why people give up reefing?

[weileong]

Any thoughts?

[alanseah]

1.cause keep changing method....

2.no real knowledge behind reefing...

3.monkey see monkey do...

4.kids playing with reefing....

5.got too much money to spare so see ppls play also play lor...

6.due to nemo heat...

7.enjoy killing the reef....

[weileong]

1.cause keep changing method....

See other pple using this method and getting good results then follow, by follow "1/2 standard" end up failure, switch to another method and also follow "1/2 standard" end up every method tried but still sucks results and finally gave up totally.

2.no real knowledge behind reefing...

Same as point 1. No real knowledge end up just follow blindly leading to sucks results.

3.monkey see monkey do...

Same as Point 2

4.kids playing with reefing....

"kids" lar.....

5.got too much money to spare so see ppls play also play lor...

See point 3

6.due to nemo heat...

nemo heat can last so long meh?

7.enjoy killing the reef....

See point 5

[Lester]

wife not happy to see husband spenting more time and money on marine then to her..

[weileong]

wife not happy to see husband spenting more time and money on marine then to her..

this is under poor planning.

[Bandit]

underestimate the amount of work/dedication involved, and go back to goldfish

[ervine]

figured out that they prefer freshwater tanks to marine ones?

[weileong]

expect SPS to color up "overnight" but never, so keep switching secondary method but end up all CMI so finally give up cos keeping sps "too delicated"

[Kurt Cobain]

becoz of heavy electrical bills.....

MH + chiller = every month

[weileong]

becoz of heavy electrical bills.....

MH + chiller = every month

poor planning

[alanseah]

expect sps to color fast... and no idea sps take months to see result.. some even yrs....

and keep adding more lights... cause thinking more light = color sps...

[ervine]

ran out of savings, gf left coz no money, dog died coz no money to buy food, quit job to feed anthias 5 times a day?

[alanseah]

ran out of savings, gf left coz no money, dog died coz no money to buy food, quit job to feed anthias 5 times a day?

another poor planning..

if know like that then why start reefing...

seem like all give up reefing due to $$$$$$

[weileong]

Oh another point, when they hurry into it, never cycle the tank problem, anyhow buy LS never quarantine and then tried many fishes/corals and keep dying and finally gave up.

[Kurt Cobain]

Oh another point, when they hurry into it, never cycle the tank problem, anyhow buy LS never quarantine and then tried many fishes/corals and keep dying and finally gave up.

poor planning again...

[acidjazz]

another poor planning..

if know like that then why start reefing...

seem like all give up reefing due to $$$$$$

Best don't start reefing unless got plans to set aside extra cash for it. Its disgusting when new reefers come to pasam malam and expect to dig gold. i.e Brand new tunze 6060 cost $175, new reefer offer $50 ask u interested to sell not. .

[weileong]

Best don't start reefing unless got plans to set aside extra cash for it. Its disgusting when new reefers come to pasam malam and expect to dig gold. i.e Brand new tunze 6060 cost $175, new reefer offer $50 ask u interested to sell not. . 

Ask them to go fly kite....

I few kanna from me before liao

Selling something for $70, they offer "best price" $20, I rather throw away Then come back offer $40 but sorry lah, kanna blacklisted liao.

[acidjazz]

Ask them to go fly kite....

I few kanna from me before liao

Selling something for $70, they offer "best price" $20, I rather throw away Then come back offer $40 but sorry lah, kanna blacklisted liao.

Now i understand why some reefers like nicky got so frustrated. . some people like to try their luck. Usually pasam malam, reefers are already quite generous sell things half price. . than new reefers offer half of the half price some more. . lagi best!!

[weileong]

Now i understand why some reefers like nicky got so frustrated. . some people like to try their luck. Usually pasam malam, reefers are already quite generous sell things half price. . than new reefers offer half of the half price some more. . lagi best!!

okie lar no hard feelings, it's sellers and buyers willing no once deal confirm case closed lor.

Don't drift from the main topic why pple give up reefing

[riot]

I think newbies give up on the hobby mainly due to lack of success. They are unsuccessful as they are either fed the incorrect information, or lulled into a herd mentality where difficult hard core corals/ fish are the way to go. They also tend to follow trends, in equipment and methodologies, often following whispered advice from other reefers on line. When they fall, they burn much time and money, then become disillusioned and quit.

I am not saying that the newbie is not at fault. But understand that they are very new, they look to others on the board for information. There is a tremendous pool of information here, some of which might not be entirely useful to beginners or pegged to their level. These guys go in, absorb the wrong stuff, aspire to take on challenging live stock in a barely cycled tank.

Even for seniors, reefing is a difficult and challenging task. If its easy, most would have switched to Luo Hans long ago. Even AT had to face the daunting task of resurrecting his wiped out tank a few times. How many of the beginners would have the determination to start all over again?

I dont know- its a difficult hobby.

[Kurt Cobain]

I think newbies give up on the hobby mainly due to lack of success. They are unsuccessful as they are either fed the incorrect information, or lulled into a herd mentality where difficult hard core corals/ fish are the way to go. They also tend to follow trends, in equipment and methodologies, often following whispered advice from other reefers on line. When they fall, they burn much time and money, then become disillusioned and quit.

I am not saying that the newbie is not at fault. But understand that they are very new, they look to others on the board for information. There is a tremendous pool of information here, some of which might not be entirely useful to beginners or pegged to their level. These guys go in, absorb the wrong stuff, aspire to take on challenging live stock in a barely cycled tank.

Even for seniors, reefing is a difficult and challenging task. If its easy, most would have switched to Luo Hans long ago. Even AT had to face the daunting task of resurrecting his wiped out tank a few times. How many of the beginners would have the determination to start all over again?

I dont know- its a difficult hobby.

..bro riot...a very good detailed comment.....1000 post liao!!!!!!!!!

[riot]

Hey hey, whaddya know.... 1000 posts of absolute trash.

[hotlemond]

I dont know- its a difficult hobby.

it sure is mann....

sometimes i have to rush back home after work to feed them, then immediately rush out to my evening appointment.

I dun know if i was paranoid, but i realised that having fixed and consistence schedule for husbandry, feeding, helps to keep them in better shape.

[Achilles Tang]

I agree... its a financially challenging hobby. One where Murphy's Law pays special attention to.

It can be a fragile ecosystem that a power trip or inadequate equipment or inappropriate setup may cause its demise. A fully backed-up marine system with redundancy measures is not cheap.

I have noted that parasitic episodes have been on the rise globally.

It is the cause of endless personal frustration where there is a lack of natural biological controls. Having tank crashes or coral wipeouts due to plagues of parasites are more demoralizing because it happens right before your eyes and not easily detected as they grow to critical mass.

I don't have the space to setup a quarantine facility for corals (seperate lights, skimmers, chiller, water circulation, calcium reactors etc) and I think most reefers don't either.

I don't honestly know if I will be in the hobby a decade from now.... can you?

IMO, this hobby may have more financial pressures than others... and touch wood, when my priorities change, something must be sacrificed.... "goodbye darling... heee heee.... "

[lightningstrike]

"goodbye darling... heee heee.... "

....... and which beloved darling might that be??? reef tank? harry? wifey?