SRC Member Reefbum Posted April 26, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted April 26, 2005 Used to add trace elements but quit after reading from somewhere that water changes is a safer option to replenish those elements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowgivemilk Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 i was told that water change with a little of dosing of here and there is the best way.. LS in tank will not be like living in a sewage..IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member shoelevy Posted April 26, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted April 26, 2005 so how about my question on water changing regimes? anyone got advice on what i input in the previous post? don't tell me change 10% everyweek hor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Reefbum Posted April 26, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted April 26, 2005 Me changing 20% every week without fail.Thats coz I don't run my skimmer liao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidjazz Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Me changing 20% every week without fail.Thats coz I don't run my skimmer liao. that's risky! Quote 300 Gallon Reef Paradise 6X2.5X2.5 FT Tank : 4x2x2 ft sump : 2x1x2 ft refugim Skimmer: Deltec AP851 Calcium Reactor: Lightings: Aqualight T5 Retrofit, 150 watt MH X2 Chiller: Hailea HC-500A model w/ Aquabee 2000 Ozonizer: Hailea HLO-300 Digital ozonizer Wavemaker: Tunze 6080, Tunze 6060 Return Pumps: Aquabee 5000 x2 Other equipments: Aquabee 2000, Quietone 1200, 5L Co2 Cylinder w/ Dupla regulator American Marine Wireless Thermometer Reefing is a dedication, not a competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member scarab Posted April 26, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted April 26, 2005 I'm changing 5% everyweek and I find that it is good enough. I have a 100 gallon tank so 5 gallon water change every week using the red pail. Stop the skimmer and let the excess water flow into the sump and just suck from the sump or the main tank. I don't switch off any of my return pumps, so no problem with forgetting to on chiller later. Clean the skimmer cup and off we go. However reefers with bigger tanks or very small sump will have problem doing it this way. You will have no choice but to switch of your pumps. If you change 5% only, you must be hardworking and change every week in order for the water change to be effective. Cannot skive. Run a good skimmer, suitable in comparison with your livestock. You don't have to overkill your skimmer if your LS do not need such low nutrient water. I feel that water change is more for replenishing the trace elements on top of reducing NO3, PO4 etc. I have undetectable NO3 and PO4 but still do weekly water change to replenish the trace elements. Major elements such as Ca, Mg and Alk need weekly monitoring, sometimes water change not enough to replenish them so dosing or a well tuned CR is required. Also suggest test your major elements weekly. Use RO/DI or distilled water for water change so as not to introduce unwanted components into your tank. Untreated tap water can be troublesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Reefbum Posted April 26, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted April 26, 2005 that's risky! Thats why I keeping minimum LS.Intend to upgrade my tank soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member shoelevy Posted April 26, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted April 26, 2005 I'm changing 5% everyweek and I find that it is good enough. I have a 100 gallon tank so 5 gallon water change every week using the red pail. Stop the skimmer and let the excess water flow into the sump and just suck from the sump or the main tank. I don't switch off any of my return pumps, so no problem with forgetting to on chiller later. Clean the skimmer cup and off we go. However reefers with bigger tanks or very small sump will have problem doing it this way. You will have no choice but to switch of your pumps. If you change 5% only, you must be hardworking and change every week in order for the water change to be effective. Cannot skive. Run a good skimmer, suitable in comparison with your livestock. You don't have to overkill your skimmer if your LS do not need such low nutrient water. I feel that water change is more for replenishing the trace elements on top of reducing NO3, PO4 etc. I have undetectable NO3 and PO4 but still do weekly water change to replenish the trace elements. Major elements such as Ca, Mg and Alk need weekly monitoring, sometimes water change not enough to replenish them so dosing or a well tuned CR is required. Also suggest test your major elements weekly. Use RO/DI or distilled water for water change so as not to introduce unwanted components into your tank. Untreated tap water can be troublesome. thanks scarab for your input thanks VERY VERY much! i will take this advice well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member regal angel Posted April 27, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted April 27, 2005 Looking at the poll result, shock me man! Now then I realized Singaporean is so united. One people, One nation, One Singapore! pai seh, I voted for US brand "guilty lei" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member jem Posted May 27, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted May 27, 2005 hm..i have this bottle of Seachem..don't know if its the correct trace element lei...it states there flourish trace:trace elements for the planted aquarium...me last time use it to keep freshwater plants..can it be used too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Pointer Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 Hi I am new here, had been using kent and it seems no much result. Also do a 10% water change bi-weekly. I am using fan and water evaporation is high so top up about 4 litres a day. My tank is 4x2x2.5, 150g, and top up with RO water, even i do a 10% weekly, RO water does not contain minerals. So what is the best advise? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member scarab Posted May 27, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted May 27, 2005 Hi I am new here, had been using kent and it seems no much result. Also do a 10% water change bi-weekly. I am using fan and water evaporation is high so top up about 4 litres a day. My tank is 4x2x2.5, 150g, and top up with RO water, even i do a 10% weekly, RO water does not contain minerals. So what is the best advise? Cheers Firstly, consider using a chiller to keep your temperature more stable. You tank not small so to maintain temp using fan will have very high evaporation rate. Secondly, the trace elements come from your salt not from your RO water. So when you do water change the replenishing of trace elements is due to your salt you mix into the water you change. Topping up water with RO has no trace elements, purely water (H2O), nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Pointer Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 Just bought a beckett skimmer and FR, now no budget to buy chiller. The electric bill will make my wife Since topping with RO, have to add trace element weekly. If change water bi-weekly about 10% can I stop dosing. Taking in consideration of using RO daily cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member scarab Posted May 28, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted May 28, 2005 Just bought a beckett skimmer and FR, now no budget to buy chiller. The electric bill will make my wife Since topping with RO, have to add trace element weekly. If change water bi-weekly about 10% can I stop dosing. Taking in consideration of using RO daily cheers Bro, don't understand your 'have to add trace element weekly' . How do you know you have to add? You test for trace elements? You top up water to cater for evaporation. Depletion of trace elements depend on your coral take up. Both of these are totally not connected. Your water evaporate, doesn't mean your trace elements also evaporate bro. Really suggest you don't dose anymore trace elements as since you can't test for it, you won't know how much is enough. Your weekly 10% water change should take care of the trace elements replenishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Pointer Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 I will stop adding trace element immediately. Tks scarab for your timely adviced. 1 question to ask, if I change water weekly or the most bi-weekly on 10%, will the corals had enough elements? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member scarab Posted May 28, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted May 28, 2005 I will stop adding trace element immediately. Tks scarab for your timely adviced. 1 question to ask, if I change water weekly or the most bi-weekly on 10%, will the corals had enough elements? Cheers Suggest you pay more attention to the major elements like Calcium and Alkalinity (kH) and maybe Magnesium. Don't worry too much about trace elements. You know what are the levels of Ca and Alk to keep, right? 10% water change very good already, even fornightly. I know a lot of reefers don't even change water for months.... ........ but to each his own. Everyone have their own prefered reefing method when it comes to water change.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Pointer Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 Will monitor the major elements, calcium at 400. Will check on alk and mag. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SRC Member chrislzh Posted August 17, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted August 17, 2006 sorry newbie here.. can pm me what is RO/DI or distilled water. water left overnight is called what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jervismun Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 sorry newbie here.. can pm me what is RO/DI or distilled water. water left overnight is called what? PMed you Quote Tank 60x40x40 Optiwhite Glass Tank Sump Elos 500 w/ Tunze Overflow Protein Skimmer Skimz Kone SK1 Return Pump Hydor Seltz L30 Wavemaker Hydor K1 Illumination 150W + 2 T5 Chiller Arctica 1/5hp w/ Aquabee 1000 Water Top-up Tunze Osmolator Dosing Pumps Grotech 3-Channels Calcium Reactor Deltec PF 501 Computer Aquatronica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SRC Member tagie_tag Posted May 30, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted May 30, 2009 this picture bro. where can buy those vit. i looking for it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member LaW Posted May 30, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted May 30, 2009 bro. where can buy those vit. i looking for it ? you can try petmart. i used to buy those from them until i switch to selcon and kent's zoe from RD. the 2 forms a great team. Quote If a man could beat his own fantasy. Then to only breed in captivity. Then its pointless. Genesis 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that has life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. And God created great whales, and every living creature that moves, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. And the evening and the morning were the fifth day. || Tank: 78" x 30" x 30" || Sump: 48" x 22" x 20" || Lights: PowerModule 10 X 80W|| Returns: 2 x HF32 || || Skimmer: BubbleKing Supermarin 300 || Wavemaker: 3 x 6100 & 1 x 6200, 2 x Wavebox 6212, WavySea || || FR: 2 x FR150 || NR: Sulphur Denitrator || CR: RM Custom Made 8" || KR: Deltec KM500 || TopUp: Tunze Osmolator 3155 || || UV: Coralife 12X 36W || Ozonizer: Sanders C200|| Controller: GHL Profilux Plus II Ex || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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