Help! Plate dying.

[lazybones]

Hi All... Need help.

My green bubble anemone plate recently was pushed by snail

accidently and it fell from a LR down to the sand.

The next day when I discover it and put it back, think it was

too late as 1 part of it "melted".

I tried to gave it as much attention these few days and the rest

of the tentacles have started to extend back. But the "mouth" has

been opened wide ever since. I tried feeding small pieces of shrimp

which I do every alternate days. It just doesnt eat anymore.

And the part that melted doesnt seem to grow back.

I was just wondering if there is any way which I could save my poor

plate? Will the "melted" parts grow back?

Thank you very much.

[prec]

a pic will help much...

[lazybones]

Just tried to take a pict. Hope its clear enuf.

The length of the tentacles used to be 2 to 3 times longer.

(Anyway to "repair" it? )

Edited March 19, 2005 by lazybones

[weishun]

I would advise you to place the plate coral on the sand bed. Cos in my experiences these plates sometimes will move. Anyway they are sandbed corals. So its safer to place them on the sandbed.

[giantbicycle]

it seems like recedding.....anw, gd lucki

[LaW]

those rocks are not LR right?

so red.

anyway hope ur plate recovers

good luck

[Venezia]

dun feed it anmore. it will not eat. add 1- 2 drops of iodine daily and dun move it also, add stress only. and den pray tt it recover... mine did. its mouth also was open.

[lazybones]

I have 1 LR above this one and 1 LR below.

Was told that shud put my dead rock between.

I was told by the store owner that they dun like sand.

hmmm...

So far It was doing well until being pushed down by the silly snail.

Iodine? Thanx Venezia. Will go and get a bottle tom and try.

Thank you very much.

Will try to update with picture if it recovers. Thank you!

[prec]

yea add iodine and place it on the sandbed where its safe and calm.. dont stress it any further.. try to keep ur water quality in tip top cond.

[Gouldian]

I have 1 LR above this one and 1 LR below.

Was told that shud put my dead rock between.

I was told by the store owner that they dun like sand.

hmmm...

So far It was doing well until being pushed down by the silly snail.

Iodine? Thanx Venezia. Will go and get a bottle tom and try.

Thank you very much.

Will try to update with picture if it recovers. Thank you!

Hi bro,

Weishun is right. Plate coral, Heliofungia sp. are solitary corals that exists on the seabeds.

The juvenile plate will begins its life stuck to a liverock and will break itself from the LR and end up on the substrates. All plate corals like to move about thus never place them high on LR on any surface where it can topple over and trap in corners.

When the LFS told you that they dun like sands they are 1/2 right only. Although plate corals likes to be on the subtrates, they do not like to be covered by sands. Thus if you have sand sifter gobies that constantly drop sands on your plates corals, this will cuz them to be stressed as well.

I do not know what are you water params and what are the stocking conditions as such unable to advise you properly as to what is the actual cause of your plate being stressed.

However, it would be wise for you to place them on the substrates without any disturbance in hope that they will recover soon enough.

As for your dead rocks, I dun think those are natural dead rocks from the sea (I may be wrong). Always use rocks with marine origin as rocks from the land may contain high concentration of phophates and silicates or even copper that can be deterimental to you tank in a long run.

[lazybones]

wow. thanx Gouldian.

So much useful info there.

I do have 2 cleaner shrimps and 2 sand shifters....

and 1 turbo snail.

They moved a lot and thus you could see some sand

on my rocks.

Also my strange maroon clown likes to sweep its tail very hard

at certain spots creating a "sand storm"

Dun really know what he is doing. Thus sometimes I see a

few

holes on the sandbed. Cos the maroon clown was stirring

sand at these spots.

[Gouldian]

wow. thanx Gouldian.

So much useful info there.

I do have 2 cleaner shrimps and 2 sand shifters....

and 1 turbo snail.

They moved a lot and thus you could see some sand

on my rocks.

Also my strange maroon clown likes to sweep its tail very hard

at certain spots creating a "sand storm"

Dun really know what he is doing. Thus sometimes I see a

few

holes on the sandbed. Cos the maroon clown was stirring

sand at these spots.

Hi bro,

Sand sifters are good but if they are always dropping sand on top of your plate, the plate will be gone soon.

Clowns have a habit of clearing some parts of the sands in certain areas where they lay claim, thus they will defend it. Nothing much you can do but just ensure that your plate is not near it.

Have you tested your water params? Care to share?

How's your plate now?

[Venezia]

yar, dun let your fish sweep sand onto the plate or the covered part will be gone in no time. have some circulation and dose 1 drop of iodine daily will help .. my plate has recovered but the mouth still open le. dunno y. this is the 4th time it has recovered by itself after a few incidents.

[lazybones]

Hi!

I just bought this Aquapharm Iodine and tried adding

about a few drops todae. But the bottle says to add more.

But then I guess will try a few drops everyday 1st.

Todae looking very bad. The tentacles totally closed already.

Seems like his not goin to make it.

sigh...

[Gouldian]

I believe Aquapharm is Iodide not Iodine.

Iodide dosage start from 5ml per 100l where as Iodine dosage start from 1 drop per 100l.

Thus the instruction on the label is correct.

Sorry to hear that it has deteriorated, hope that you will learn from this experience.

[prec]

so is there a difference? as in their effectiveness?

[lazybones]

Hmm... so whats the difference between iodine and iodide? (as prec asked)

Yup. Now contemplating to sell away the trochus snail.

(seems to be like a russian tank... he just moves and knock

everything in its way.... sigh)

[Gouldian]

Iodide is usually supplied as KI or potassium iodide. When dissolve in water, KI dissociates into K+ and I-. I- combines with oxygen to form IO3, and these two forms of Iodine are the most common in sea water. Up to 1/3 of the iodine can be combined with organics, and won't be measured by a test kit. Safer form of supplement but need higher dosage.

Iodine is I2 or two iodine atoms joined into a molecule. I2 has strong anti-bacterial properties because it is a strong oxidizing agent. Lugol's is a mixture of KI and I2. Stronger thus needs lesser dosage, over-dosage can cause algae bloom or even detrimental to LS.

Hope it helps to clear some doubts.

Personally I used Lugol's as I feel that it is more costs effective.

[lazybones]

Wow. Thanx Gouldian.

So much useful info there.

Hmm... So next time instead of using Lugols deep for corals

can also use my current iodide solution then.

Thanx again.

[damienkee]

ya... really great info bro...

[gavinx]

hi gouldian, if i jus use iodine instead of lugols for zoas dipping izit ok?

[RockyBoy]

hi gouldian, if i jus use iodine instead of lugols for zoas dipping izit ok?

Lugol's is iodine