion the glass and did an overflow filter that pipes down into 2 DIY coil de-nitrators inside the sump, with an airpowered protein skimmer, some live sand and some mangrove saplings i plucked recently. Ammonia and nitrites are undetectable, now the only problem is nitrate. I saw this chemical at Clementi 328 fish shop that removes nitrates from water. it says its got enzymes inside that will convert nitrates into CO2 and water. I wonder where the N in the N03 go to. but anyway it cost 38 bucks. I mean if it really works.. i wouldnt mind paying, but if it doesnt as with all other additives i've tried, then its really a waste of money. anybody has any info on this? Thanks!

I think the chemical you are referring to is AZ NO3??

my friend recommended.. so i went and bot a bottle last week

I have a 2ft tank also ..20 gal water.. conditions are >50-100ppm no3

since i started midweek (last wednesday).. levels remained unchanged

did a 20% change over the weekend (no3 dropped to 25-50ppm)

by yesterday i had reached 1 short of max dosage recommendation (word of advice DON'T! ) for 50-60gal tank ( 5.5ml..max being 8ml)

yesterday nite all fish gasping.. so pump air for 2 hrs .. 2day 2 din make it.. morning test 25ppm no3

this evening test again <12ppm no3

dotty RIP (good riddance killed 2 of my fire gobies, ate 2 yashias, ate 2 cleaners)

boxer RIP (sigh 4 boxers RIP 3 due no3 4th due chemical to remove no3 )

test kit - tetra no3

measured before work at 6am

after work ..usually at nite

chemical added nitely per instruction for 50-60gal tank..

think follow the instructions should be good

for letting me rant

[Guest]

The purigen bottle looks good. The descriptives on it sound even better! but its $20 for 250ml of it, so I didnt dare to try. On the other hand I got a litre of SeaChem De*Nitrate. Its like a filter medium and its supposed to reduce nitrates to 4-5mg/L in about a week. And that cost $18 so I decided to try it.

As for washing the wool part, congrats you've isolated the source of your nitrates. The wool is probably where all the organics get trapped but there's not enough bacteria to chow it down, so removing them physically will help just like you did.

The last time i checked nitrate levels before using De*Nitrate was 20mg/L, will check it again over the weekend and hopefully I see some significant changes.

What sugar/vodka? sounds really interesting. Tell us all about it!

i had put a 1L Seachem Denitrate bottle of this into my 4foot tank for a week now. The NO3 is still at 100mg/l!!!

Anyone know what the sign that the fishes can not stand it any more?

Does anyone know petmat sell AZ NO3? Like to try it.

[loster]

water change may help

[Guest]

No use le.

Just change 20% 2 days ago still remain at 100mg/l

[Flame-Tail]

No use le.

Just change 20% 2 days ago still remain at 100mg/l

IMO it take more than just one water change to reduce your nitrate. Your nitrate levels as indicated seems to have been built up over time so it will naturally take some more time before it is reduced.

I also have high nitrate levels so I have cut down on my feeding and have been doing regular water changes. Am also in the midst of decommisioning my "Nitrate Factory"(bio-balls and ceremic rings).

So all the best to the both of us

Cheers

[dleecool]

I had used 2 bottles of AZ-NO3, saying that will reduce nitrate to zero, but to me it reduce zero nitrate for my tank!!! Useless to me!!! I wont use it anymore!!!

I think water change still the best to reduce nitrate!!!

[Guest]

wondering why same product worked for one tank and not the other? is there some missing link?

can we totally trust the test kits?

heard the NO3 test kit first convert NO2 to NO3 then we take the reading after 10 minutes. If the tank is not properly cycled, will the be any possiblity that we are measuring NO2? I did not measure NO2 before but if the NO3 reading is high can i say that the tank is cycled?

[Derek0925]

I think the chemical you are referring to is AZ NO3??

my friend recommended.. so i went and bot a bottle last week

I have a 2ft tank also ..20 gal water.. conditions are >50-100ppm no3

since i started midweek (last wednesday).. levels remained unchanged

did a 20% change over the weekend (no3 dropped to 25-50ppm)

by yesterday i had reached 1 short of max dosage recommendation (word of advice DON'T! ) for 50-60gal tank ( 5.5ml..max being 8ml)

yesterday nite all fish gasping.. so pump air for 2 hrs .. 2day 2 din make it.. morning test 25ppm no3

this evening test again <12ppm no3

dotty RIP (good riddance killed 2 of my fire gobies, ate 2 yashias, ate 2 cleaners)

boxer RIP (sigh 4 boxers RIP 3 due no3 4th due chemical to remove no3 )

test kit - tetra no3

measured before work at 6am

after work ..usually at nite

chemical added nitely per instruction for 50-60gal tank..

think follow the instructions should be good

for letting me rant

same here bro.....i did as what you have done...

saw all my fishy grasping for air....next day purple tang, powder black, powder blue, sailfin, yellow tang and blue face all up lorry....

left 1 blue tang pull thru

So cautious before you dose......

[Tigger]

I am still running Seachem denitrator media. Did not reduce the NO3 as claim.

[johntanjm]

I am currently using 2 anti-nitrate products. Seachem stability as Flame-Tail reccomended to me earlier, and also SeaChem De*Nitrate. De*Nitirate instructions state very clearly that you've got to reduce nitrate to below 20 through water changes before using. I did that and together with daily dosage of stability for the past week, nitrates have been kept under 20. I doubt it will ever reach zero.

If u see my tank on the tank page, I've also resorted to germinating mangrove seedlings to remove nitrates. My personal opinion, go natural. Don't get those chemicals. very damaging.

As for purigen and de*nitrate, active carbon and what not i believe they're still effective but after using so much to limited effect, It has caused me to think that maybe its to do with the design of the entire filtration system. The way water flows thru it whether its effective or not.

I think we shouldnt work towards reducing nitrates cos that doesnt solve anything, but rather we should work towards reducing and neturalising the rate of nitrate production. So like always ###### up the shit thats accumlated before they decompose i think will help.

[loster]

for those who uses AZ N03 product, try to do water change if your N03 above 50ppm. and dose it under recommandation value. don't over does it cos it is not suppose to bring down your N03 over night. it will takes a month and with constant water change. it only helps u for a short term. u got to relook into your your current setup and your bio-load