Black Magic

[Jaslyn]

I personally dont believe this black magic but I will respect it.

I dont think its so easy to keep those child ghost by just offering them milk,toys and sweets.Must be more of it.If people just give them this can get them do everything and anything,everyone can be rich liao....

[cyclop]

If u belif it's true, it's true. If you dun belif in it, it's not true. It depends veri much on culture. The best is to have notin 2 do wif it - be it true or not.

DUN PLAY PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AquaRa]

voodoo is voodoo. Black magic is black magic. Black magic is different from white magic as black magic is used for self-beneficial purposes and to gain power over the rest or destory the rest. He or she who practises black magic is to have made a pact with the Devil. White magic is concerned with expanding consciousness and improving the common good.

voodoo is considered 'dark' because of the way they practise it. and probably because europeans see the way africans practise it as barbaric and primitive.

refer to http://www.swagga.com/voodoo.htm

little ghosts are just a small part of chinese traditions. I believe they are not related.

Voodoo is from africa, shamanism is from americas.

[Lester]

btw just asking ...i thought black magic is prastice inthe night and white magic is in the day ???

[cyclop]

Look at my Avatar carefully and u'll see something!!!!! It's not magic but ur eyes playing tricks. Many things that we "see" or "feel" maybe b'cos our minds r playing tricks, or maybe ESP. Our MIND is vely powerful,you know.

Many "New Age' ppl belif in white magic can good, then black magic can also work to do bad things. Do good get good, do bad get bad - that evryone knows

[blueheaven]

Yes, I do agree.

I have been trying to control my subconscious mind for the past few years.

It is powerful and this untapped energy is why some people succed and some don't.

Its a little bit off topic but I'll share this:

Imagine a person who works as a waiter in a coffeeshop. He says he can never achieve anything as he has no education, and that he can only serve coffee.

For this type of person, he will never achieve as while he constantly tells himself that he is a failure, his subconscious mind accepts this belief and in whatever he does other than serving coffee, he will fail.

But did you notice that he only believes that he can only serve coffee and will do the job pretty well, like the PM said "Everyone gets the drinks they ordered". It is because of the fact that his subconscious mind also accepts that he will succeed in serving coffee and it will show in his actions.

Thus, the power of the subconscious mind is not to be underestimated.

Why can some people can become billionaires from scratch? It is not that they have special natural gifts but that they believe that they can do it and the subconscious mind accepts this belief and he will do it.

Therefore, coming back to the topic, other forms of ghostly encounters and all are all works of the sunconscious mind. But the incidents about toyols are still out of the picture

[cyclop]

Since Blueheaven tok abt the sub-conscious mind, I wld like to share a little more abt it also................... only 1 time ok?????? Sory!!!!! :off

Sory I can't change the "words" cos doing so will change the idea of the whole idea of what I want to say. :

Nothing that man’s brain has invented can compare with the brain itself. If man were to build a computer to do the work of one human brain, the computer would have to be as enormous as the Empire State Building and a lot more complicated. When we consider the size of the human brain, it is amazing to realise that this one organ accounts for the activities of the voluntary and involuntary systems of the body as well as consciousness, thought, perception and creativity.

The specialised compartments of the brain each has a particular job to do in servicing the body and the thinking processes of the mind. They not only govern the involuntary internal organs, such as those that make up the digestive, circulatory, reproductive and respiratory systems; they also direct every single physical motion, down to the flicker of an eyelash. In addition, every automatic habit and personal idiosyncrasy originates there.

Since man first developed his ability to question, he has searched in awe for the answer to the mysteries which surround him. Man has used his intelligence to project far out into his environment, to the point where he can study even faraway galaxies. Yet the greatest of all mysteries is not in outer space but in the inner space of our skulls. Inside the bony cave of the human head lies the real riddle of the universe, where about a trillion brain cells together weighing only about 3 lbs, control memory, imagination, communication, health and happiness.

[Achilles Tang]

When I once hung out at Thumper, I met this Indonesian Chinese guy, (friend of another friend) who was a pretty cool laid back guy, always with hot chicks around him.

We were talking about black magic and he told us that he believes in it.

Towards the end of the conversation, he said he'll show us something.

He pulled out this 3 black hairs, sealed in a plastic bag, out of his wallet. It was supposedly the hairs of a djin (genie). He asked for a tea saucer plate, put some water in it and then placed the hairs in the water. They were black, thick, about 2 cm long.

When he placed them in the water, they started wriggling before my very eyes!! As in like curling, moving about, straightening and curling again... one of the hairs stopped.... while the rest continued... and then it resumed activity again. One of them was extra vigourous and he said that the genie was not happy about something.

Regardless to say, it was freaky. He says they were for protection.

He also revealed that his necklace with a pendant around his neck was special. He says he cannot show us because it is blessed with a Tiger spirit, a family heirloom. Also for protection.

He says when he shows it to anyone who threatens him physically, they will go mad and run away from him because he will appear to become a real tiger before their eyes.

Bullshit? I don't know. He is a rich man and whatever he wants to do, its his business.

I do know that in Indonesia, these things are very common.

[AquaRa]

gee...this is getting interesting...

[Justiana Er]

If u belif it's true, it's true. If you dun belif in it, it's not true. It depends veri much on culture. The best is to have notin 2 do wif it - be it true or not.

DUN PLAY PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

i agree... dun play play....

[Justiana Er]

btw just asking ...i thought black magic is prastice inthe night and white magic is in the day ???

[Justiana Er]

voodoo is voodoo. Black magic is black magic. Black magic is different from white magic as black magic is used for self-beneficial purposes and to gain power over the rest or destory the rest. He or she who practises black magic is to have made a pact with the Devil. White magic is concerned with expanding consciousness and improving the common good.

voodoo is considered 'dark' because of the way they practise it. and probably because europeans see the way africans practise it as barbaric and primitive.

refer to http://www.swagga.com/voodoo.htm

little ghosts are just a small part of chinese traditions. I believe they are not related.

Voodoo is from africa, shamanism is from americas.

getting abit confused....

[Justiana Er]

gee...this is getting interesting...

Of course....interesting... U 1 2 know more or u hve got somting 2 share?

[flying carpet]

My girlfriend have this sickness whereby she will become weak speaks nonsense and don't want to eat anything and throw tantrums. It happen once every year the last one was on May.

Consult a few people to help but no use the year after it will happen again. Dun know what's happening or what went wrong. Recently consulted my religious teacher for help. He gave me a few remedies and told me to wait for next year to see if she is cured.

I got stunt and told him I can't handle anymore relapse and ask him why is this happening? He told me pray hard as he is confident that what he gave me was a cure and no further relapse will happen.

He told me that what my girlfriend is suffering from is normal as he has seen worst. There is something inside her in order to get rid of it you have to ensure that she takes all the remedies.

I guess that I have to wait till next year to find out more. Till then I'm praying hard and crossing my finger and toes.

[AREA51]

My girlfriend have this sickness whereby she will become weak speaks nonsense and don't want to eat anything and throw tantrums. It happen once every year the last one was on May.

Consult a few people to help but no use the year after it will happen again. Dun know what's happening or what went wrong. Recently consulted my religious teacher for help. He gave me a few remedies and told me to wait for next year to see if she is cured.

I got stunt and told him I can't handle anymore relapse and ask him why is this happening? He told me pray hard as he is confident that what he gave me was a cure and no further relapse will happen.

He told me that what my girlfriend is suffering from is normal as he has seen worst. There is something inside her in order to get rid of it you have to ensure that she takes all the remedies.

I guess that I have to wait till next year to find out more. Till then I'm praying hard and crossing my finger and toes.

so wad exactly was it?

[ReeF_LoVeR]

hmmm dunno if this is black magic.. but i believe in small children ghost that pple keep to do things... i myself have seen it in one of my friend house who worhship them like god. the idol is something like the fortune cat but instead of a cat is a little baby child,, eriee.... but true...

he bought this remote toy car for "him" place in the battery and put the remote controller in fornt of the idol... the car start moving on it own and bang onto my toes a few time... tell you man.. my hairs all stand...

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It a child god from Thailand call"KUM MUN TONG"

Son of "KUM PEH" another god from Thailand.

If i'm not wrong.

[Justiana Er]

It a child god from Thailand call"KUM MUN TONG"

Son of "KUM PEH" another god from Thailand.

If i'm not wrong.

Y u know?

[ReeF_LoVeR]

Y u know?

Friend that know this kind of stuff.

[Justiana Er]

[ReeF_LoVeR]

Friend that know this kind of stuff.

cut & paste from somewhere.

sorry don't ask me where.

Kumantong is actually a spirit, once you bring it home, you are consider the owner, of course you must feed them regularly and in return they will listen to you.

Don't ask them to do bad things, if you do, they will become very bad spirit, you will have a hard time controlling them.

Be mentally prepared at night they will come out and play with toys you bought for him.

Take a new kumantong if possible.

Treat it nice and it will attached to you very closely, will protect you if someone else "kachow" you.

someone have reported seeing their own kumantong in their own dreams

[Justiana Er]

okay, got a clear pic now.

Will u help me 2 ....

no lah jus kidding

[blueheaven]

All this is getting more and more interesting

Love to know more about the child spirit

Heard that they are actually stillborn foetus

[fishtalk1517]

All this is getting more and more interesting

Love to know more about the child spirit

Heard that they are actually stillborn foetus 

heard something like wat u said too.... From wat I heard, the stillborn foetus died before it could see the world. There, the spirits or its souls were left wondering around. Some who practises black magic got to trap these wonderless souls and thus becomes child spirits..... If not wrong, these child spirits are stored in small perculiar containers or little coffins

Think many have heard abt toys moving by itself which was played by these spirits and some have even seem it too. One of my friend actually seem it with his own eyes and after which, abruptly left the hse.

[Siaokia]

The thai Guman Thongs are usually kept to protect..but there is also another type commonly known as toyol or gui kia...

Toyols are usually kept to help the masters steal money.

Frankly, toyols are actually quite common in singapore...they dun usually make themselves seen by others. Characteristics are green and small..Their job is mainky to steal money from people`s houses....

They are unborn feotuses and i thin they have to be fed with blood.

I heard that Toyols can be caught by putting marbles, green peas or anything round and small under the bed...next morning, the toyol will be under the bed playing with it as they get distracted from their tasks. So i think jus take a blanket..catch it and throw it out to sea...

On the other hand, Thai Guman Thongs are also very common..usually at pasar malam there will be this guy who sets up a booth to do magic tricks with his guman thongs..its displayed openly...little jars can be found on the table and i presume inside lieas the guman thong...

[Jaslyn]

I m not racist to mention this but one of my sis's maid from indonesia was trying to do something funny but before she had the chance to do it.We caught her first.

The letter comes with a packet of yellow powder.We were not able to read what was in the letter as it was in jawanese language.We showed the letter to another maid as well as the agent and it was translated into 'add the powder to the infant you are taking care of,he will only be close to you and wouldnt want the parent so the employer cant live without you'.

scary.....

I m not sure how people keep tose gui kia but my cousin is always buying fresh milk,sweets and stuff like that to offer to something he is praying...My mom says that was something from thailand but after reading this thread....I think I kinda know what that is..