Griessingeri Goby Thread;

[35Cents]

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[Ancelot]

wow. Discordipinna genus has alot really interesting species! Love it! Guess they are gonna be the reasons for my return.

How i wish my Red Head is here with me. Then can show you all gobies' lovers!

Anyway glad that i see people growing to love gobies. Trust me you will be more willing to die for them than die for something else. lolx...

[Peter Schmiedel]

Hi @all

I was asked to add my thought to this thread - thx for that Basically all I know or have experienced with the two I keep has been said already.

I added them together and I hardly ever see them. They house in a tank 80x40x40 Centimer and share it with a pair of Signigobius biocellatus, 2x Trimma sp and 4x Trimma cana. Mine do share the same borrow. I could never observe any interaction with the other gobies. I also never sah them eating anything, but as I have them now for 6 month they must find enough food - but I did not see them growing yet.

Rudie Kuiter confirmed by mail that they live very very cryptic and avoid any open light. He thinks that the color pattern of the fins and the moving of the fins is ment to mesmerize the prey.

In general I think they are very interessting fish but should only be keep by real specialist who can give them a dedicated tank and dont worry if they dont see the gobies for weeks - but the price - at least here in Europe- is luckly high enough to avoid miss buying oi beginners.

Cheers from Belgium

Peter

[KingFish]

Hi Peter,

Welcome to the Singapore Reef Club.

Thanks for dropping by, and to the person who invited you over.

So it seems the gressingeri is more suited for low light specie-only tank, at the hands of experienced keepers.

We are also trying to pool our knowledge in an attempt to better understand and perhaps discern some gender specific physical characteristics and/or behavourial pattern. Since you have a pair sharing the same burrow, do you or Rudie have any input on that?

Thanks.

With Regards,

Rumor

[diabolus]

Hi @all

I was asked to add my thought to this thread - thx for that Basically all I know or have experienced with the two I keep has been said already.

I added them together and I hardly ever see them. They house in a tank 80x40x40 Centimer and share it with a pair of Signigobius biocellatus, 2x Trimma sp and 4x Trimma cana. Mine do share the same borrow. I could never observe any interaction with the other gobies. I also never sah them eating anything, but as I have them now for 6 month they must find enough food - but I did not see them growing yet.

Rudie Kuiter confirmed by mail that they live very very cryptic and avoid any open light. He thinks that the color pattern of the fins and the moving of the fins is ment to mesmerize the prey.

In general I think they are very interessting fish but should only be keep by real specialist who can give them a dedicated tank and dont worry if they dont see the gobies for weeks - but the price - at least here in Europe- is luckly high enough to avoid miss buying oi beginners.

Cheers from Belgium

Peter

hi peter,

glad to see you here, responding so fast to my request

I got mine at about 1.5cm and after less than 3 months, can see that its about 2cm now.

it hides for the 1st month or so, but have been showing itself very often lately. BTW, i'm only using a 11w PL for its tank.

hope that we can share our findings or watever knowledge on this wonderful fish together.

[gothia]

hi peter,

glad to see you here, responding so fast to my request

I got mine at about 1.5cm and after less than 3 months, can see that its about 2cm now.

it hides for the 1st month or so, but have been showing itself very often lately. BTW, i'm only using a 11w PL for its tank.

hope that we can share our findings or watever knowledge on this wonderful fish together.

how u measure ah?

anyway , very nice collection!!

[diabolus]

this goby is a bottom dwelling one, it does not actively swim ard, thus when it was still at ML, it was easy to pick up a ruler and just measure him thru the betta box.

his current size is by estimation. i just use the surrounding/corals that he is near to(in this case my 50 cents size ric) and got a rough guage.

[gothia]

this goby is a bottom dwelling one, it does not actively swim ard, thus when it was still at ML, it was easy to pick up a ruler and just measure him thru the betta box.

his current size is by estimation. i just use the surrounding/corals that he is near to(in this case my 50 cents size ric) and got a rough guage.

dun get me wrong..because i see it is very small..so wondering how to measure...

ic..actually it is in a betta box..

very nice fish!

[Terryz_]

Just what is the tank size that you all keep them in... Was thinking of 2ftx1.5ftx1.5ft tank with other eviota, trimma and small gobies... Possible?

[diabolus]

very possible!

i keep mine in a 1ft cube with 2 ###### shrimps and the camel goby.

shawncel keep his in a tank smaller than mine, with a upside down goby(trimma sp.) and a yashia goby/pistol shrimp pair.

35 cents keep his 3 griess in a 1.5 or 2 ft tank.

[Peter Schmiedel]

Hi @alll

thanks for the nice welcome! Is'nt it wonderfull how the web enables all of use the share our thoughts! This is the best grisi thread i ahve ever seen and I will post a link in my german forum

I received another answer from Rudie Kuiter (soon he will start on his goby book :D):

Quote:

I only ever seen them once in their (probably) typical habitat. Depth was about 12 m and lots of small boulders with algae and bryazoa growth on them. I could just grab these with one had whilst the camera in the other. There were several there, at least 4, maybe 6 individuals. To get to see them in the aquarium you may need to provide some small roundish rubble pieces, say 10 cm in diameter, and create overhangs about 25 mm high you can look into. Giving lots of hiding possibilities may actually give you the best chance.

The only other one I’ve seen diving was when using rotenone and one came floating out from amongst boulders about 30 to 40 cm in diameter that were covered by green algae on top. This was in about 15 m depth.

end quote

@35

is there an update on how your 3 are doing? The clip is amazing but shows a rather strong unexpected aggression. Guess that food competition determines the qty /tank we can keep. I can see on the posted pic's that some have the little notch in the dorsal spine. One of mine has the other does not. How is it with yours?

[Terryz_]

very possible!

i keep mine in a 1ft cube with 2 ###### shrimps and the camel goby.

shawncel keep his in a tank smaller than mine, with a upside down goby(trimma sp.) and a yashia goby/pistol shrimp pair.

35 cents keep his 3 griess in a 1.5 or 2 ft tank.

I was thinking whether will i see them anot... lol... because 2x1.5x1.5 seems quite big... lol...

[diabolus]

it couldn't be bigger than henry's tank rite?

and i still can see his 3 griess swimming happily everytime i go there.

[Terryz_]

got huh... why i never see one...

But very difficult to do henry that kind of scaping...

will faint ler... lol....

Anyone willing to post some full frontal tank view...

Thankz..

Terry

[Peter Schmiedel]

and i still can see his 3 griess swimming happily everytime i go there.

How the hell does he do that?? Soemtimes I dont see mine for weeks! Are there pic's from this tank available?

[diabolus]

How the hell does he do that?? Soemtimes I dont see mine for weeks! Are there pic's from this tank available?

peter,

henry is the owner of the LFS that brought in the griessingeri for us.

i will ask him to take a few pics of his tank and post here for you to see.

btw, how much do u guys paid for the griessingeri in Europe? I heard that it cost $150USD in the USA.

[35Cents]

@35

is there an update on how your 3 are doing? The clip is amazing but shows a rather strong unexpected aggression. Guess that food competition determines the qty /tank we can keep. I can see on the posted pic's that some have the little notch in the dorsal spine. One of mine has the other does not. How is it with yours?

Hi Peter, a big welcome to SRC.

Glad to have more griessingeri collectors around.

My griessies are fine... though Charlie (the smallest one... the first is Alpha, the biggest is Bravo... )had gone missing for a week after a minor rescape whereby I throw away a small rock... you can imagine my anxiety lol. Luckily it appeared last week to hunt.

By the notch on the dorsal fin, I assume you are talking about the small spilt on the fin. All 3 of them got it... in fact I think all of the griessingeries got it... just depends on your angle of view and also whether the griess wanted to stretch the fins or not.

FYI, my griessies are appearing almost everyday, usually a few hours before the lights goes off to hunt. I dun really think they are shy of light, but they are very sensitive to movement around them ... especially my presence... thus the only way to photograph them is to sit beside their crib area and wait... I can fully comprehend how difficult and fustrating it is for National Geographic photographers.

[35Cents]

btw, how much do u guys paid for the griessingeri in Europe? I heard that it cost $150USD in the USA.

In UK its £80 - £200 depending on the size, colour and availability. You can imagine my thrill when I return to Singapore... In S$ that's around S$240-S$600!

[Peter Schmiedel]

btw, how much do u guys paid for the griessingeri in Europe? I heard that it cost $150USD in the USA.

Hi,

thanks for the replie and good to know that your trio is fine. I really can imagine how you always looked at the little stone removed

Here the dealer price is about 120.- -150.- EUR - which is about less then the US $, but as I buy my stuff at the wholesalers ...

I thing I have to remove my signigobius biocellatus form the same tank to give them more peace. I did not see my small one since a while and as i had a nightly powercut for 6 hours (lost some unreplaceable fish - own catch from Ascenssion) it could be that I lost it too. Dont really expect it as it is normal for me not to see them regularly. I might have to add that I have currently almost 20 tanks running ... nuts? me ?? No just a bit :D

[Gouldian]

Hi guys,

Just wanted you guys to know that I have finally joined your ranks.

Due to the sudden intrusion of the Alpheus bellulus I have to forgo my order from the last shipment!

When this shipment arrives, I did not rush straight to ML cuz I am still unable to net the PS and plus I am busy preparing for the temporary power cut in my area for some maintenance work to be done by the town council.

Due to some delay during lunch, I reached home later than the power cut and realized that my sump overflowed. I have previously raised the water in my sump higher and forgotten to lower so that it could hold the back flow from the main-tank and pippings. After climbing up to the 12 storeys, I arrived home with a small puddle below my tank.

So instead of just turning on some battery operated air-pumps, sit back and enjoy my tank without lights, I ended mopping and clean all areas near the sump.

Fortunately I was rewarded, due to the flooding, my PS actually dislodges itself from its hiding place and seek refuge in the compartment of my sump easily accessable by net!

After less than 1 min, the PS is safely contained. Without much ado, I called Henry while I proceeded to the car.

4 hours later, I am a happy owner of a pair such lovely fish. Its been nearing 24hrs since and I must say, they are still within sight!

Guys, I am glad that my efforts have paid off! , Looking forward to learning more about such a lovely fish from you guys.

[35Cents]

Welcome to the Griessingeri club dude!

Its a blessing in disguise for you and what a great timing when the shipment came in!

Hope to soon see pics of your lovely pair (hopefully paired!).

[ZeRoC00l]

Just tagging along

Wondering if it's possible to plump a seperate 1.5ft to my current SPS tank and rear 1 -2 of this little fellows?

Or can i just rear them in my 2ft cube SPS??

==> High circulation 2 X M820 + 2 X M1100

==> High light 500W

==> sally light foot, sea cuke, 2 X true pers, abalone, turbos

Is it safe or even possible such tt these little fellows dun become food or get suck into the pumps??

cheers

[35Cents]

Hi zerocool,

As long as your pumps are high up it's fine as they are bottom dwellers. As for the high circulation it's fine too.. my tank's circulation is 1200l/h in a 60l tank.. no problems whatsoever.

They are smart fishes and very agile despite their size.... most important thing is to provide good quality liverocks (no evil hitchhikers) with matured pod population. From your LS list... none post problems to them.

As for which tank to put them into... it's up to personal perference but for me, I prefer to put them in a delicated species tank only.

[Gouldian]

Welcome to the Griessingeri club dude!

Its a blessing in disguise for you and what a great timing when the shipment came in!

Hope to soon see pics of your lovely pair (hopefully paired!).

Hi 35cents,

It sure is a blessing in disguise.

As for photos, I dun think I have the skills and patience like you guys. I can't even take decent photos of my regular fishes in my tank without seeking help from some seniors, not to talk about griess.

I tried to show it to a brother that drop by this afternoon, but to no avail. After he left, I saw them coming into the open again????? This is the unique attributes of griess that interest me - you are not able to see them as a when you like, they are the boss! Another such fish is the Priolepis nocturna.

I guess, some of us just like the "Peek a Boo" effect.

But so far, I have not see any aggression shown by the pair, they are always within 1 - 2 body length from each other.

[Peter Schmiedel]

Nice pic of the Priolepis. You have the "version" with more yellow. I have the black and white ones. I believe it is a location variance, but who knows maybe even diffrent species?

Hope you gave her a nice cave and some sand to dig? My couple always hangs belly up under a cave and she is digging the sand away under the rockwork on one side of the cave.

Her with eggs shineing through her belly:

Him:

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