SRC Member planetg Posted August 29, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted August 29, 2003 Thinking of using those Hager boxes or some other boxes posted by fellow reefers. I remember seeing some ideas and excellent setups b4 the forums crashed. Would it be better cos I'll be running a. 2x250W Iwasakis b. 2x54W T5 Actinic Plus c. H&S Skimmer d. Return Pump e. Circulation Pump f. Calcium Reactor (in future) g. Chiller and i hate all those wires all over the place. I also heard abt problems when it comes to cleaning up equipment. Please comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member ervine Posted August 29, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted August 29, 2003 I thought someone used to help set up these boxes? I would also like to know about it man... I quite tired of all the wires going everywhere.. but risky to try considering all the AC going in.. I got electric shocked TWICE doing my DIY auto-top up man... bleah... painful stuff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponsor dr evil Posted August 30, 2003 Sponsor Share Posted August 30, 2003 i also want to fix up one for my MH.....1box and 2 timers..... got any electricians here? or diagram for us to follow......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member mv3i Posted August 31, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted August 31, 2003 these might help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruel Posted August 31, 2003 Share Posted August 31, 2003 hi mv3i, can you please let me know where I can buy the hager timer? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member mv3i Posted August 31, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted August 31, 2003 can get at SLT or Kelantan lane ... Ask around the shops .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruel Posted August 31, 2003 Share Posted August 31, 2003 hi mv3i... many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member reeflobang Posted August 31, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted August 31, 2003 They make the wirings neater but things kept me back: 1. Cost - the timers alone will be at least S$35 each and the on/off switches will be cheaper but not sure of the price. 2. Was told by one shop in SLT that these slim and nice models don't last and the bulkier ones by the same makers are better. But these do not fit nicely into the electrical boxes.... FYI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member mv3i Posted August 31, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted August 31, 2003 They make the wirings neater but things kept me back: 1. Cost - the timers alone will be at least S$35 each and the on/off switches will be cheaper but not sure of the price. 2. Was told by one shop in SLT that these slim and nice models don't last and the bulkier ones by the same makers are better. But these do not fit nicely into the electrical boxes.... FYI. The end user will have to decide then .... I choose to use it ...... Someone else also using this ... maybe he can comment .... ( Bro , De........ ???? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member reeff Posted August 31, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted August 31, 2003 the timers are very sensitive to heat and will not work properly if they are placed too close to a heat source (eg. chiller) or in a poorly ventilated area. That's what happened in my case. Have to relocate the timer box....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member dersuz Posted September 1, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted September 1, 2003 There are actually 4 type of timers under this analog catergory (hager brand). 1) Model EH010 - single module w/o auto timing, so when power failure have to reset the timing. Cheapest of all ($33-$35) 2) Model EH011 - single module with auto timing. ($43-45) 3) Model EH110 - three module w/o auto timing. 4) Model EH111 - three module with auto timing. But for sure using this timers will reduce the number of power points needed and also prevent any loose connection of your equipment when plug to those normal timer. The three module takes up quite a lot of space in the control box and the price is around $60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member dersuz Posted September 1, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted September 1, 2003 the timers are very sensitive to heat and will not work properly if they are placed too close to a heat source (eg. chiller) or in a poorly ventilated area. That's what happened in my case. Have to relocate the timer box....... Has found the solution to the above problem, all timers under high load should be protected by a contactor to do the switching job to prevent such problem and also the life span especially the single module type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member planetg Posted September 1, 2003 Author SRC Member Share Posted September 1, 2003 hi deruz, thanx for your input. have you got pics of your electrical setup? would love to take a look. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member dersuz Posted September 1, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted September 1, 2003 Here the pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member dersuz Posted September 1, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted September 1, 2003 The internal wiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 neat work, dersuz Where did you buy the box (which shop in SLT) and how much? Does it come with the cable connector pole? Do you cut a rectangular hole on the surface of the box? I seriously wanted to build one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member dersuz Posted September 2, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted September 2, 2003 Hi Crab, You can get it in most electrical shop in SLT/Kelantan lane. The one I'm using is a Hagar 8way box. They all comes with a rectangle opening for your MCB/timer, 1 earth bar and 1 neutral bar. The price vary in many places, but should not exceed $36. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member mv3i Posted September 2, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted September 2, 2003 thats's the new mushie u got ... izit ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member dersuz Posted September 2, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted September 2, 2003 My favourite mushie, with me for almost 1 yr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Supporter Joe_P Posted September 2, 2003 SRC Supporter Share Posted September 2, 2003 Hi Dersuz How does the EH 110 or 111 looks like??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member mv3i Posted September 2, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted September 2, 2003 Hi Dersuz How does the EH 110 or 111 looks like??? the one that dersuz have is 111 ... if i'm not wrong the 110 is the same except it does not have the auto timing function ( hence cheaper ! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Supporter Joe_P Posted September 2, 2003 SRC Supporter Share Posted September 2, 2003 the one that dersuz have is 111 ... if i'm not wrong the 110 is the same except it does not have the auto timing function ( hence cheaper ! ) Yup...but how does it look like??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member ervine Posted September 2, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted September 2, 2003 30+ including the timers and switches?? Looks pretty good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member mv3i Posted September 2, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted September 2, 2003 30+ including the timers and switches?? Looks pretty good... bro , 30+ is for the timer ( ALONE ) without the auto timing ... so u do the maths .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member mv3i Posted September 2, 2003 SRC Member Share Posted September 2, 2003 There are actually 4 type of timers under this analog catergory (hager brand). 1) Model EH010 - single module w/o auto timing, so when power failure have to reset the timing. Cheapest of all ($33-$35) 2) Model EH011 - single module with auto timing. ($43-45) 3) Model EH110 - three module w/o auto timing. 4) Model EH111 - three module with auto timing. But for sure using this timers will reduce the number of power points needed and also prevent any loose connection of your equipment when plug to those normal timer. The three module takes up quite a lot of space in the control box and the price is around $60. the timers are very sensitive to heat and will not work properly if they are placed too close to a heat source (eg. chiller) or in a poorly ventilated area. That's what happened in my case. Have to relocate the timer box....... Most of the timer, especially the single module are very sensitive to high load when the ambient temperature is high. So when use with 2 x 250w MH or higher, it should be place to somewhere with ambient temperature below 28degree. Alternative, is to use the 3 module type. Will show some pic tonight. bro , think i gotten my timer less than 40 .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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