weileong Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 After being very satisfied with the performance of my Deltec AP850 running on my 4ft reef tank, I decided to order it's younger brother the APF600. This is the 3rd smallest skimmer on the deltec's line of external skimmers. I received it from EAN on 18th Feb, a little lazy so only set it up today. I decided to do a review for the benefit of other reefers who might be keen in this skimmer. Specification: Heavy Stocking 750 Ltrs (167gals) Normal Stocking 1000 Ltrs (222 gals) Water Throughput: 800 Ltr./ h (178 gall/h) Dimensions: L: 280mm W: 210mm H: 600mm Bioload currently consist of 4 2-3" fishes. Quote Weileong's 4ft tank Part I Weileong's 4ft tank Part II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weileong Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 Fired up and still waiting for it to break-in. Feed pump is SICCE Extreme which was previously driving my weipro 2014 which the APF600 replaces. A ehiem in-line ball valve is used to adjust to the correct flow. Quote Weileong's 4ft tank Part I Weileong's 4ft tank Part II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weileong Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 Here's where I set the water level (see red arrow) with the needlewheel pump off. Will readjust slightly after breaking in. Air valve is set to 1 O'clock position. You can see the flange which makes cleaning the collection cup so easy, just twist and turn. No messy nuts to remove and re-tighten after that. Quote Weileong's 4ft tank Part I Weileong's 4ft tank Part II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Tigger Posted February 27, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted February 27, 2005 It uses what technology? Needle wheel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weileong Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 The APF600 runs off the AquaBee 2000/i with modified needlewheel impeller which draws 38W. As it is an out-of-sump skimmer, a separate feed pump is required. See the milky chamber caused by the high bubble density, no photographic tricks or deliberate overexposure WYSIWYG Quote Weileong's 4ft tank Part I Weileong's 4ft tank Part II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member riot Posted February 27, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted February 27, 2005 Weileong, is there a difference in bubble size and quantity between open fully and 1 o'clock for the air valve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weileong Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 Still breaking in, running for less than 1 hr but can see some slight brownish stuffs foaming Riot: can't really tell the size of the bubbles visually as the whole chamber is milky. I just tune the air valve down a little since it is still breaking in. Probably will be running it fully open once it is fully broken in. With my experience with the AP850, this APF600 is really easy to tune. Don't even need to read the instructions. Will post more comments and photos as the skimmer breaks in. Quote Weileong's 4ft tank Part I Weileong's 4ft tank Part II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member boxfish Posted February 27, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted February 27, 2005 Hi, aquabee 2000/L pump is purchase separately? overtime will coraline algae grow on the chamber? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Supporter ReDDeviLs Posted March 1, 2005 SRC Supporter Share Posted March 1, 2005 how much isit? Quote [ ] [ ] Reef Reefing Reefed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member ervine Posted March 1, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted March 1, 2005 how much isit? that's what i wanna know too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member typrobin Posted March 2, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted March 2, 2005 weileong,how come the neck not curved one huh?? Quote MY OLD 3ft!! My Latest Plan!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Clownfish Posted March 2, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted March 2, 2005 that's what i wanna know too i wanna noe too Quote My Personal Blog My Wedding Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weileong Posted March 2, 2005 Author Share Posted March 2, 2005 weileong,how come the neck not curved one huh?? The neck is curved but only on the interior side so when view externally it looks flat. The neck is fairly large when compared to the dia of the main chamber as this APF600 uses the same collection cup as the AP850.. This skimmer going for $800+ w/o installation kit. Quote Weileong's 4ft tank Part I Weileong's 4ft tank Part II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Supporter ReDDeviLs Posted March 2, 2005 SRC Supporter Share Posted March 2, 2005 wow! 800+ good price! Quote [ ] [ ] Reef Reefing Reefed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Supporter ReDDeviLs Posted March 2, 2005 SRC Supporter Share Posted March 2, 2005 ap850 cost 1.2k right? Quote [ ] [ ] Reef Reefing Reefed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member typrobin Posted March 2, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted March 2, 2005 The neck is curved but only on the interior side so when view externally it looks flat. The neck is fairly large when compared to the dia of the main chamber as this APF600 uses the same collection cup as the AP850.. This skimmer going for $800+ w/o installation kit. oic...which means deltec produces the same cup for all models?? just curious... since then i think it will look like a big head doll...hahahaha... Quote MY OLD 3ft!! My Latest Plan!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weileong Posted March 2, 2005 Author Share Posted March 2, 2005 oic...which means deltec produces the same cup for all models?? just curious...since then i think it will look like a big head doll...hahahaha... How come your questions so naive one? Just happens that APF600 and AP850 has the same collection cup. Quote Weileong's 4ft tank Part I Weileong's 4ft tank Part II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member typrobin Posted March 2, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted March 2, 2005 How come your questions so naive one? Just happens that APF600 and AP850 has the same collection cup. just curious...any prob with tat?? naive dun sound like a nice word to use on my sentence which only has less than 20words... Quote MY OLD 3ft!! My Latest Plan!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weileong Posted March 2, 2005 Author Share Posted March 2, 2005 The APF600 does have a collection cup that is larger than the main chamber diameter but certainly no big head doll Quote Weileong's 4ft tank Part I Weileong's 4ft tank Part II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member typrobin Posted March 2, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted March 2, 2005 The APF600 does have a collection cup that is larger than the main chamber diameter but certainly no big head doll thanks.. Quote MY OLD 3ft!! My Latest Plan!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boonsemarine Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 How is the skimmer performing now, must be having alot of kopi-o. My future skimmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vili_Shark Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 The APF-600 is a superb skimmer. It is much better than many of the competition that I tested. Your prices is S'pore are very good as well. 1.2K for AP-850 and 800 for APF-600 are very low prices compare to Europe and America. Must be that your importer mark up low, and you have only 3%GST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member alanseah Posted April 1, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted April 1, 2005 The APF-600 is a superb skimmer. It is much better than many of the competition that I tested. Your prices is S'pore are very good as well. 1.2K for AP-850 and 800 for APF-600 are very low prices compare to Europe and America. Must be that your importer mark up low, and you have only 3%GST. Hi, Sorry we now having 5% as GST since last yr.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vili_Shark Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 Well, still nothing like Europe that have 16-22%VAT. The mark up by European dealers is higher as well. That's why Singapore is regarded as shopping heaven by many shoppers, for clothing ,electronics etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weileong Posted April 1, 2005 Author Share Posted April 1, 2005 The APF-600 is a superb skimmer. It is much better than many of the competition that I tested. Your prices is S'pore are very good as well. 1.2K for AP-850 and 800 for APF-600 are very low prices compare to Europe and America. Must be that your importer mark up low, and you have only 3%GST. Yet got pple complain of high prices from the local dealer Quote Weileong's 4ft tank Part I Weileong's 4ft tank Part II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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