Cloudly Tank Overnight.Wat Could Be The Problem?

[Lester]

hi ...

i need help ,advise and comments ..

i was shocked to see my tank cloudly this morning before i leave my house for camp.. everything was ok last night.. was watching SCV channel till 3 am in the morning and took a look before i went to sleep. water was still crystal clear .. everything was fine .. haven conduct any test yet ,no death yet from i see... cos was late for camp, there fore just left it running..

would like the ask the expert here ... wat could be the problem of the water suddenly becoming cloudy?? Spike??

did dose some liquid calcuim (10ml) in the evening ( not veri much right for a 3X2X2.5 plus a 2.5 sump).... and change of my coral chip to bio balls in my sump on sunday.. could this have cause it ?? but monday and tue the water was still crystal clear til this morning before i went to sleep..

wat can i also look out for . ??or do.????. cause i never encounter such happening before in my tank..???

alot ..

p/s: now using camp internet .. shhhh... dun let anyone know k ..

cheers

[tineng]

wat do you have in your tank??? i had these problem before....once was becuase an anamone got suck into a powerhead and the other time because my clams start spawning....both time my fishes escape unhurt....

[hotlemond]

i suspect its the calcium carbonate precipitation thats causing the cloudiness. have you check your carbonate hardness (alkalinity)? if low on the scale just add marine buffer to raise it up and your calcium level will come down to normal.

[Clownfish]

saw anythin spawned?

[ervine]

U have macro algae in the tank? possible macro algae crash?

[Lester]

wat do you have in your tank??? i had these problem before....once was becuase an anamone got suck into a powerhead and the other time because my clams start spawning....both time my fishes escape unhurt....

hi bro ...

current stock in my tank ...

1 x cleaner shrimp

3 x false clown fish (2cm)

3 x chromis (2cm)

2 x electric blue hermit

2 x turbo snails

1 x anamone ( was still fine this mornign i think but will check again )

1 x finger leather coral

4 x mini bubble ( 5 ~ 6 mm each)

3 x col zooz

1 x gaint mushroom ( size around 17 cm dia each, got 2)

2 x hammer coral

2 x brown octops coral

plus small some crabs from the rocks i dunno how many ..

hmmm that all... am i over stock ??? tank started at 19 aug 2004 til now ..

LR around 100 kg.. tank size is 3 x2 x 2.5 plus 2.5 x 2 x 18" sump.. have skimmer and chiller running...i going real slow on addind of live stock.. indenting to do water change this weekend.. bought salt liao also.. so sad when i saw it cloudly..

am i in deep trouble .. will it crush???

cheers

[Lester]

i suspect its the calcium carbonate precipitation thats causing the cloudiness. have you check your carbonate hardness (alkalinity)? if low on the scale just add marine buffer to raise it up and your calcium level will come down to normal.

hi bro ...

sorry .. but wat is calcium carbonate precipitation ??? i haven conduct any test yet cos was late for camp this morning.. therefore just left it alone and went to camp...

is it dangerous ??? if this is the case.. i just increase dKH can liao ??? my ca will go down and the water will become clear ..?? do i need to check my mg first ??? in order to get the right dkh.. then attend to my ca ???

sorry for so many question .. was reali worried ..

by the way if i leave it alone will it go away ???

cheers

[Lester]

U have macro algae in the tank? possible macro algae crash?

hi ..

nope i dun not keep any macro aglae .. was intending too.. but haven started yet ... cos haven found suitable light yet to fit my sump ..

hmm ..... wat could be the problem .. ???

cheers

[Lester]

saw anythin spawned?

hi bro ...

nope .. dun think so ... but i also not sure ... i dun have clam ... will coral spwan and make the water cloudly ???

cheers

[ozy]

If it is milky, may be bacteria boom.

If it is chalky, may be precipitation.

[hotlemond]

attend to your Mg and dKH first then Ca may be sorted out on its own.

[houndster]

My tank also same problem and found out that my LR started to die off got the foul smell.. does this happen to anyone?

[acidjazz]

les. . you don't happen to have any sea cucumbers right?

[Lester]

les. . you don't happen to have any sea cucumbers right?

hi bro ...

nope dun like them hehe

[Lester]

hi ....

just back from LFS and bought the Ca and KH test kit .. could not find the mg one.. can someone recommend one? (or borrow me for one test )

ok the reading from the test were

NO2 ~ 0mg/L

KH ~ 9 dKH

Ca ~ 430 ppm

ph ~ 8.1

mg ~ dunno cos no test kit.

Tank was still abit cloudly... did calcium carbonate precipitation happen? or is it because i took out the coral chips and replcae it will bio balls on sunday that causes causes a annimoa spike ?? but my reading of N02 is 0 mg/L.. it giving me a headache... wat could be the cause??

Will water changes helps to clear the water ??

cheers

alot for thoses that gave me thoses valueable advise and comments.. reali app.. thanks again

[ervine]

oh u replaced coral chips with bioballs ah? Hm... you might have distupted the filtration system a little by doing that.. making it go thru a mini "new-tank" syndrome...

Are your corals and fishes doing okay? ur water parameters look okay to me

[Lester]

oh u replaced coral chips with bioballs ah? Hm... you might have distupted the filtration system a little by doing that.. making it go thru a mini "new-tank" syndrome...

Are your corals and fishes doing okay? ur water parameters look okay to me

hi ...

yap i change the coral chips to bio balls .. i see ... mini new tank sy... i thought i went thru the cycling stage .but my N02 is 0.. is it amm spike ???.. do u know how long it iwill take before the water clear up ?? corals and fishes are doing well...but not the anmoane... will take it out later ..

was planing to doing a water change this weekend.. u think now still advisable to change water ???

alot

cheers

[ervine]

HMmmm... i donno man.. usually i would just leave it and wait it out.. since the corals and all still look okay...

changing the water might introduce even more shock....

my suggestion is if you notice any adverse effects then change the water immediately.. if not then just wait and see...

In any case, i think it's better not to have the bioballs even... nothing that will become a nitrate factory after a while...

[Lester]

HMmmm... i donno man.. usually i would just leave it and wait it out.. since the corals and all still look okay...

changing the water might introduce even more shock....

my suggestion is if you notice any adverse effects then change the water immediately.. if not then just wait and see...

In any case, i think it's better not to have the bioballs even... nothing that will become a nitrate factory after a while...

hmmm .......... guess got to change to LR ... is it the best choice that will not build up nitrate ???

cheers

[ervine]

hmmm .......... guess got to change to LR ... is it the best choice that will not build up nitrate ???

cheers

Huh change to LR? no man... actually there should be nothing in the sump that can possibly trap deitrus over a long period of time...

For me it's down pipe straight to sump where the first line of defence is the skimmer, then I use a small piece of filter wool which I change frequently just to trap anything that got pass the skimmer, then it's refugium and back to the tank liao...

But there are different schools of thought about this.. some people pack their sump with bioballs and filter wool, some have nothing... so it's really up to you I guess...

I used to have coral chips and bioballs too.. then I swapped over to having nothing at all except the skimmer and fuge...

[Lester]

Huh change to LR? no man... actually there should be nothing in the sump that can possibly trap deitrus over a long period of time...

For me it's down pipe straight to sump where the first line of defence is the skimmer, then I use a small piece of filter wool which I change frequently just to trap anything that got pass the skimmer, then it's refugium and back to the tank liao...

But there are different schools of thought about this.. some people pack their sump with bioballs and filter wool, some have nothing... so it's really up to you I guess...

I used to have coral chips and bioballs too.. then I swapped over to having nothing at all except the skimmer and fuge...

hi bro ..

. i got..it.: . i mean i knw wat u mean.. that means i must have a veri strong or power skimmer for this design .. k.. will research on it for my next tank upgrade..

alot bro .. hhmmmm back to my current tank.. hope it will clear up in a few days time.. will continue to monitor and update..

Cheers:D

[firestream]

Huh change to LR? no man... actually there should be nothing in the sump that can possibly trap deitrus over a long period of time...

For me it's down pipe straight to sump where the first line of defence is the skimmer, then I use a small piece of filter wool which I change frequently just to trap anything that got pass the skimmer, then it's refugium and back to the tank liao...

But there are different schools of thought about this.. some people pack their sump with bioballs and filter wool, some have nothing... so it's really up to you I guess...

I used to have coral chips and bioballs too.. then I swapped over to having nothing at all except the skimmer and fuge...

agree ! You just need regular cleaning for the bioball & coral chips if you intend to keep it.

[Lester]

hi guys ...

Latest update... my water is back to crystal clear.... HAHA so happy ... will monitor til sat.. if everything was ok.. will perform water change,,,

for all the advises, comments and help guys .. u guys are the best

cheers

[wil_lee76]

ya, i do exp these when i rescape my tank...after changing water...removing all coral chips....etc etc...the water become cloudy. it takes about 3 -4 days for it be clear...any stcoks die? nope....So as some reefers mentioned, must take note of the adverse effects on LFS and Corals....and of coz, checked your water para during these process.....anyway good that it clear!!!

[mabro]

sorry to ask ... what is it due to ????.. how did u solve the problem ..