RAV-65 Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 Roidan... seems like ur idea of using 2 chillers isn't that bad... indeed, it does help to save the day in the event of a chiller konking up! Quote People do not plan to fail; Often they just fail to plan... Wat I do to prevent myself from tearing my hair out... My stress remedy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member alanseah Posted January 27, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted January 27, 2005 dun worry, nothing much to impress you one lah....u din miss much by not visiting my place i think agar agar just over 10 reefers in here or so have visited me (victor of iwarna also) , and i don't think they went home impressed anyway but yah...hope our paths cross each other one day... in the lfs maybe....and please stay behind me after you cross hor, let me pick my stuff first i mean just kidding lah me live so near you and yet.. never gatta invited by you be4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roidan Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 me live so near you and yet.. never gatta invited by you be4 that time your buddy kschew was here with gouldian & wife but that time i dunno you well yet... I think that time you were at home counting down the days to the arrival of your bbk Quote Advanced Aquarist (March05) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member scarab Posted January 27, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted January 27, 2005 okok... any other reefers in here using 2 chillers, one as main and one as backup or am i the only nutcase in here I definitely do not welcome Mr Murphy Bro you not nutcase lah. I also using 2 chillers running on 2 separate loops. I know Danano is also doing the same thing. Mr Murphy visited me before already. Chiller 1 is 1/2 hp Daeil Sun-cool (outdoor version) running on an Eheim 1262 and return direct into the tank. Chiller 2 is 1/4 hp Daeil Fish-Cooler (indoor version) running on an Eheim 1250 to and from the sump. Chiller 1 temp set at 27C, cut in at 27.4C, cut off at 26.6C If this chiller fails, my fox controller will cut off all my lights at 28C Chiller 2 temp set at 28C, will cut in at 28.4C, cut of at 27.6C I need to cut off lights if my first chiller fails as the second chiller capacity is too small to cool my tank with lights on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roidan Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 glad i have company 2 chillers 2 chillers 2 chillers anyway, u mean Mr Murphy visited you even with 2 cooling loops? the whole house circuit trip ah? then 10 loops also no use i agree... what happened ah, can share with us your experience? Quote Advanced Aquarist (March05) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weileong Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 I kanna from Mr Mr Murphy before also heng I am at home. That time the resun MD40 driving my chiller kon out at 6am and trip the whole house. UPS alarm went off and I jump out of bed. Activated my standby pump and standby pump also spoilt *pengz*, another standby pump loan out to another reefers cannot make it back in time. End up I connect my main return pump to drive the chiller then faster go HK buy iwaki pump back Quote Weileong's 4ft tank Part I Weileong's 4ft tank Part II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member scarab Posted January 27, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted January 27, 2005 Mr. Murphy visited before I did the Fox and the 2nd loop. Came home from work saw my blastos (back when I still keep blastos ) all shrunk and my montis all no polyp. Check the chiller temp readout saw temp 31.8C I quickly switch off lights then use ziplock bags filled with ice cubes and dump them into the tank. Luckily I have a ice cube making fridge. Call the chiller supplier and he came within 2 hours by that time temp has gone to below 30C. End up the cooling fan for the chiller conked so the chiller keep overheating and can't work long enough to cool. So after I did this double precaution lah. Luckily the high temp is only for a short period, if not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roidan Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 heng no major casualty for you bro.... that's why i always wonder why we can spend money on building up our reef and then never think of protecting our *investment*.... so i hope to see more reefers here protecting their investment with a double loop consider the expense of the backup loop as insurance premium lor...hehe Quote Advanced Aquarist (March05) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member minsmarine Posted January 27, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted January 27, 2005 Hmmm... I'm curious to know too... Well, it's in my experience and didn't say everyone have to follow. Just happened to be in past 2 weeks, all my SPS color up. SBS_Transit visited my tank 2 weeks ago, and he visited yesterday again, it's all what he said, everything coloring up. I was the person who believe in 27C however. It's all a lot depend on where SPS come from too. So if you want to do, do at your own risk. But I will set my chiller @ 24 since everthing look getting better. Quote Life is like a peice of Uncured Live Rock [ from LFS ], you never know what you gonna get......... Ocean Gump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member scarab Posted January 27, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted January 27, 2005 I kanna from Mr Mr Murphy before also heng I am at home. That time the resun MD40 driving my chiller kon out at 6am and trip the whole house. UPS alarm went off and I jump out of bed. Activated my standby pump and standby pump also spoilt *pengz*, another standby pump loan out to another reefers cannot make it back in time. End up I connect my main return pump to drive the chiller then faster go HK buy iwaki pump back So bro you did the 2 loop thing already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member scarab Posted January 27, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted January 27, 2005 heng no major casualty for you bro.... that's why i always wonder why we can spend money on building up our reef and then never think of protecting our *investment*.... so i hope to see more reefers here protecting their investment with a double loop consider the expense of the backup loop as insurance premium lor...hehe These words are very true. The 'insurance premium' is well worth it considering the amount we spend on stocking up with beautiful fishes and exotic corals. It only take a few hours, everything will go up in 'smoke' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weileong Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 So bro you did the 2 loop thing already? Not yet ah... that time was checking out the price for another 1/2hp artica but for some reasons never follow up. Okie okie don't flame me. Tomorrow i go check price for another artica/dailea. How's the 1/4hp one? I think I go for that too if the price is good lol. Quote Weileong's 4ft tank Part I Weileong's 4ft tank Part II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member scarab Posted January 27, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted January 27, 2005 Not yet ah... that time was checking out the price for another 1/2hp artica but for some reasons never follow up. Okie okie don't flame me. Tomorrow i go check price for another artica/dailea. How's the 1/4hp one? I think I go for that too if the price is good lol. 1/4 hp good enough for backup but must run without lights on lah. If lights on cannot bring down the temp by much and it keep on running. Have tested mine. Price I think standard lah. Should combine with the Fox Controller to kill the lights. Safer like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member AlfaRomeo Posted January 27, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted January 27, 2005 You all making me scared liao.. hehehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roidan Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 You all making me scared liao.. hehehe that's our purpose you see.... to encourage you to contribute more to the economy Quote Advanced Aquarist (March05) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member scarab Posted January 27, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted January 27, 2005 You all making me scared liao.. hehehe Bro, scared is good. But IKS will inform you when your temp goes whacked right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member andysho Posted January 27, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted January 27, 2005 is it the lower the temp~~ it can more or less help to stop RTN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roidan Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 being informed is one thing... it's the lead time between the single chiller failure and the time when a replacement is set up in place that's critical Quote Advanced Aquarist (March05) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member AlfaRomeo Posted January 27, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted January 27, 2005 Yup, have set it up to alert me if the temp hits 28. Maybe put in a few high powered fans to be turned on when it hits 28 to help with the temp increase while I attempt to solve the problem. But what if I am not at home? need to rush back I guess.. hehehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member scarab Posted January 27, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted January 27, 2005 being informed is one thing... it's the lead time between the single chiller failure and the time when a replacement is set up in place that's critical Well, that's also true. I guess there are no shortcuts then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roidan Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 yeah... why subject oneself to the emotional stress and anxiety of standing in front of his/her tank and using all the fans that he/she can find and blow the tank , and using wrapped ice-dips and yet watching the tank temperature creeping up however slowly by virtue of the hot afternoon/season and critical pumps..... hoping and praying the replacement chiller will be delivered soon or the ice at 7-eleven will not run out... what if the chiller can only be delivered the next day? lose sleep over it and watch the tank overnight? so after this *projected scenario*, i guess all these unwanted emotions can be easily avoided by the additonal loop in the first place join the BUL movement. (Back Up Loop) Quote Advanced Aquarist (March05) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member jd_n Posted January 27, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted January 27, 2005 yeah... why subject oneself to the emotional stress and anxiety of standing in front of his/her tank and using all the fans that he/she can find and blow the tank , and using wrapped ice-dips and yet watching the tank temperature creeping up however slowly by virtue of the hot afternoon/season and critical pumps..... hoping and praying the replacement chiller will be delivered soon or the ice at 7-eleven will not run out... what if the chiller can only be delivered the next day? lose sleep over it and watch the tank overnight? so after this *projected scenario*, i guess all these unwanted emotions can be easily avoided by the additonal loop in the first place join the BUL movement. (Back Up Loop) u guys r gettin obesses and paranoid by the minute Quote There are 2 types of person, those that chose learn n do it rite the first time and those tat chose to learn it the hard way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roidan Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 hahaha..jd... better be paranoid but prepared than devasted when disaster happens right? Quote Advanced Aquarist (March05) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAV-65 Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 May sound paranoid... but I rather be one of those paranoid ones.... I'll join the Double Chiller Owners Group!! Quote People do not plan to fail; Often they just fail to plan... Wat I do to prevent myself from tearing my hair out... My stress remedy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member andysho Posted January 27, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted January 27, 2005 something we are so into reef keeping until it like become our "GOd" or wife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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