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bought a couple of corals on friday .. bought a VERY NICE goby .. added them in and rearrange the layout of the tank abit .. next day .. 75% of the fish up the lorry .. left 1 fire goby, 1 neon and 1 rendall goby ..

today wake left damsel only ..

could the coral release toxic things into the water when I intro it into the tank ?!?!?!?!

At first thought the grass took up too much oxygen during night so oxygen starvation .. but then .. the grass with the fish from day h+1month liao ..

got those FIDO hair looking grass turning white on me also .. they turn white then brown (suspect die liao) ..

SIGH .. can anyone tell me what's wrong ?!?!?!?!??!

when the fish died measure all parameters ..

NO2 increased alot (went up from 0 to 10ppm)

NO3 no change (about 25ppm)

PH7.7 (dropped from 8.3)

salinity 1.023

sigh .. lonely devil swimming only .. all the rest keechia liao :(

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Bro,

Your NO2 is high .Maybe you add too much LS in one go.

Your PH drop too low liao.

Check your Mg.Ca and KH.

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1 HP Daikin compressor with cooling coil
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bought a couple of corals on friday .. bought a VERY NICE goby .. added them in and rearrange the layout of the tank abit .. next day .. 75% of the fish up the lorry .. left 1 fire goby, 1 neon and 1 rendall goby ..

today wake left damsel only ..

could the coral release toxic things into the water when I intro it into the tank ?!?!?!?!

At first thought the grass took up too much oxygen during night so oxygen starvation .. but then .. the grass with the fish from day h+1month liao ..

got those FIDO hair looking grass turning white on me also .. they turn white then brown (suspect die liao) ..

SIGH .. can anyone tell me what's wrong ?!?!?!?!??!

when the fish died measure all parameters ..

NO2 increased alot (went up from 0 to 10ppm)

NO3 no change (about 25ppm)

PH7.7 (dropped from 8.3)

salinity 1.023

sigh .. lonely devil swimming only .. all the rest keechia liao :(

sori to hear abt this bro... by the way wat is yr tank size.... cos if its a big enough tank , adding what u've added shd not cos that big a swing in the no2

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Bro,

Your NO2 is high .Maybe you add too much LS in one go.

Your PH drop too low liao.

Check your Mg.Ca and KH.

Regards

Sherman

added 2 corals only

my ph dropped before to this level .. no fish pengsan ..

sigh ..

just tested NO2 again .. go beyond what the test kit can measure liao .. wah liao .. 1 day only .. from 0 to so much !!

Just changed water .. about 30-40% .. see what happens ..

if the devil also up the lorry .. then start all over again .. sigh .. gotta wait another 3-4weeks again !!!!!!!!

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Are you doing anything wrongly first?

We need details of your setup ;)

But if you tame me, we shall need each other.

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To you, I shall be unique in all the world...

You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed.

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Are you doing anything wrongly first?

We need details of your setup ;)

Nothing wrong with the setup .. been running with everything for 3 months liao .. only thing is added the corals .. then fish die ..

every one of the parameters are within norms

only after adding the corals then every thing become erratic .. sigh :(

Lets see

I know I shifted the location of some of the LR after adding the corals ..

tested the water 1 day later .. PH dropped slightly

then today NO go thru the roof and all (except 1) fish upz the lorry

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sori to hear abt this bro... by the way wat is yr tank size.... cos if its a big enough tank , adding what u've added shd not cos that big a swing in the no2

oh yea .. paiseh .. small tank .. 2 ft cube .. avg used to add max 2 corals .. got the typical PH swing (from 8.3 to 7.7) .. but this time .. everything went crazy ..

Oh yea .. water stinks !! like punggol point at lo tide

Oops .. sorry .. forgot to add ..

stirred up the water today while changing water .. guess that can cause the NO to spike big time ?!?!

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I meant we need details like your tank size, equipments and husbandry

Where you got your LR? How did you cycle? What type of filtration do you use? ;)

But if you tame me, we shall need each other.

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I meant we need details like your tank size, equipments and husbandry

Where you got your LR? How did you cycle? What type of filtration do you use? ;)

eh .. does that have an effect on the addition of the corals ???

bought the LR from pacific (most of my LS bought from there anyway)

small 2 ft cube tank

built in filter sump system

cycled for about 3-4 weeks (LR in after 2 weeks)

2 nemos with me from dayH until current then they up lorry..

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LR can leech lots of phosphate, nitrates and other undesirable stuff

Maybe you stressed your corals when you moved your LR

What corals did you buy? :huh:

But if you tame me, we shall need each other.

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think maybe I know the reason ..

now everything settled down .. back to almost normal again !?!?!?!?!?!?!?

(NO2 still higher than normal at 0.5ppm)

When I moved the LR and the corals .. I stirred up the sandy bottom .. could this cause all the shit and rubbish and compost to surface and kill all the LS with the ROT ??

I complained about the stinky smell earlier .. now no more ?!??????!!

:(

:unsure: gonna keep the devil inside for a couple of days to make sure .. then start from 0 again .. sigh ..

1 maroon

1 fire goby

1 flame goby

1 boxing shrimp

1 devil

1 dotty

sigh .. REDO AGAIN !!

damn hard to find flame and rendall !!!!!!! :angry:

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Never stir the sand or shift LR too much as it is a Storage of trash. They acts as a filtration media in the tank. Thats what happens, and take care.

Water change- no need as it is cause by you but since so much fish perish, might as well.

Equipment:

30G Corner Tank with 10G Sump, 2 x 24W artinic T5, 1 x 24W 10K, 1x 24W 20K, 3" Grade 0 sand & Live rocks, Activated Carbon, Bio-home, 2 x Seio M620, Hailea 1/2HP Chiller, Redsea Pro Skimmer

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Turbo Snail x 1, Green Mandarin Dragonet X 2, Blue Tang X 2, True percular x 2, 1 x Algae Bleenie, Clarke clown x 2

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1 x 2" Blue maxima, Red/Brown/Purple Mushroom (Discosoma), Pink Ricordea yuma, A little colony Brown/Green common Zoanthus, Red/Pink/Green US Zoanthus, Eagle-eye Zoathus, 14 Branch Goniopora Pandoraensis, 1 Starburst Polyps, 3 + 2 Branch Frogspawn, 4 Blasto, palythoa, Cheato

RIPs (Since June 2005):

1. Sabae clown (KO by Clarke clown) 2. 1 branch melted frogspawn 4 branch 3. Golden maxima (Ripe the base off rock by me) 4. Algae Bleenie x 2 (Starvation) 5. Blue Maxima x 1, 2 x Maxima, 1 x frogspawn, rics (Overtemp...)

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I have to emphasize that periodical water change is strongly recommended unless you have the equipments of an oceanarium :lol:

But if you tame me, we shall need each other.

To me, you will be unique in all the world.

To you, I shall be unique in all the world...

You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed.

-Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Keep our hobby sustainable, participate in fragging NOW

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Never stir the sand or shift LR too much as it is a Storage of trash. They acts as a filtration media in the tank. Thats what happens, and take care.

Water change- no need as it is cause by you but since so much fish perish, might as well.

I thought the smaller your tank is the more regular water change is required as there is not much room for error. And ammonia, nitrate and nitrite will rise quickly is a smaller tank.

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update..

everything back to norm liao .. now just monitor the conditions..

water change done and will be doing weekly until no3 < 12ppm ;)

bought a skimmer also :P finally

and my small cooler finally arrived .. :huh:

www.coolworksinc.com :yeah:

1 day to cool to 28deg..

and found out the doctor i just boight over the weekend pregnant!! :upsidedown:

eh how to take care?

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